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myrtle
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I don't think Chicago really has anybody to trade for McCarville and they won't give up #2 for her.
On the other hand, we can dream about Cheryl Ford. Add Cheryl and Shenise, and this team really improves. I think Snow is good also, just not as a starter. If Chicago had her coming off the bench, and maybe Mistie as a backup as well, the post situation would be resolved.
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| Posted: 11/13/11 2:20 pm ::: |
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| McCarville and the #7 pick (Maybe Tyra White, T. Hayes or D. Peters) for the #2 pick (Stricklen or S. Johnson to NY)?
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| Posted: 11/13/11 3:23 pm ::: |
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| Sandrine Gruda should be a RFA in 2012. If the Sky offers her a fat contract I think she would take it. If she remained with the Sun she would be on the bench behind Charles and Jones.
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| Posted: 11/13/11 3:47 pm ::: |
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| Sandrine Gruda should be a RFA in 2012. If the Sky offers her a fat contract I think she would take it. If she remained with the Sun she would be on the bench behind Charles and Jones. |
She sat out 2011. There's still one year left in her rookie contract.
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| Posted: 11/13/11 8:43 pm ::: |
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| Anyone know what's up with Shameka Christon? Is she going to be able to come back next year?
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GEF34
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| Posted: 11/13/11 10:34 pm ::: |
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| Sandrine Gruda should be a RFA in 2012. If the Sky offers her a fat contract I think she would take it. If she remained with the Sun she would be on the bench behind Charles and Jones. |
Would the Chicago Sky be willing to let her come late every season and at times miss half the season or not come at all the way Connecticut was willing to work with her?
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Richyyy
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| Posted: 11/13/11 11:57 pm ::: |
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| Rock Hard wrote: |
| Sandrine Gruda should be a RFA in 2012. If the Sky offers her a fat contract I think she would take it. If she remained with the Sun she would be on the bench behind Charles and Jones. |
Would the Chicago Sky be willing to let her come late every season and at times miss half the season or not come at all the way Connecticut was willing to work with her? |
She'd fit right in with their coach. |
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GEF34
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| Posted: 11/14/11 12:13 am ::: |
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| Rock Hard wrote: |
| Sandrine Gruda should be a RFA in 2012. If the Sky offers her a fat contract I think she would take it. If she remained with the Sun she would be on the bench behind Charles and Jones. |
Would the Chicago Sky be willing to let her come late every season and at times miss half the season or not come at all the way Connecticut was willing to work with her? |
She'd fit right in with their coach. |
That's a good point. Is she going to continue coaching in Russia after this season, or is this her least season coaching there?
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| Posted: 11/14/11 1:33 am ::: |
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| GEF34, no problem. Richyyy meant that as a diss to Pokey I caught on to that.
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| Posted: 11/14/11 3:09 am ::: |
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| sure_thing34 wrote: |
| Richyyy wrote: |
| GEF34 wrote: |
| Rock Hard wrote: |
| Sandrine Gruda should be a RFA in 2012. If the Sky offers her a fat contract I think she would take it. If she remained with the Sun she would be on the bench behind Charles and Jones. |
Would the Chicago Sky be willing to let her come late every season and at times miss half the season or not come at all the way Connecticut was willing to work with her? |
She'd fit right in with their coach. |
Huh? Pokey is with the Sky from the beginning of the season till the end how does that compare to Gruda's situation? As far as GM go Pokey says she follow all the college basketball action from sling box and her assistant Jeff House goes to the games in person. It's not like she's being a halftime GM/Coach for the Sky  |
Assuming you meant 'part-time' rather than 'halftime', that's exactly what she is. More of her year is spent coaching her European team than the Sky, and if she's spending lots of time watching college ball in Russia then she's short-changing Spartak right along with Chicago, because she should be focussing on their next opponents and coaching that team.
I'm still surprised that Chicago were willing to hire her without the stipulation that she'd stop coaching in Europe in following seasons. It's going to be significantly worse in 2012 than it was in 2011 as well - if she's in Russia throughout their domestic playoffs (as you'd expect her to be), she'll probably barely be back in the US in time for the regular season to start. Never mind periods like, say, free agency, the draft, and the preseason. |
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| Posted: 11/14/11 3:13 pm ::: |
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| Richyyy wrote: |
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| Richyyy wrote: |
| GEF34 wrote: |
| Rock Hard wrote: |
| Sandrine Gruda should be a RFA in 2012. If the Sky offers her a fat contract I think she would take it. If she remained with the Sun she would be on the bench behind Charles and Jones. |
Would the Chicago Sky be willing to let her come late every season and at times miss half the season or not come at all the way Connecticut was willing to work with her? |
She'd fit right in with their coach. |
Huh? Pokey is with the Sky from the beginning of the season till the end how does that compare to Gruda's situation? As far as GM go Pokey says she follow all the college basketball action from sling box and her assistant Jeff House goes to the games in person. It's not like she's being a halftime GM/Coach for the Sky |
Assuming you meant 'part-time' rather than 'halftime', that's exactly what she is. More of her year is spent coaching her European team than the Sky, and if she's spending lots of time watching college ball in Russia then she's short-changing Spartak right along with Chicago, because she should be focussing on their next opponents and coaching that team.
I'm still surprised that Chicago were willing to hire her without the stipulation that she'd stop coaching in Europe in following seasons. It's going to be significantly worse in 2012 than it was in 2011 as well - if she's in Russia throughout their domestic playoffs (as you'd expect her to be), she'll probably barely be back in the US in time for the regular season to start. Never mind periods like, say, free agency, the draft, and the preseason. |
I'm pretty sure John Wisenant and Brian Agler are some where at there house relaxing, watching college basketball, and checking their daily wnba check ups (free agents, overseas play, etc). While Pokey is doing the exact same thing but with other obligations. A matter of fact she's closer to all the players, she get to check out free agents when they play against her team. Obviously it is way they(Sky) can make it work or they wouldn't have offered her the position. It's no way Pokey will miss a part of the WNBA season.
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PUmatty
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| Posted: 11/14/11 3:17 pm ::: |
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Obviously it is way they(Sky) can make it work or they wouldn't have offered her the position. |
It has worked yet, or did I miss where Chicago was a well-coached successful team last year?
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sure_thing34
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| Posted: 11/14/11 3:20 pm ::: |
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Obviously it is way they(Sky) can make it work or they wouldn't have offered her the position. |
It has worked yet, or did I miss where Chicago was a well-coached successful team last year? |
I'm talking about her being able to coach both teams. It's a way she can be there for both teams in both full seasons without missing any days during the job.
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| Posted: 11/14/11 5:31 pm ::: |
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Obviously it is way they(Sky) can make it work or they wouldn't have offered her the position. |
It has worked yet, or did I miss where Chicago was a well-coached successful team last year? |
Has the Sky been a well-coached succesfull at all in their years in the wnba? So she is certainly not doing worse
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PUmatty
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| Posted: 11/14/11 5:33 pm ::: |
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Obviously it is way they(Sky) can make it work or they wouldn't have offered her the position. |
It has worked yet, or did I miss where Chicago was a well-coached successful team last year? |
Has the Sky been a well-coached succesfull at all in their years in the wnba? So she is certainly not doing worse |
That is certainly the bar I would be setting.
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| Posted: 11/14/11 5:42 pm ::: |
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| Despite all the preseason hype, Chicago wasn't any better as a team in 2011 than they were in 2010. Pokey's presence didn't make much of a difference from what I could tell.
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| Posted: 11/14/11 6:04 pm ::: |
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| Despite all the preseason hype, Chicago wasn't any better as a team in 2011 than they were in 2010. Pokey's presence didn't make much of a difference from what I could tell. |
The record was the same, but the team played better.
The Sky are still talent poor. They still haven't recovered from the Dupree for Kraayeveld trade.
Pokey as GM did worse than Pokey the coach. The Perkins for Snow trade was a disaster. Prince was a step down from Perkins and Snow was a step down from Bass. Vandersloot of 2011 wasn't as good as Canty of 2010, but has more upside.
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GEF34
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| Posted: 11/14/11 10:49 pm ::: |
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| Richyyy wrote: |
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| Rock Hard wrote: |
| Sandrine Gruda should be a RFA in 2012. If the Sky offers her a fat contract I think she would take it. If she remained with the Sun she would be on the bench behind Charles and Jones. |
Would the Chicago Sky be willing to let her come late every season and at times miss half the season or not come at all the way Connecticut was willing to work with her? |
She'd fit right in with their coach. |
Huh? Pokey is with the Sky from the beginning of the season till the end how does that compare to Gruda's situation? As far as GM go Pokey says she follow all the college basketball action from sling box and her assistant Jeff House goes to the games in person. It's not like she's being a halftime GM/Coach for the Sky |
Assuming you meant 'part-time' rather than 'halftime', that's exactly what she is. More of her year is spent coaching her European team than the Sky, and if she's spending lots of time watching college ball in Russia then she's short-changing Spartak right along with Chicago, because she should be focussing on their next opponents and coaching that team.
I'm still surprised that Chicago were willing to hire her without the stipulation that she'd stop coaching in Europe in following seasons. It's going to be significantly worse in 2012 than it was in 2011 as well - if she's in Russia throughout their domestic playoffs (as you'd expect her to be), she'll probably barely be back in the US in time for the regular season to start. Never mind periods like, say, free agency, the draft, and the preseason. |
I'm pretty sure John Wisenant and Brian Agler are some where at there house relaxing, watching college basketball, and checking their daily wnba check ups (free agents, overseas play, etc). While Pokey is doing the exact same thing but with other obligations. A matter of fact she's closer to all the players, she get to check out free agents when they play against her team. Obviously it is way they(Sky) can make it work or they wouldn't have offered her the position. It's no way Pokey will miss a part of the WNBA season. |
If her team is currently in the playoffs in Russia are you expecting her to leave her Russian team to take over the Sky if there is a conflict?
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| Posted: 11/14/11 10:55 pm ::: |
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Obviously it is way they(Sky) can make it work or they wouldn't have offered her the position. |
It has worked yet, or did I miss where Chicago was a well-coached successful team last year? |
Has the Sky been a well-coached succesfull at all in their years in the wnba? So she is certainly not doing worse |
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