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The FIG has released the list of the gymnast who will compete in London.
Argentina
Federico Molinari
Armenia
Arthur Davtyan
Australia
Joshua Jefferis
Austria
Fabian Leimlehner
Azerbaijan
Shakir Shikhaliyev
Bangladesh
Quazi Syque Caesar
Belgium
Jimmy Verbaeys
Belarus
Dzmitry Kaspiarovich
Brazil
Diego Hypolito
Arthur Nabarrete Zanetti
Sergio Sasaki Junior
Bulgaria
Jordan Jovtchev
Canada
Nathan Gafuik
Chile
Enrique Tomas Gonzalez Sepulveda
China
Chen Yibing
Feng Zhe
Teng Haibin
Zhang Chenglong
Zou Kai
Colombia
Jorge Hugo Giraldo Lopez
Croatia
Filip Ude
Czech Republic
Martin Konecny
Egypt
Mohamed Sherif
Spain
Isaac Botella Perez
Javier Gomez Fuertes
Fabian Gonzalez
Ruben Lopez
Sergio Munoz
France
Pierre Yves Beny
Yann Cucherat
Gael da Silva
Hamilton Sabot
Cyril Tommasone
Great Britain
Sam Oldham
Daniel Purvis
Louis Smith
Kristian Thomas
Max Whitlock
Germany
Philipp Boy
Fabian Hambuchen
Sebastian Krimmer
Marcel Nguyen
Andreas Toba
Greece
Vlasios Maras
Vasileios Tsolakidis
Hong Kong
Wai Hung Shek
Hungry
Krisztian Berki
vid Hidvegi
Ireland
Kieran Behan
Israel
Felix Aronovich
Alexander Shatilov
Italy
Matteo Angioletti
Alberto Busnari
Matteo Morandi
Paolo Ottavi
Enrico Pozzo
Japan
Ryohei Kato
Kazuhito Tanaka
Yusuke Tanaka
Kohei Uchimura
Koji Yamamuro
Kazakhstan
stepan Gorbachev
Korea
Jihoon Kim
Seungil Kim
Soo Myun Kim
Hee Hoon Kim
Hak Seon Yang
Latvia
Dmitrijs Trefilovs
Lithuania
Rokas Guscinas
Mexico
Daniel Corral Barron
Netherlands
Epke Zonderland
Poland
Roman Kulesza
Portugal
Manuel Almeida Campos
Puerto Rico
Tommy Ramos
Romania
Cristian Ioan Bataga
Marius Daniel Berbecar
Ovidiu Buidoso
Vlad Bogdan Cotuna
Flavius Koczi
Russia
Denis Ablyazin
Aleksanr Balandin
David Belyavskiy
Emin Garibov
Igor Pakhomenko
Switzerland
Claudio Capelli
Slovakia
Samuel Piasecky
Tunisia
Wajdi Bouallegue
Ukraine
Mykola Kuksenkov
Vitalii Nakonechnyi
Igor Radivilov
Oleg Stepko
Oleg Verniaiev
United States
Jacob Dalton
Jonathan Horton
Danell Leyva
Samuel Mikulak
John Orozco
Vietnam
Phuoc Hung
http://www.fig-gymnastics.com/vsite/vcontent/content/transnews/0,10869,5187-187975-19728-49291-316937-20935-5233-layout210-205197-news-item,00.html
http://www.fig-docs.com/Media/London/LON%202012%20OG%20participants%20MAG%20for%20web%20new.pdf
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| Posted: 07/25/12 12:26 am ::: |
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Qualifications starts on Saturday July 28. (times posted are Pacific time)
2:55am Subdivision 1 (event listed in where each/team will start)
Mixed Group 3: Floor
Korea: Pommel Horse
Great Britain: Still Rings
China: Vault
France: Parallel Bars
Mixed Group 4: High Bar
7:25am Subdivision 2 (event listed in where each/team will start)
Italy: Floor
USA: Pommel Horse
Mixed Group 6: Still Rings
Mixed Group 5: Vault
Mixed Group 1: Parallel Bars
Japan: High Bar
11:55am Subdivision 3 (event listed in where each/team will start)
Spain: Floor
Ukraine: Pommel Horse
Romania: Still Rings
Germany: Vault
Mixed Group 2: Parallel Bars
Russia: High Bar
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| Posted: 07/28/12 5:28 am ::: |
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| The pink and red colour scheme for the arena is ungodly ugly. Kinda glad I could never get tickets for the gymnastics sessions I wanted - might've ended up blind. |
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Subdivision has been completed, the teams standings and individual standings are below, top 5 for all around and individual events will be listed for each. I'm not sure how I should do this, I don't want to spoil the results for anyone, so I will post them in white and for those interest they can highlight them. If people would prefer not having to highlight I can post in the default color as well.
Team:
1. Great Britain 272.420
2. China 269.985
3. France 265.759
4. Korea 255.327
All Around:
1. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 90.256
2. Daniel Purvis, Great Britain 89.199
3. Cyril Tommasone, France 88.698
4. Claudio Capelli, Switzerland 87.598
5. Soo Myun Kim, Korea 86.331
Floor:
1. Zou Kai, China 15.833
2. Gael da Silva, France 15.400
3. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 15.366
4. Max Whitlock, Great Britain 15.266
5. Daniel Purvis, Great Britain 15.200
Pommel Horse:
1. Louis Smith, Great Britain 15.800
2. Cyril Tommasone, France 15.333
3. Max Whitlock, Great Britain 14.900
4. Chen Yibing, China 14.466
5. Dmitrijs Trefilovs, Lativia 14.233
Still Rings:
1. Chen Yibing, China 15.858
2. Tommy Ramos, Puerto Rico 15.500
3. Federico Molinari, Argentina 15.333
4. Daniel Purvis, Great Britain 15.033
5. Feng Zhe, China 14.866
Vault:
1. Hak Seon Yang, Korea 16.333
2. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 15.983
3. Mohamed Sherif Elsaharty, Egypt 15.483
5. Soo Myun Kim, Korea 14.412
Parallel Bars:
1. Feng Zhe, China 15.633
2. Hamilton Sabot, France 15.366
2. Zhang Chenglong, China 15.366
4. Samuel Piasecky, Slovakia 15.358
5. Epke Zonderland, Netherlands 15.133
High Bar:
1. Epke Zonderland, Netherlands 15.966
2. Zhang Chenglong, China 15.933
3. Zou Kai, China 15.533
4. Jihoon Kim, Korea 15.500
5. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 15.366
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Now that is the way to kick off an Olympics!
This is one of the sports where the prospect of a home Olympics has really given it a shot in the arm over here. We've gone from barely mediocre on a European level to a legitimate contending team in global events. Outstanding. |
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Subdivision 2 has been completed, the teams standings and individual standings, combined subdivisions 1 and 2 are listed below, top 8 for all around and individual events will be listed for each. I'm not sure how I should do this, I don't want to spoil the results for anyone, so I will post them in white and for those interest they can highlight them. If people would prefer not having to highlight I can post in the default color as well.
Team:
1. USA 275.342
2. Great Britain 272.420
3. Japan 270.503
4. China 269.985
5. France 265.759
6. Italy 262.085
7. Korea 255.327
All Around:
1. Danell Leyva, USA 91.265
2. John Orozco, USA 90.597
3. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 90.256
4. Kohei Uchimura, Japan 89.764
5. Daniel Purvis, Great Britain 89.199
6. Sergio Sasaki Junior, Brazil 89.132
7. Alexander shatilov, Israel 89.032
8. Cyril Tommasone, France 88.698
Floor:
1. Zou Kai, China 15.833
2. Kohei Uchimura, Japan 15.766
3. Alexander Shatilov, Israel 15.633
3. Jake Dalton, USA 15.633
5. Tomas Gonzalez, Chile 15.533
6. Ryohei Kato, Japan 15.433
7. Gael da Silva, France 15.400
8. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 15.366
Pommel Horse:
1. Louis Smith, Great Britain 15.800
2. Cyril Tommasone, France 15.333
3. Vid Hidvegi, Hungary 15.100
4. Alberto Busnari, Italy 15.058
5. Krisztian Berki, Hungary 15.033
6. Max Whitlock, Great Britain 14.900
7. Danell Leyva, USA 14.866
8. John Orozco, USA 14.766
Still Rings:
1. Chen Yibing, China 15.858
2. Matteo Morandi, Italy 15.766
3. Arthur Nabarrete Zanetti, Brazil 15.616
4. Tommy Ramos, Puerto Rico 15.500
5. Federico Molinari, Argentina 15.333
6. Jonathan Horton, USA 15.166
7. Kazuhito Tanaka, Japan 15.100
7. Jake Dalton, USA 15.100
Vault:
1. Hak Seon Yang, Korea 16.333
2. Tomas Gonzalez, Chile 16.149
3. Sam Mikulak, USA 16.083
4. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 15.983
5. Matteo Angioletti, Italy 15.483
6. Mohamed Sherif Elsaharty, Egypt 15.483
7. Wai Hung Shek, Hong Kong 15.466
8. Jake Dalton, USA 15.333
Parallel Bars:
1. Yusuke Tanaka, Japan 15.866
2. Kazuhito Tanaka, Japan 15.725
3. Feng Zhe, China 15.633
4. Kohei Uchimura, Japan 15.533
6. Vasileios Tsolakidis, Greece 15.466
7. Hamilton Sabot, France 15.366
7. Zhang Chenglong, China 15.366
High Bar:
1. Epke Zonderland, Netherlands 15.966
2. Zhang Chenglong, China 15.933
3. Denell Leyva, USA 15.866
4. Jonathan Horton, USA 15.566
5. Zou Kai, China 15.533
6. Jihoon Kim, Korea 15.500
7. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 15.366
8. John Orozco, USA 15.266
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***Spoiler Alert, results of all prelims are listed below***
Subdivision 3 has been completed, the teams standings and individual standings. The top 8 teams advance to the finals, top 24 for all around and and top 8 for individual events, for individual events the 2 per country rule is in effect, so the standings below will reflect that, also substitutions can be made (a gymnast who has also qualified in the top 8 can be substituted for a teammate who finished higher, so the standings listed below may not be the exact line-up for all around and event finals.
Team:
1. USA 275.342
2. Russia 272.595
3. Great Britain 272.420
4. Germany 270.888
5. Japan 270.503
6. China 269.985
7. Ukraine 269.810
8. France 265.759
All Around:
1. Danell Leyva, USA 91.265
2. David Belyavskiy, Russia 90.832
3. Fabian Hambuechen, Germany 90.765
4. John Orozco, USA 90.597
5. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 90.256
6. Mykola Kuksenkov, Ukraine 89.931
7. Marcel Nguyen, Germany 89.833
8. Emin Garibov, Russia 89.798
9. Kohei Uchimura, Japan 89.764
10. Daniel Purvis, Great Britain 89.199
11. Sergio Sasaki Junior, Brazil 89.132
12. Alexander shatilov, Israel 89.032
13. Oleg Verniaiev, Ukraine 88.964
14. Cyril Tommasone, France 88.698
15. Fabian Gonzalez, Spain 88.365
16. Javier Gomez Fuertes, Spain 88.123
17. Philipp Boy, Germany 87.698 (didn't qualify, 3rd German gymnast)
18. Koji Yamamuro, Japan 87.632
19. Claudio Capelli, Switzerland 87.598
20. Oleg Stepko, Ukraine 87.047 (didn't qualify, 3rd Ukrainian gymnast)
21. Enrico Pozzo, Italy 86.898
22. Kazuhito Tanaka, Japan 86.841 (didn't qualify, 3rd Japanese gymnast)
23. Soo Myun Kim, Korea 86.331
24. Paolo Ottavi, Italy 86.331
25. Flavius Koczi, Romania 85.865
26. Sergio Munoz, Spain 85.665 (didn't qualify, 3rd Spanish gymnast)
27. Joshua Jefferis, Australia 85.598
28. Roman Kulesza, Poland 84.698
Floor:
1. Zou Kai, China 15.833
2. Kohei Uchimura, Japan 15.766
3. Flavius Koczi, Romania 15.666
4. Alexander Shatilov, Israel 15.633
4. Jake Dalton, USA 15.633
6. Tomas Gonzalez, Chile 15.533
6. Ryohei Kato, Japan 15.433
7. Marcel Nguyen, Germany 15.433
8. Denis Ablyazin, Russia 15.433
Pommel Horse:
1. Louis Smith, Great Britain 15.800
2. Cyril Tommasone, France 15.333
3. Vid Hidvegi, Hungary 15.100
4. Alberto Busnari, Italy 15.058
5. Krisztian Berki, Hungary 15.033
6. Vitalii Nakonechnyi, Ukraine 14.933
7. David Belyaskiy, Russia 14.900
8. Max Whitlock, Great Britain 14.900
Still Rings:
1. Chen Yibing, China 15.858
2. Matteo Morandi, Italy 15.766
3. Aleksandr Balandin, Russia 15.666
4. Arthur Nabarrete Zanetti, Brazil 15.616
5. Denis Ablyazin, Russia 15.500
6. Tommy Ramos, Puerto Rico 15.500
7. Federico Molinari, Argentina 15.333
8. Jordan Jotchev, Bulgaria 15.308
Vault:
1. Denis Ablyazin, Russia 16.366
2. Hak Seon Yang, Korea 16.333
3. Tomas Gonzalez, Chile 16.149
4. Sam Mikulak, USA 16.083
5. Kristian Thomas, Great Britain 15.983
6. Flavius Koczi, Romania 15.949
7. Isaac Botella Perez, Spain 15.833
8. Igor Radivilov, Ukraine 15.799
Parallel Bars:
1. Yusuke Tanaka, Japan 15.866
2. Kazuhito Tanaka, Japan 15.725
3. Feng Zhe, China 15.633
4. Emin Garibov, Russia 15.600
5. Kohei Uchimura, Japan 15.533 (didn't qualify, 3rd Japanese gymnast)
6. Marcel Nguyen, Germany 15.525
7. Vasileios Tsolakidis, Greece 15.466
8. Daniel Corral Barron, Mexico 15.433
9. Hamilton Sabot, France 15.366
9. Zhang Chenglong, China 15.366
High Bar:
1. Epke Zonderland, Netherlands 15.966
2. Zhang Chenglong, China 15.933
3. Denell Leyva, USA 15.866
4. Fabian Hambuechen, Germany 15.633
5. Jonathan Horton, USA 15.566
6. Emin Garibov, Russia 15.566
7. Zou Kai, China 15.533
8. Jihoon Kim, Korea 15.500
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Overall this wasn't the best prelims round, Japan and China made a lot uncharacteristic mistakes, both advance to finals, but they are in 5th and 6th place. The good thing for them is the scores don't carry over, the possible bad news is they can't drop any scores so if even one person is having a bad day and he is on multiple events it could be bad for the team score. I don't expect either team to struggle though, so it should be an exciting team finals. The USA, Russia and Great Britain had unbelievable meets, if they can duplicate it, they can all fight for a medal and they should be ready to capitalize on any mistakes by the Japanese or Chinese. Germany is another team that could battle for a medal, but one of their key gymnasts Philipp Boy injured his ankle on vault and competed the rest of the meet, but it was noticeable he was bothered by it, hopefully a day of rest and he will be back to full strength, if not Germany may have some difficult fighting for a medal.
I'm excited to see how it turns out, it seems the "smaller" countries have come out ready to fight while the "power" countries have fallen back on their heels, it will be interesting to see which Chinese and Japanese teams come out on Monday as well as how the other countries come in knowing they beat Japan and China in prelims.
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*Spoiler*
Yay!
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***Spoiler Alert, results of team finals are listed below***
The Final men's standings are listed below
Team:
1. China 275.997
2. Japan 271.952
3. Great Britain 271.711
4. Ukraine 271.526
5. USA 269.952
6. Russia 269.603
7. Germany 268.019
8. France 265.441
Initially Great Britain was announced as silver medalist and Ukraine as bronze medalist and Japan in 4th, but Japan had made an inquiry about the score of Kohei Uchimura, after reviewing his pommel horse routine, his score was changed, moving Japan into 2nd, Great Britain to 3rd and Ukraine to 4th. I'm not exactly sure, but based on what they showed it looked like they were reviewing his dismount, perhaps they didn't give him credit for the dismount he performed.
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***Spoiler Alert, results of team finals are listed below***
The Final men's standings are listed below
Team:
1. China 275.997
2. Japan 271.952
3. Great Britain 271.711
4. Ukraine 271.526
5. USA 269.952
6. Russia 269.603
7. Germany 268.019
8. France 265.441
Initially Great Britain was announced as silver medalist and Ukraine as bronze medalist and Japan in 4th, but Japan had made an inquiry about the score of Kohei Uchimura, after reviewing his pommel horse routine, his score was changed, moving Japan into 2nd, Great Britain to 3rd and Ukraine to 4th. I'm not exactly sure, but based on what they showed it looked like they were reviewing his dismount, perhaps they didn't give him credit for the dismount he performed. |
Just saw this on TV. Typical Olympic gymnastics BS.  Uchimura did NOT get up to a handstand on the dismount. And if that's all it takes to get credit for a skill, I'll be in Brazil in 2016!  |
I haven't watched the tv version, could you tell me what the said about it?
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| GEF34 wrote: |
***Spoiler Alert, results of team finals are listed below***
The Final men's standings are listed below
Team:
1. China 275.997
2. Japan 271.952
3. Great Britain 271.711
4. Ukraine 271.526
5. USA 269.952
6. Russia 269.603
7. Germany 268.019
8. France 265.441
Initially Great Britain was announced as silver medalist and Ukraine as bronze medalist and Japan in 4th, but Japan had made an inquiry about the score of Kohei Uchimura, after reviewing his pommel horse routine, his score was changed, moving Japan into 2nd, Great Britain to 3rd and Ukraine to 4th. I'm not exactly sure, but based on what they showed it looked like they were reviewing his dismount, perhaps they didn't give him credit for the dismount he performed. |
Just saw this on TV. Typical Olympic gymnastics BS. Uchimura did NOT get up to a handstand on the dismount. And if that's all it takes to get credit for a skill, I'll be in Brazil in 2016! |
I haven't watched the tv version, could you tell me what the said about it? |
Not much really. Just said that on his first look, it looked good, but then on the replay it didn't. To me, it wasn't even close. He never got his arms extended and his legs were all over the place.
Crazy thing was, when Japan approached the FIG about the protest, the coach had money in his hand. Was explained that that's how it's done now. If they win the protest, they get the money back. Kind of gave me a bad feeling about it from the beginning.
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| The Japan athlete fell out of his dismount...his score should not have been changed. The decision was wrong IMO.
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And the USA team self-destructed...unbelievable. |
I disagree completely, because for one it wasn't everyone on the team, it was mainly one person, John Orozco who didn't start out the meet well, struggling on pommel horse and vault, but I think the team really came together, they moved up from 8th to 5th and ended with 2 of their best events, finishing 3rd behind China and Japan in both parallel bars and high bar. This team really came together and pulled out what looked like an 8th place finish for most of the competition and moved up to 5th.
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And the USA team self-destructed...unbelievable. |
I disagree completely, because for one it wasn't everyone on the team, it was mainly one person, John Orozco who didn't start out the meet well, struggling on pommel horse and vault, but I think the team really came together, they moved up from 8th to 5th and ended with 2 of their best events, finishing 3rd behind China and Japan in both parallel bars and high bar. This team really came together and pulled out what looked like an 8th place finish for most of the competition and moved up to 5th. |
OK, I must have missed more than I thought I had. Seemed like everytime I saw them, they were falling off of something. I saw 4-5 falls in the brief time I watched.
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| The Japan athlete fell out of his dismount...his score should not have been changed. The decision was wrong IMO. |
I'm a bit interested in what the judging actually was, because the dismount he did perform is an actual dismount in the code of points, but he would have been hit hard in form deductions, the judges can't judge him based on what dismount he was suppose to do, they can only judge based on what he did do, so I wonder if initially they didn't give him credit for a dismount, or took deductions on a dismount he was supposed to do than what he did, or if the coaches felt he should have been given credit for the dismount he was suppose to do and deducted from there as opposed to given credit for a lower degree dismount.
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Not much really. Just said that on his first look, it looked good, but then on the replay it didn't. To me, it wasn't even close. He never got his arms extended and his legs were all over the place.
Crazy thing was, when Japan approached the FIG about the protest, the coach had money in his hand. Was explained that that's how it's done now. If they win the protest, they get the money back. Kind of gave me a bad feeling about it from the beginning. |
Thanks, as I mentioned above I'm interested in the judging and what the issue was, because there are a lot of deductions that can be made as well as whether or not he should be given credit for something as opposed to credited with something else or no credit at all.
Also I see what you are saying about the money thing, but it wouldn't really be in the best interest to accept the appeal if they were in it for the money, assuming they would keep the money and it doesn't go to the FIG or anything.
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| The Japan athlete fell out of his dismount...his score should not have been changed. The decision was wrong IMO. |
I'm a bit interested in what the judging actually was, because the dismount he did perform is an actual dismount in the code of points, but he would have been hit hard in form deductions, the judges can't judge him based on what dismount he was suppose to do, they can only judge based on what he did do, so I wonder if initially they didn't give him credit for a dismount, or took deductions on a dismount he was supposed to do than what he did, or if the coaches felt he should have been given credit for the dismount he was suppose to do and deducted from there as opposed to given credit for a lower degree dismount. |
My understanding from the commentators was that the judges had deducted points for not doing the handstand and that would have meant that he had missed a requirement. They added .7 to his score.
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And the USA team self-destructed...unbelievable. |
I disagree completely, because for one it wasn't everyone on the team, it was mainly one person, John Orozco who didn't start out the meet well, struggling on pommel horse and vault, but I think the team really came together, they moved up from 8th to 5th and ended with 2 of their best events, finishing 3rd behind China and Japan in both parallel bars and high bar. This team really came together and pulled out what looked like an 8th place finish for most of the competition and moved up to 5th. |
OK, I must have missed more than I thought I had. Seemed like everytime I saw them, they were falling off of something. I saw 4-5 falls in the brief time I watched. |
They had 1 fall on floor (Sam Mikulak), 1 fall on pommel horse (Danell Leyva and I didn't see his routine, but from what I understand even though John Orozco didn't fall, he did very bad, not sure exactly what his mistakes were) and 1 fall on vault (John Orozco). Jake Dalton and Sam Mikulak really lead the team on floor, pommel horse and vault and Jonathan Horton put up a great still rings as did Jake Dalton and John Orozco. I think Sam and Jake's vaults really turned the tide for the men and as I mentioned the rocked parallel bars and high bar.
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| The Japan athlete fell out of his dismount...his score should not have been changed. The decision was wrong IMO. |
I'm a bit interested in what the judging actually was, because the dismount he did perform is an actual dismount in the code of points, but he would have been hit hard in form deductions, the judges can't judge him based on what dismount he was suppose to do, they can only judge based on what he did do, so I wonder if initially they didn't give him credit for a dismount, or took deductions on a dismount he was supposed to do than what he did, or if the coaches felt he should have been given credit for the dismount he was suppose to do and deducted from there as opposed to given credit for a lower degree dismount. |
My understanding from the commentators was that the judges had deducted points for not doing the handstand and that would have meant that he had missed a requirement. They added .7 to his score. |
Interesting, I wonder if the appeal was that the dismount he did do was an actual skill and they gave him start value credit for a dismount he didn't perform.
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