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PostPosted: 03/06/12 10:19 am    ::: Whiteboard update Reply Reply with quote

Mystics match Atlanta's offer to Matee Ajavon

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PostPosted: 03/06/12 11:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Hmmm - Dream clearly looking for a SG. Izi & Armintie still unsigned; what's left? Essence, MFH ( Confused )... This is worrisome.


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PostPosted: 03/06/12 11:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well maybe MM was just bidding up Ajavon (ala "Storage Wars"). Laughing

Looks like chances of Izi coming back may be getting better Very Happy .


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PostPosted: 03/06/12 1:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Well maybe MM was just bidding up Ajavon (ala "Storage Wars"). Laughing

Looks like chances of Izi coming back may be getting better Very Happy .


Why would having Izi return even be debatable for MM. I mean hello, Izi is a great player who comes up REALLY big for them on many occasions. If MM doesn't want Izi, I'd snatch her up in a heart beat for my team.

Hmm lets see. Izi >>>>> Ajavon. I don't know if MM is trying to replace Izi or not. Is it just because of the Olympics coming up? And MM wants Ajavon to fill in until Izi returns? Makes no sense to me why any team would want to give up Izi for Ajavon unless it's all about salary. And even if it's all about salary, I'd try to work something out to keep Izi.



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took them long enough



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PostPosted: 03/06/12 1:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Martini Man wrote:
Randy wrote:
Well maybe MM was just bidding up Ajavon (ala "Storage Wars"). Laughing

Looks like chances of Izi coming back may be getting better Very Happy .


Why would having Izi return even be debatable for MM. I mean hello, Izi is a great player who comes up REALLY big for them on many occasions. If MM doesn't want Izi, I'd snatch her up in a heart beat for my team.

Hmm lets see. Izi >>>>> Ajavon. I don't know if MM is trying to replace Izi or not. Is it just because of the Olympics coming up? And MM wants Ajavon to fill in until Izi returns? Makes no sense to me why any team would want to give up Izi for Ajavon unless it's all about salary. And even if it's all about salary, I'd try to work something out to keep Izi.

Did you actually watch her play last season? That's why it's 'debatable for MM'. When a player who does absolutely nothing besides score loses her scoring touch - and just keeps jacking up ugly bricks to compound the problem - her value goes through the floor. The Dream got a lot better last season when Price took over her starting spot and a lot of her minutes, and a couple of decent playoff games doesn't blank out the memory of a hideous 34-game regular season.

Also, Izi''s an unrestricted free agent, so it's always been debatable anyway - she can walk and play for someone else if she wants to regardless of what Meadors wants.

As for this signing, pretty much makes sense on all three sides: Ajavon trying to escape (or at least get paid); Atlanta trying to fill their hole at the 2; Washington not willing to let her go for nothing. Not convinced it would've been a great signing for Atlanta anyway, though. They've already got one ballstopper who takes some terrible shots out on the perimeter; adding another one might've just made things worse.



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PostPosted: 03/06/12 2:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Who's going to be our starting shooting guard? Izie had a bad year, but bad seasons happen to every player. Price can't shoot and really should not start at such a position. She is a sixth man, and good one at that. What to do MM, what to do? I do like Carson.


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PostPosted: 03/06/12 2:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

No question that Izi is a big question mark. She had her best season in 2010, but fell far short of that last year. She did struggle with an injury, but who's to say what she might do in 2012. As I recall, she had a terrible year in the last Olympic year debacle - 2008 (as did everyone else) but bounced back in 2009 and had her best year in 2010. So its a question of which Izi comes back, if she does at all.

Also, she may not want to come back since she made no secret of wanting to be a starter.

As for Carson, she always scares the heck out of me, so I'd much rather have her in Atl, than NY.


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PostPosted: 03/06/12 4:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Price can't shoot


Neither can Izi. Neither can Ajavon. Only Carson proved last season that she can shoot. Hopefully she's the one who signs with Atlanta.



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PostPosted: 03/06/12 4:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

In that case, Arminiti has one huge advantage over Ajavon and Izi - she knows she can't shot and doesn't try. Laughing Carson would be fine with me, but I figure NY will keep her.


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PostPosted: 03/06/12 6:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I seriously don't think Nicole Powell's boyfriend will let Essence walk for peanuts


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PostPosted: 03/06/12 6:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bballfan2005 wrote:
7upster wrote:
Price can't shoot


Neither can Izi. Neither can Ajavon. Only Carson proved last season that she can shoot. Hopefully she's the one who signs with Atlanta.


They shoot better the Armintie (Iknow that is not saying much). They can do more on offense then shoot lay-ups. I like Armintie as a back-up SG. I hope she comes back I really do but only as a back up. MM as well as everybody knows the SG postion needs an upgrade. SG is the weakest postition on the team.


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PostPosted: 03/06/12 7:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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They shoot better the Armintie (Iknow that is not saying much).


"More" does not equal "better". Both Ajavon and Castro Marques shoot more than Price because they are chuckers. They aren't better shooters than Price. Check the percentages.

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They can do more on offense then shoot lay-ups.


True. They also miss jumpers and turn the ball over.

7upster wrote:
I like Armintie as a back-up SG. I hope she comes back I really do but only as a back up. MM as well as everybody knows the SG postion needs an upgrade. SG is the weakest postition on the team.


It's one of the weakest positions in the league.



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It's one of the weakest positions in the league.


I'm not so sure. Murphy, Kara Lawson, Carson, Quinn, Wiggins, Wright and Jia Perkins all come off the bench and are all players that I would consider better starting options than Price. There is depth at that position in the league but some teams have it (Conn, Minn) and some don't (ATL, LA).


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PostPosted: 03/06/12 9:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Is it common for teams to announce that they plan to match an offer for an RFA?

I can't remember seeing that, but maybe I've just missed it. Why not wait to announce until they've actually re-signed the player? Seems like it would be more respectful of the player.


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PostPosted: 03/06/12 9:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The Tulsa Shock President and coach have problems, but I think they are free from worries of players signing elsewhere or teams attempting to sign them.


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PostPosted: 03/07/12 2:27 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

wadethered wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:

It's one of the weakest positions in the league.


I'm not so sure. Murphy, Kara Lawson, Carson, Quinn, Wiggins, Wright and Jia Perkins all come off the bench and are all players that I would consider better starting options than Price. There is depth at that position in the league but some teams have it (Conn, Minn) and some don't (ATL, LA).


You can leave Quinn off that list fore sure Laughing and M.Wright might be a better player overall but is not performing better then Price. Mintie doesnt get enough credit. She is a great perimeter defender and she does the small things that dont always show in the boxscore. She helped Atlanta go on a winning streak when she switched into a starting role last season but a lot of people seemed to have forget that because they only look at scoring ability Rolling Eyes



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bballfan2005 wrote:
7upster wrote:
They shoot better the Armintie (Iknow that is not saying much).


"More" does not equal "better". Both Ajavon and Castro Marques shoot more than Price because they are chuckers. They aren't better shooters than Price. Check the percentages.

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They can do more on offense then shoot lay-ups.


True. They also miss jumpers and turn the ball over.

7upster wrote:
I like Armintie as a back-up SG. I hope she comes back I really do but only as a back up. MM as well as everybody knows the SG postion needs an upgrade. SG is the weakest postition on the team.


It's one of the weakest positions in the league.


Damn you really like Armintie Price as Atlanta's starting shooting guard ? Ok, I get it. MM knows she needs to upgrade the SG position. It is the weakest position on the Atlanta Dream. Price is a sixth man that got a chance to start because Izie had a bad season. a shooting guard that can't do anything on offense but score lay up's
(and she just starting making those this past season). Fact reminds we need a starting shooting guard.


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wadethered wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:

It's one of the weakest positions in the league.


I'm not so sure. Murphy, Kara Lawson, Carson, Quinn, Wiggins, Wright and Jia Perkins all come off the bench and are all players that I would consider better starting options than Price. There is depth at that position in the league but some teams have it (Conn, Minn) and some don't (ATL, LA).


True.


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Damn you really like Armintie Price as Atlanta's starting shooting guard ? Ok, I get it. MM knows she needs to upgrade the SG position. It is the weakest position on the Atlanta Dream. Price is a sixth man that got a chance to start because Izie had a bad season. a shooting guard that can't do anything on offense but score lay up's
(and she just starting making those this past season). Fact reminds we need a starting shooting guard.


With the exception of her fantastic 2010 season and a couple of years under Anne Donovan, Izi has been a low-percentage shooter who does NOTHING else well. That's not a starting SG! Her A/TO is barely 1.0. She doesn't rebound worth a sh*t. She doesn't defend on a consistent basis. Everything of value that she does come from her being able to score. It worked in 2010. It did not work last year and hasn't worked for much of her WNBA career to this point.

I like Armintie Price as Atlanta's starting SG because she keeps the ball moving. She will not take shots away from Angel, Lindsey, Sancho, or Erika. She is able to defend whether she's having a strong offensive game or not. Her shooting ability is magnified because nobody in the current starting line-up can hit threes. Otherwise, it'd be a non-issue.

If we can get a clear upgrade (like an Essence Carson) in here to start, then I'm all for it. Otherwise, hoping for players like Ajavon and Castro Marques (who are not better players than Price) is going about business the wrong way. This may be a moot point anyway because it does appear that Price might be looking to go elsewhere (West?) this season. I know that her team's season has already ended and that she needs a little bit of time to decompress, but things are getting interesting the longer she waits to make a decision.



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PostPosted: 03/07/12 9:22 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

7upster wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:
7upster wrote:
They shoot better the Armintie (Iknow that is not saying much).


"More" does not equal "better". Both Ajavon and Castro Marques shoot more than Price because they are chuckers. They aren't better shooters than Price. Check the percentages.

7upster wrote:
They can do more on offense then shoot lay-ups.


True. They also miss jumpers and turn the ball over.

7upster wrote:
I like Armintie as a back-up SG. I hope she comes back I really do but only as a back up. MM as well as everybody knows the SG postion needs an upgrade. SG is the weakest postition on the team.


It's one of the weakest positions in the league.


Damn you really like Armintie Price as Atlanta's starting shooting guard ? Ok, I get it. MM knows she needs to upgrade the SG position. It is the weakest position on the Atlanta Dream. Price is a sixth man that got a chance to start because Izie had a bad season. a shooting guard that can't do anything on offense but score lay up's
(and she just starting making those this past season). Fact reminds we need a starting shooting guard.


I agree Armintie is more effective coming off the bench. However, her value is not necessarily measured on the stat sheet. She brings more hustle, energy and intensity than probably anyone else on the team (and her leadership probably somewhat keeps Lori Ann in check). Her defense is pretty darn good, and her FG% went up last year.

And, last I checked, lay-ups count as 2 points every time, so I don't see an issue with hitting those. They usually come in transition after she or somebody else has caused a turnover. MM needs to hurry on up and re-sign her, then decide how she's going to deal with Izzy (which I think is a bigger issue--sign and trade sounds pretty good to me). Armintie needs to stay.


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With the exception of her fantastic 2010 season and a couple of years under Anne Donovan, Izi has been a low-percentage shooter who does NOTHING else well. That's not a starting SG! Her A/TO is barely 1.0. She doesn't rebound worth a sh*t. She doesn't defend on a consistent basis. Everything of value that she does come from her being able to score. It worked in 2010. It did not work last year and hasn't worked for much of her WNBA career to this point.

I like Armintie Price as Atlanta's starting SG because she keeps the ball moving. She will not take shots away from Angel, Lindsey, Sancho, or Erika. She is able to defend whether she's having a strong offensive game or not. Her shooting ability is magnified because nobody in the current starting line-up can hit threes. Otherwise, it'd be a non-issue.



You are right but missing the point on Izi - She signed my No. 8 Jersey!!. Ha.

I am with you on Arminiti. She's Ms. Excitment. She can't shoot, but is smart enough to realize it, and is sort of like Mr. Mayem (from the insurance commercials) for the other team. She's in the game and good things happen for us, bad things for them. Hope she comes back.

Sure - I'd go for an upgrade, but you got to work with what you have.

Finally, Arminiti has other options -she's now an assistant coach at Ole Miss - she might want to stick with that. In the long run coaching is probably the better career path since you can do that till you are as old as me.


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Randy wrote:
bballfan2005 wrote:

With the exception of her fantastic 2010 season and a couple of years under Anne Donovan, Izi has been a low-percentage shooter who does NOTHING else well. That's not a starting SG! Her A/TO is barely 1.0. She doesn't rebound worth a sh*t. She doesn't defend on a consistent basis. Everything of value that she does come from her being able to score. It worked in 2010. It did not work last year and hasn't worked for much of her WNBA career to this point.

I like Armintie Price as Atlanta's starting SG because she keeps the ball moving. She will not take shots away from Angel, Lindsey, Sancho, or Erika. She is able to defend whether she's having a strong offensive game or not. Her shooting ability is magnified because nobody in the current starting line-up can hit threes. Otherwise, it'd be a non-issue.



You are right but missing the point on Izi - She signed my No. 8 Jersey!!. Ha.

I am with you on Arminiti. She's Ms. Excitment. She can't shoot, but is smart enough to realize it, and is sort of like Mr. Mayem (from the insurance commercials) for the other team. She's in the game and good things happen for us, bad things for them. Hope she comes back.

Sure - I'd go for an upgrade, but you got to work with what you have.

Finally, Arminiti has other options -she's now an assistant coach at Ole Miss - she might want to stick with that. In the long run coaching is probably the better career path since you can do that till you are as old as me.


Renee Ladner is out at Ole Miss, so Armintie might very well be without an assistant job as well.


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First rule of coaching - realize every job you get you will likely end up in being fired. Looks like she may be already learning that one.

Or maybe getting promoted to head coach. Very Happy I saw a few of their games this year on TV. They did look pretty bad. Though looks like they want experience.

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Doesn't seem like Atlanta is planning on having Castro-Marques back. Two teams, apart from Seattle, mentioned here having interest in her are Tulsa and Washington.



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Randy wrote:
First rule of coaching - realize every job you get you will likely end up in being fired. Looks like she may be already learning that one.

Or maybe getting promoted to head coach. I saw a few of their games this year on TV. They did look pretty bad.


I think she should play until she's at least 30. That Ole Miss job will likely be open again in about five years.



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I've never liked Castro-Marques because she's a volume shooter, and does nothing else.

I've always liked Castro-Marques because she's capable of going off in big games and scoring no matter what the defense does.

So though I emotionally prefer Price as a player -- I value intelligence, defense, consistency -- and I think she'd be perfect for Atlanta if they had another outside shooter, Izi might just be what Atlanta needs. The Dream's biggest problem in big games is scoring, and that's what Izi can provide. Unfortunately, she's just as likely to provide a 2-for-14 night as a 9-for-14 night, and she has no apparently ability to discriminate between a smart basketball play and a stupid one.

But she is so athletic that when she gets going, she's going to get her points, and there are not that many players in the league you can say that about.



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It always bugs me when the commentators say something like, "well, a shooter is just going to keep shooting and eventually they'll start to go in." To me, that is just stupid thinking. I like the "if your shot is not falling, you need to find other ways to score and/or help your team" version much better. And to me, players like Izi need the right coach to control the tendency to get out of hand. Meadors is not really that coach and since Izi is not going to take care of it herself, there will continue to be the super Izi and the super bad Izi so long as she is in Atlanta.

That said. I love Izi! She is a really fun player to watch and when she is getting out on the break she makes those spectacular 8-10' runners off the glass like nobody else in the game. They are pure beauty.

Armintie - Yes, you can say she shoots a high percentage, but can you really say she can make layups when she misses almost half of them. Ok, occasionally she takes a 4-5' jumper. But to me a player that shoots 90% of her shots on layup attempts should be shooting about 80% from the field.

No matter how you cut it, having a starting SG who can't shoot, regardless of whatever else they can do, is a problem....and in this case is especially compounded since none of the other starters can consistently shoot the 3 either. Obviously MM is trying to help this out a little by adding Koehn and Kraay, but then you have to figure out when/how to play them. This issue goes away if you have a starting SG who can actually shoot.


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Clay, as I was reading your post, the thought occurred to me, "What if the Dream could sign Tweety? I think they could take down Chicago and Minne w/ that line-up!


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Clay, as I was reading your post, the thought occurred to me, "What if the Dream could sign Tweety? I think they could take down Chicago and Minne w/ that line-up!


Tweety is cored by Tulsa. They would have to make a trade to get her.


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It always bugs me when the commentators say something like, "well, a shooter is just going to keep shooting and eventually they'll start to go in." To me, that is just stupid thinking. I like the "if your shot is not falling, you need to find other ways to score and/or help your team" version much better. And to me, players like Izi need the right coach to control the tendency to get out of hand. Meadors is not really that coach and since Izi is not going to take care of it herself, there will continue to be the super Izi and the super bad Izi so long as she is in Atlanta.


Agreed! When Izi's shots are not falling, she needs to take it to the hoop and draw contact to earn free practice shots at the charity stripe. That's the time-honored way of getting yourself into rhythm during game time.



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Strange as it seems Izi struggles hit free throws. I agree with the comment about her being amazing to watch at times. She could play with the Globetrotters after she retires.


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PUmatty wrote:
OldGoat wrote:
Clay, as I was reading your post, the thought occurred to me, "What if the Dream could sign Tweety? I think they could take down Chicago and Minne w/ that line-up!


Tweety is cored by Tulsa. They would have to make a trade to get her.


I still dont understand the CORE rule, How you core someone without permission tho



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icey23 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
OldGoat wrote:
Clay, as I was reading your post, the thought occurred to me, "What if the Dream could sign Tweety? I think they could take down Chicago and Minne w/ that line-up!


Tweety is cored by Tulsa. They would have to make a trade to get her.


I still dont understand the CORE rule, How you core someone without permission tho


You don't need their permission. Each team is allowed to use the designation on one player at a time. It essentially means they can not become a free agent. Instead, they automatically get the max salary (if they show up to play, which Nolan doesn't) and they do not get the right to negotiate or sign with other teams.

That means Tulsa still hold Nolan's rights as if she never became a free agent. The only way she can play for another team is if that team trades to Tulsa for those rights.


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PUmatty wrote:
icey23 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
OldGoat wrote:
Clay, as I was reading your post, the thought occurred to me, "What if the Dream could sign Tweety? I think they could take down Chicago and Minne w/ that line-up!


Tweety is cored by Tulsa. They would have to make a trade to get her.


I still dont understand the CORE rule, How you core someone without permission tho


You don't need their permission. Each team is allowed to use the designation on one player at a time. It essentially means they can not become a free agent. Instead, they automatically get the max salary (if they show up to play, which Nolan doesn't) and they do not get the right to negotiate or sign with other teams.

That means Tulsa still hold Nolan's rights as if she never became a free agent. The only way she can play for another team is if that team trades to Tulsa for those rights.


WOW, Smh the W needs to change that



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icey23 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
icey23 wrote:
PUmatty wrote:
OldGoat wrote:
Clay, as I was reading your post, the thought occurred to me, "What if the Dream could sign Tweety? I think they could take down Chicago and Minne w/ that line-up!


Tweety is cored by Tulsa. They would have to make a trade to get her.


I still dont understand the CORE rule, How you core someone without permission tho


You don't need their permission. Each team is allowed to use the designation on one player at a time. It essentially means they can not become a free agent. Instead, they automatically get the max salary (if they show up to play, which Nolan doesn't) and they do not get the right to negotiate or sign with other teams.

That means Tulsa still hold Nolan's rights as if she never became a free agent. The only way she can play for another team is if that team trades to Tulsa for those rights.


WOW, Smh the W needs to change that


It is a way to keep star players with their teams, an important part of developing fan loyalty. It is no different than the franchise tag in the NFL. It is part of the collective bargaining that the league and the players agree on.


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In regard to the Izi debate, I've never been an overwhelming fan of players whose highly charged nature contributes to their inconsistency. A player who can be so strong scoring in given years (2009, 2010), but then off the radar (2008, 2011). And even when she scores, she is not all that well-rounded of an offensive player. I think her emotional nature can work against her performance...where some players play their best when at a high emotional level...she is much more up and down. Not my personal thing. And she is so talented. When going right in the open floor, she can be unstoppable when she is playing well. When she's hot, she can make shots, including important ones, in a hurry. The only thing being, if she starts a penetration, you know she is almost always shooting. Being a better passer would actually help her scoring because it would give teams passing lanes to defend when she drives. But she has never really developed that aspect of her game.

I'm a Price fan. Except when she plays against NY because she has a way of hurting us. She's a consistent, high-IQ player who finishes really well. One of these years you wonder if she develops more of a shot. Amazingly, 142 of her 208 shot attempts were inside of 5 feet, which speaks to her ability to get to the rim even when defenses are geared to contain just that aspect of her game.


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I will state this again If Tweety wanted to play in the WNBA she would. The money she make overseas allow her not to have to play in the US.They might want to target Tyra White in the second round in the draft she is pro-ready and would not have a problem with Angel ways.


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allenleavell wrote:
I will state this again If Tweety wanted to play in the WNBA she would. The money she make overseas allow her not to have to play in the US.They might want to target Tyra White in the second round in the draft she is pro-ready and would not have a problem with Angel ways.


The Dark Angel has ways? Wink



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Have not been impressed with Tyra White at all this year. Big disappointment. I think she only looked good because of Adams and Colson. Why would Atlanta want another guard who can't shoot for shit?


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For you Rebkell veterans, the "whiteboard" is the new "hopper." Discuss.


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CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
For you Rebkell veterans, the "whiteboard" is the new "hopper." Discuss.


More hilarity, less mystery. We know what's on the whiteboard. We never could figure out what was in the hopper.



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Queenie wrote:
CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
For you Rebkell veterans, the "whiteboard" is the new "hopper." Discuss.


More hilarity, less mystery. We know what's on the whiteboard. We never could figure out what was in the hopper.


Love it! The only difference was The Hopper seemed to have some promise of hope attached to it. Somehow. In the case of Trudi's whiteboard I doubt if anyone has faith anything half decent will come of it.
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suemar wrote:
Queenie wrote:
CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
For you Rebkell veterans, the "whiteboard" is the new "hopper." Discuss.


More hilarity, less mystery. We know what's on the whiteboard. We never could figure out what was in the hopper.


Love it! The only difference was The Hopper seemed to have some promise of hope attached to it. Somehow. In the case of Trudi's whiteboard I doubt if anyone has faith anything half decent will come of it.
She might as well be writing with invisable ink.


Well, the whiteboard did end up being somewhat accurate. Not impressive, mind you, but accurate.

Wasn't there a list of draft prospects that were cropped off by the poster?


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Making Mystics a contender is Lacey's next step

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/15/making-mystics-a-playoff-contender-is-next-step-of/

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“We were a young team last year with a lot of inexperienced players,” Lacey said. “We’re building our team around getting more versatile players who can play multiple positions and who have some experience; players who can help us win some of those close games that we lost last year.”



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pilight wrote:
Making Mystics a contender is Lacey's next step

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/15/making-mystics-a-playoff-contender-is-next-step-of/

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“We were a young team last year with a lot of inexperienced players,” Lacey said. “We’re building our team around getting more versatile players who can play multiple positions and who have some experience; players who can help us win some of those close games that we lost last year.”


She must have decided she liked versatile players AFTER she made the whiteboard video.
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That article is maddening on so many levels, including the "we were a young team last year" b.s. And query whether the writer even knows 2009 and 2010 happened.


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That article is maddening on so many levels, including the "we were a young team last year" b.s. And query whether the writer even knows 2009 and 2010 happened.


Yeah, failing to mention HOW the team "got young" (the veterans bailed from the sinking ship) and how they announced that "getting young" was part of the plan for rebuilding the team into a contender (after the team won the regular season conference title).

So, ever the "optimist" (tale spinner), she fed the young to the real contenders and went after the veterans no other team wanted and proceeds to spin this move with another "this was our plan" to turn the team into a contender.

I'm just sitting here waiting for the moment when she starts picking up the rookies who don't make other rosters to replace the multitude of veterans who couldn't make rosters. Can't hardly wait for the whiplash.

We can just start right now predicting who will be the first rookie cut who will be brought into the Mystics camp. And the funny part? They will probably start for this team.



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Lacey mentioned getting a 3 or 4 who could shoot 3's. Kayla Standish?


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I realize this is going to sound a little crazy, but the Mystics is going to be one of the hardest teams for a rookie to make this year.

J. Thomas/Canty/N. Lacy
Ajevon/Quinn
Curry/Gardin
Langhorne/Pringle
Snow/Robinson

This doesn't include Harper and Walker, so the rookies at 8 and 10 will have to take spots from the above players. So lets say you get Novosel, Hayes or R. Williams and Barrett or Hurt, Who should get bumped so they can make the squad? Gardin, Lacy and Pringle seem to be the firs to go but there experience might get them past a rookie, and even if Pringle was to go you have Harper and Walker to get past if you're the post rookie. I like Hayes but do you drop Quinn for Hayes, I would but would Trudi? After Canty N. Lacy might be the closest thing to a PG the Mystics have, do you drop her Novosel or R. Williams, maybe? And if R. Williams does replace Lacy and Barrett replaces Gardin are you really any better? Or are you just younger?


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