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CamrnCrz1974



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PostPosted: 09/05/05 1:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Notice there is no comment from Seth Sulka or the Mercury about Geno having actually been offered the job...and that is all I am saying for now.


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 1:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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What about Dawn Staley?


just my off-the-cuff opinion, but i think that being a player in the W is a smaller responisibility than being a coach. also, i wouldn't be afraid to argue that her recruiting responsibilities have been a factor in the edge dropping off of staley's game.



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PostPosted: 09/05/05 1:15 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Again, notice how there is no quote from Sulka or the Mercury about Geno having actually been offered the job.


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 1:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

So Geno is trying to stir up something or the reporter is just talking out of his arse?
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PostPosted: 09/05/05 1:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It is more a comment on Geno and the CT media...


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 1:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
Notice there is no comment from Seth Sulka or the Mercury about Geno having actually been offered the job...and that is all I am saying for now.


That's true. There is no concrete evidence that he's been offered the job.

This quote, however, leads me to believe he is being considered (maybe):

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"This has all happened pretty quickly, but when you have someone like Geno Auriemma, who's one of the best coaches around, he'll be at the top of anyone's list," Phoenix general manager Seth Sulka said Sunday.


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 1:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Geno VS. BL would be the first time I actually get behind Geno! I do find Geno entertaining though, and to have him in the W would be one more intriguing personality, which how could that hurt!



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PostPosted: 09/05/05 1:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Since you aren't reading between the lines...Geno was NOT offered the job.


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 1:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
Since you aren't reading between the lines...Geno was NOT offered the job.


Yeah...caught that part.

Alright, then why the hell are we even discussing this subject then? Stupid CT media Twisted Evil .


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 3:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I guess it's a moot point, but would Taurasi want to play for Geno again?


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 3:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ok....so Geno wasn't offered the job. Why not? I don't see the harm in calling him up and saying....we have X number of dollars we can pay you and a chance to coach Dee again. Take it or leave it. The worst thing that could happen is that Geno says no.....which seems likely according to popular opinion on this board. However, Seth will always be able to say....hey, I tried. I offered him the job. -or- is Seth afraid that the answer might be yes?


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 3:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

y'know, now i don't give a shit whether he was offered the damned job.


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 4:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
Since you aren't reading between the lines...Geno was NOT offered the job.


So Geno stepped forward and is asking for the position??


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 4:31 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It sounds to me like some reporter somewhere either got a hint that somebody in Phoenix threw his name on the table or else just dreamed up the idea, then went fishing with a call to the Phoenix front office.


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 4:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Cam, out of curiousity, do you know if Seth is PLANNING to offer Geno the job..or is it just a stupid rumor?


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 4:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Cam, out of curiousity, do you know if Seth is PLANNING to offer Geno the job..or is it just a stupid rumor?


It's a plot to get us talking about the Merc all day even though they're not in the playoffs. And to get UConn fans talking about something other than the misdeeds of a few MCBB players and the pressure this year on Ketia Swanier and Mel Thomas.

Seems to be working, too.


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 5:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

accommodatingly wrote:
mercfan3 wrote:
Cam, out of curiousity, do you know if Seth is PLANNING to offer Geno the job..or is it just a stupid rumor?


It's a plot to get us talking about the Merc all day even though they're not in the playoffs. And to get UConn fans talking about something other than the misdeeds of a few MCBB players and the pressure this year on Ketia Swanier and Mel Thomas.

Seems to be working, too.


Laughing

Don't forget about the pressure that may find itself on Renee Montgomery & Kalana Greene.

Sadly, this news is overshadowing the fact that Brittany Hunter has been cleared for full contact drills. Woo-Hoo Smile !!!


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PostPosted: 09/05/05 5:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, this whole "Geno leaving UCONN" was really being played up in our news tonight, every channel had it as a lead in to the news , just a little blurb to reel you into watching until the last 2 minutes when they reported that "according to the PHO GM, he has not offered Geno the job ,but did say that any top womens college coach would certainly be on the list to consider" Channel 30's Persefone Contos said she spoke with Seth Sulka herself.


Speaking as a HUGE UCONN fan, I would certainly miss Geno, but I would not be pissed if he left. I personally think that he will stay where he is for a good long time Very Happy However,I think that he and BL would be a hoot to watch Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: 09/06/05 8:41 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The following quote is from jeff Jacobs' article today, see Pilight's link about Whalen. It's in the bottom, and is dead on IMO
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This is intriguing maneuvering by Auriemma's camp, leaking what they did when they did. Does Geno want to remind us how lucky we are to have him? Or is this a way of tweaking folks who dared question him over his Nike contract and tickets-for-cars exchanges? And with this story potentially dragging on for days, is this a way of raining on Jim Calhoun's parade the very week of his Hall of Fame induction?


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PostPosted: 09/06/05 8:59 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
The following quote is from jeff Jacobs' article today, see Pilight's link about Whalen. It's in the bottom, and is dead on IMO
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This is intriguing maneuvering by Auriemma's camp, leaking what they did when they did. Does Geno want to remind us how lucky we are to have him? Or is this a way of tweaking folks who dared question him over his Nike contract and tickets-for-cars exchanges? And with this story potentially dragging on for days, is this a way of raining on Jim Calhoun's parade the very week of his Hall of Fame induction?


Good paper, the Courant. I know there's a rivalry and all, but I doubt Geno orchestrated a leak with the primary intention of taking column inches away from Calhoun. To the other two questions I'd answer "Yes."

Still wondering if he could try to coach both teams (not saying this would be a good idea).

Cam, caune, brigade members: what do you want to see in the next Phoenix coach? Is there anything you'd say that Graf did wrong? I'm not asking for names, but for styles, strengths, weaknesses.

I wonder if she should have played Irvin more often, earlier (though there's the issue of her stomach flu-- dunno how serious that was), and she might have done better at working the refs (not sure).

And yes, I understand that she was not fired. I'm not alleging that she was.


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PostPosted: 09/06/05 9:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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dtsnms wrote:
The following quote is from jeff Jacobs' article today, see Pilight's link about Whalen. It's in the bottom, and is dead on IMO
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This is intriguing maneuvering by Auriemma's camp, leaking what they did when they did. Does Geno want to remind us how lucky we are to have him? Or is this a way of tweaking folks who dared question him over his Nike contract and tickets-for-cars exchanges? And with this story potentially dragging on for days, is this a way of raining on Jim Calhoun's parade the very week of his Hall of Fame induction?


Good paper, the Courant. I know there's a rivalry and all, but I doubt Geno orchestrated a leak with the primary intention of taking column inches away from Calhoun. To the other two questions I'd answer "Yes."

Still wondering if he could try to coach both teams (not saying this would be a good idea).

Cam, caune, brigade members: what do you want to see in the next Phoenix coach? Is there anything you'd say that Graf did wrong? I'm not asking for names, but for styles, strengths, weaknesses.

I wonder if she should have played Irvin more often, earlier (though there's the issue of her stomach flu-- dunno how serious that was), and she might have done better at working the refs (not sure).

And yes, I understand that she was not fired. I'm not alleging that she was.


Trust me, I'd believe he would try to deflect some of the attention from Calhoun. They are far from best friends.


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whatever his specific intentions, he hasn't come off looking very good in this whole thing. I thought it was stupid when Coach K did his Laker flirtation last year. And this looks even stupider.


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womens_hoops wrote:
whatever his specific intentions, he hasn't come off looking very good in this whole thing. I thought it was stupid when Coach K did his Laker flirtation last year. And this looks even stupider.


I dson't think it makes him look stupid, I think it makes the media look stupid, but Geno is Geno, manipulative, yes, stupid, far from it Shocked



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I dson't think it makes him look stupid, I think it makes the media look stupid, but Geno is Geno, manipulative, yes, stupid, far from it


maybe "manipulative" and "petty" are better here. but also stupid in the sense that it's really looking like this has backfired. he controlled the story for only half of one day. we're in day two of the media cycle, and already Jeff Jacobs (probably the most respected sports columnist in the state) is ridiculing him.

i think he's stupid in the sense that whatever he was trying to accomplish, it didn't work, and it's only made him look silly and petty in the process.


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Cam, caune, brigade members: what do you want to see in the next Phoenix coach? Is there anything you'd say that Graf did wrong? I'm not asking for names, but for styles, strengths, weaknesses.


I think the whole "Put the ball in Dianas hands and good things will happen" idea was the problem. Cutting Jae Cross was just plain dumb.
I think Carrie did fine with the refs, as good as you can do with the handicapped;)
I don't think Sandora would have made a hill of beans of difference, but that's just my take. I think it took her some time to get it, and when she did, great, she got her minutes. I would have liked to see Snelly play more though, her hustle set a great example.

And Dee came into camp lacking focus because she'd not played competitvely in 6 months which didn't help, and Penny, Kamilla and Maria not being here to start was huge.

I think Carrie's a great coach, but the thing lacking, the thing that I think Diana needs and Geno provides is fire and passion. Carrie is laid back and she needed an assistant who was the opposite (like Agler the year before?).

Now who should fill her shoes?
My choice is Michael Cooper if we can get him, an experienced winner and passionate coach



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womens_hoops wrote:
caune wrote:
I dson't think it makes him look stupid, I think it makes the media look stupid, but Geno is Geno, manipulative, yes, stupid, far from it


maybe "manipulative" and "petty" are better here. but also stupid in the sense that it's really looking like this has backfired. he controlled the story for only half of one day. we're in day two of the media cycle, and already Jeff Jacobs (probably the most respected sports columnist in the state) is ridiculing him.

i think he's stupid in the sense that whatever he was trying to accomplish, it didn't work, and it's only made him look silly and petty in the process.


so has that ever concerned Geno before? He got his point across. CT turned into a state of adoration again for a short period of time.


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I would have liked to see Snelly play more though, her hustle set a great example.


Uhuh.

Carrie should watch out when Sydney plays Canberra. I can see some 30 point outings from Snelly on the way... Laughing

MCoop would be a good pickup but I don't think that's the direction he wants to take his career.
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Geno Auriemma, UConn's future Hall of Fame coach, has been offered the head coaching position of the WNBA's Phoenix Mercury, multiple sources have confirmed. Auriemma has yet to either accept or decline the offer, one of the sources said. The source said that Auriemma, 51, is "intrigued" by the offer. Should he accept the position with the Mercury he would be reunited with former UConn All-America and national player of the year Diana Taurasi.


Perhaps Geno was asked if he would even consider the job before being offered the job. There's room between being courted for a position and being offered it. The reporter, Mr Elliott, says the story was confirmed by multiple sources. This issue could be one of semantics.

RICH ELLIOTT relliott@ctpost.com
We could always ask Rich to dig a little further.

At any rate it's good PR not just for Geno and UCONN but for the Phoenix Mercury. Whether true of false, it's flattering to the Mercury and the WNBA that Auriemma might be interested because Auriemma is da BOMB. Also, whether true of false it gives the impresson that Sulka and team ownership are willing to grab the lead instead of relegating the coaching search to the back burner as other teams have done. Not only did Carrie 'resign' promptly instead of twisting in the wind, but what for other organizations would have been a negative has been reframed as a positive and we haven't even reached the WNBA finals.


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bluewolfvii wrote:
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Geno Auriemma, UConn's future Hall of Fame coach, has been offered the head coaching position of the WNBA's Phoenix Mercury, multiple sources have confirmed. Auriemma has yet to either accept or decline the offer, one of the sources said. The source said that Auriemma, 51, is "intrigued" by the offer. Should he accept the position with the Mercury he would be reunited with former UConn All-America and national player of the year Diana Taurasi.


Perhaps Geno was asked if he would even consider the job before being offered the job. There's room between being courted for a position and being offered it. The reporter, Mr Elliott, says the story was confirmed by multiple sources. This issue could be one of semantics.

RICH ELLIOTT relliott@ctpost.com
We could always ask Rich to dig a little further.

At any rate it's good PR not just for Geno and UCONN but for the Phoenix Mercury. Whether true of false, it's flattering to the Mercury and the WNBA that Auriemma might be interested because Auriemma is da BOMB. Also, whether true of false it gives the impresson that Sulka and team ownership are willing to grab the lead instead of relegating the coaching search to the back burner as other teams have done. Not only did Carrie 'resign' promptly instead of twisting in the wind, but what for other organizations would have been a negative has been reframed as a positive and we haven't even reached the WNBA finals.


There you go! Blue gets it!


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yes, but in this case, "multiple sources" may just have been two different people that Geno told to call certain (pliant, lapdog) reporters.

"My point is that because it got out the way it got out, there's no spin here," Sulka said. "I'm trying to be open about our process, and our process is just starting. You know your media better. ... Multiple sources? That's crap."


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Perhaps Geno was asked if he would even consider the job before being offered the job. There's room between being courted for a position and being offered it. The reporter, Mr Elliott, says the story was confirmed by multiple sources. This issue could be one of semantics.



Excellent point. At the collegiate level, the press is notorious for ignoring the distinction between "making an offer" and "inquiring about interest", and the interests of the concerned parties give them even more incentive to continue to do so. No reason why that should be differenta t the pro level.


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Perhaps Geno was asked if he would even consider the job before being offered the job. There's room between being courted for a position and being offered it. The reporter, Mr Elliott, says the story was confirmed by multiple sources. This issue could be one of semantics.


i think it is one of semantics in the sense that if Geno wanted this job, he could have it.

Seth said yesterday that he talks to Geno frequently. But he also said (or at least implied) that he hadn't yet really sounded him out about the job. Of course, he also said that (now that he knows Geno might be interested!) that he would contact him and see if there's sincere interest.

"When you couple that with the fact that our key player is from Connecticut and played for Geno and obviously has a great respect for Geno, I think that's how people can start putting things together. But there hasn't been, certainly, any offers made. We wouldn't even approach him without going through all the things we need to do to even do that, which would be contacting the university."

"Well, I've talked to Geno probably 12 times in the last six days about a lot of things, even before we had an opening, as he was preparing to work the WNBA playoffs [for ESPN]. We talk all the time. But we have not talked specifically about an interview or anything."


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PostPosted: 09/06/05 9:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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And Dee came into camp lacking focus because she'd not played competitvely in 6 months which didn't help, and Penny, Kamilla and Maria not being here to start was huge.

I think Carrie's a great coach, but the thing lacking, the thing that I think Diana needs and Geno provides is fire and passion. Carrie is laid back and she needed an assistant who was the opposite (like Agler the year before?).


I agree with this assessment of both Dee and Coach Graf. There were times that the team played so flat when you would expect them to come out swinging so to speak (ie do-or-die playoff games). Part of that I attributed to the Coach's style, which I felt was too laid back. Times I expected her to get in the teams collective azzes, she was just so chill. Not meaning to dis Carrie in any way, but that just seems to be her personality.

I think the point about Dee's lack of focus is a good one. She did not come in as ready as she should have been. And goodness knows she need somebody to get in her shit when she's not doing what she's supposed to do. I think she's used to that and it helps push her and give her that edge she needs to play with.

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