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Randy
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 Posted: 10/11/13 6:26 pm ::: |
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| The Bleacher Report draft is interesting adn some picks make. Tulse for x. But they have the Dream and Mystics order backwards. Lowers your confidence in their picks.
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| Posted: 10/11/13 7:09 pm ::: |
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| Maggie Lucas could last as a three-point specialist, kind of like Erin Thorn. But that's just about her ceiling, which would make me uneasy about taking her in the first round.
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| Posted: 10/11/13 7:23 pm ::: |
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Things will probably change throughout the season, but at this point I think it is more likely that one of the top 4 picks will be traded than one of them being someone other than Ogwumike, Sims, Gray and Thomas. And if that's the case, Dolson is a lock at 5 as she is a perfect fit for Indiana.
Also, Jordan Hooper is the 2nd best SF in the draft, but I feel like some people are overlooking her as a high draft pick. My guess is she'll be taken around 8-10.
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| Posted: 10/11/13 7:31 pm ::: |
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| When does the college season start?
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| Posted: 10/11/13 7:35 pm ::: |
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| I love Shoni, but I see Chicago taking Howard or Walker if they are available. |
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What's your beef with Walker? Just wondering
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| Posted: 10/11/13 7:35 pm ::: |
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| Maggie Lucas could last as a three-point specialist, kind of like Erin Thorn. But that's just about her ceiling, which would make me uneasy about taking her in the first round. |
Lucas is not Erin Thorn. She is better off the bounce than just a spot up shooter. She may need to get stronger though.
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| Posted: 10/11/13 7:43 pm ::: |
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| I love Shoni, but I see Chicago taking Howard or Walker if they are available. |
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What's your beef with Walker? Just wondering |
She's not very good?_________________
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| Posted: 10/11/13 8:12 pm ::: |
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| I love Shoni, but I see Chicago taking Howard or Walker if they are available. |
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What's your beef with Walker? Just wondering |
She's not very good? |
She's better offensively than Warley and a better defender than Campbell. I'd take Howard though if she's available.
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| Posted: 10/11/13 8:26 pm ::: |
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| She's better offensively than Warley and a better defender than Campbell. |
She's a better defender than Campbell, I'll give you that. But she has no offensive game at all. She looks like Victoria Dunlap, but Dunlap could actually score in college.
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| I'd take Howard though if she's available. |
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| Posted: 10/11/13 11:05 pm ::: |
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I don't hate the idea of Dolson on the Liberty, I think her and Bone could compliment each other in the front court. But if she does end up on the Liberty I hop it is the result of a trade down situation. If we get #1 it would be risky but I would definitely consider Zealous and (Dolson) #5 for the Our pick.
A lot of people are saying they see NY taking a PG but I think Laimbeer will be true to his work, and Cappie will be the Liberty's starting point guard for better or worse, with (hopefully) a healthy Carson at the 2. If he is looking for a point i think he's more likely to use our second round pick #14 to draft a back up point, and use our lottery pick on Thomas or Ogwumike. I will be keeping my eye on Sims and Gray this season just in case. And even though I'm a proponet of trading her, I still think (even with all the writing that is on the wall) that Mitchell could hold onto the 11th spot as a back point and shooter. Williams needs to come off the bench (if she is still on the team at all) as a defensive stopper, sort of our poor mans Herrington.
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| Posted: 10/12/13 11:18 am ::: |
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Apparently the fact that Gennifer Brandon is out indefinitely with a reoccurence of the same stress fracture that cost her a full season has escaped notice.
There's no timetable for her return ...
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| Posted: 10/12/13 3:51 pm ::: |
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Apparently the fact that Gennifer Brandon is out indefinitely with a reoccurence of the same stress fracture that cost her a full season has escaped notice.
There's no timetable for her return ... |
At the same time, Cal hasn't announced that she will miss this season. I mean, it's one thing to have an injury and to retire like Toni Kokenis or Aly Beebee--but by all indications, Brandon is attempting to come back and be ready in time for her Senior Year. I think that if Cal says she'll be ready, she'll be ready to play. There's no reason to not include her in discussions about the draft or even about Cal's prospects this season until we know definitively that she will be out.
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| Posted: 10/12/13 4:54 pm ::: |
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| They did announce that Brandon was out indefinitely, and there was no timetable for her return.
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| Posted: 10/12/13 7:23 pm ::: |
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| She's better offensively than Warley and a better defender than Campbell. |
She's a better defender than Campbell, I'll give you that. But she has no offensive game at all. She looks like Victoria Dunlap, but Dunlap could actually score in college.
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I think Dunlap was better at both ends (and could jump out of the gym), at least from what I have seen of Walker.
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| Posted: 10/12/13 8:16 pm ::: |
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| bullsky wrote: |
| She's better offensively than Warley and a better defender than Campbell. |
She's a better defender than Campbell, I'll give you that. But she has no offensive game at all. She looks like Victoria Dunlap, but Dunlap could actually score in college.
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I think Dunlap was better at both ends (and could jump out of the gym), at least from what I have seen of Walker. |
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| Posted: 10/13/13 12:47 am ::: |
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| bullsky wrote: |
| She's better offensively than Warley and a better defender than Campbell. |
She's a better defender than Campbell, I'll give you that. But she has no offensive game at all. She looks like Victoria Dunlap, but Dunlap could actually score in college.
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I think Dunlap was better at both ends (and could jump out of the gym), at least from what I have seen of Walker. |
Agreed, which makes Walker look even worse. |
I view Walker as a useful college player on a successful, high profile team -- sort of like Brooklyn Pope and Destiny Williams were last year for Baylor. However, I'm not seeing a lot of pro potential. If you're going to impress as an undersized post, you've got to shine -- not just be a workman-like role player. Walker might get drafted, buy I don't think she'll go high unless something changes drastically in her senior year.
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| Posted: 10/13/13 3:02 am ::: |
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Can't see too many teams taking a second glance while she's pulling down < 5 rebounds per game.
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| Posted: 10/13/13 3:19 am ::: |
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There were a few players on that Aussie under-19 Worlds team earlier this year that might at least draw a glance from WNBA teams.
Bear in mind that they might tweak the eligibility rules yet again - we don't know for sure who'll be eligible for the 2014 draft from the international pool yet. Mijovic, Talbot, Samuels and Wilson all would be under the expired CBA, though. |
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| Posted: 10/13/13 9:25 am ::: |
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Can't see too many teams taking a second glance while she's pulling down < 5 rebounds per game. |
Aw, Luuuc, you're always so hard on your Aussie girls. Mijovic averages less than 17 mpg. She's a kid who's being broken-in slowly. I don't claim to be any kind of expert, since I've only seen her once. However, in the U19 Bronze Medal game, Mijovic outplayed Astou Ndour who is supposed to be 1st Round material. Teams want to spread the floor these days, so a 6-6 player who can hit 3-pointers is worth a look. The fact that she hangs out on the perimeter partly explains the low rebound total (see EDD). Mijovic seems to move OK -- not fast, but not a big stiff either. However, she's really skinny (as was Ndour and a lot of the U19 players). For what it's worth, I thought Mijovic at 19 looked better than 6-7 Iowa State senior Anna Prins, who was drafted by CT in the 2nd round.
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| Posted: 10/13/13 4:05 pm ::: |
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Can't see too many teams taking a second glance while she's pulling down < 5 rebounds per game. |
but returning her best PPG ever...... |
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| Posted: 10/13/13 6:41 pm ::: |
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Can't see too many teams taking a second glance while she's pulling down < 5 rebounds per game. |
Aw, Luuuc, you're always so hard on your Aussie girls. Mijovic averages less than 17 mpg. |
Last season, yes. Last season she was on a stacked Rangers team, so didn't get much time.
This year she is 79:42 in 3 games, which is 26.6 mpg, and 4.3 boards.
Having said that, yes, she is of course very young and I'm in no way writing her off, so I didn't mean for my post to come off too negative.
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| She's a kid who's being broken-in slowly. I don't claim to be any kind of expert, since I've only seen her once. However, in the U19 Bronze Medal game, Mijovic outplayed Astou Ndour who is supposed to be 1st Round material. Teams want to spread the floor these days, so a 6-6 player who can hit 3-pointers is worth a look. The fact that she hangs out on the perimeter partly explains the low rebound total (see EDD). Mijovic seems to move OK -- not fast, but not a big stiff either. However, she's really skinny (as was Ndour and a lot of the U19 players). For what it's worth, I thought Mijovic at 19 looked better than 6-7 Iowa State senior Anna Prins, who was drafted by CT in the 2nd round. |
She has potential for sure, and is one of the best young bigs in Australia. I guess my thing with her is wondering what type of role she will end up playing. Right now she is tall, slightly built, and has a penchant for outside shooting. I'm not sure how that is going to translate to the top levels of the game.
Rachael Sporn of course took skinniness to a whole other level for posts and was still a hell of a player, including being a good rebounder. So it's possible. Rachael was a fierce competitor though. Not everyone has that in them.
This season Carley will get plenty of opportunity for Canberra playing alongside Abby Bishop, so I'll be interested to see what she does with it.
I watched her here against the Waves on Friday night. We're the weakest team in the league and on top of that were missing our starting centre, and I wasn't too impressed with Carley's performance. Again, I don't want to sound too negative. It was just one game, in only the 2nd game of the season. But I'm also saying that any WNBA talk seems premature to me at this point.
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| Posted: 10/14/13 8:38 am ::: |
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| Where is Tolo playing this season?
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She has potential for sure, and is one of the best young bigs in Australia. I guess my thing with her is wondering what type of role she will end up playing. Right now she is tall, slightly built, and has a penchant for outside shooting. I'm not sure how that is going to translate to the top levels of the game.
Rachael Sporn of course took skinniness to a whole other level for posts and was still a hell of a player, including being a good rebounder. So it's possible. Rachael was a fierce competitor though. Not everyone has that in them.
This season Carley will get plenty of opportunity for Canberra playing alongside Abby Bishop, so I'll be interested to see what she does with it.
I watched her here against the Waves on Friday night. We're the weakest team in the league and on top of that were missing our starting centre, and I wasn't too impressed with Carley's performance. Again, I don't want to sound too negative. It was just one game, in only the 2nd game of the season. But I'm also saying that any WNBA talk seems premature to me at this point. |
I agree with you that Mijovic is a long way from being ready for the WNBA. However, assuming that the next CBA is similar to the currrent one, foreign players are eligible for the draft at 20 -- ready or not. Given the choice between taking an American college senior that I'm not crazy about versus a foreign player who is 20 and can be left overseas to develop, I think the latter is a pretty good option. The draft in general is a roll of the dice, and those low 2nd round picks and 3rd rounders are even more iffy. Personally, I think these picks are great for a low risk gamble on players with potentially high ceilings. A 6-6 player who can shoot will pull a post defender out to the perimeter, thereby opening driving lanes for her teammates. If they try to guard her with someone smaller, then she should be able to shoot over the defender. Again, I've only seen Mijovic once, so for all I know she had a career game. I'm only suggesting that she's worth consideration as a lower round selection.
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Carson can move to the 3. If Laimbeer insists on starting Cappie and Carson, then Gray can still play a lot of minutes backing up both positions.