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Genero36
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Posted: 05/07/19 8:43 pm ::: BREAKING: NYT obtains Trump's tax records from 1985-1994 |
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New York Times: Tax documents show Trump businesses lost more than $1 billion in a decade
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's businesses reported losses of $1.17 billion from 1985 to 1994, The New York Times reported Tuesday, citing information from tax documents from those years.
It appears Trump lost more money than nearly any other individual US taxpayer year after year, the Times reports, according to the 10 years of tax information the newspaper acquired.
Trump ran for president branding himself as a self-made billionaire, touting his financial success, but he has been steadfast in his refusal to release his tax returns to the public, despite mounting pressure from Congress. On Monday, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin formally denied a request from the House Ways and Means Committee for Trump's last six years of tax returns, a period not covered by the documents reported by The Times on Tuesday.
In 1990 and 1991, Trump's core business losses were more than $250 million each year -- more than double those of the closest taxpayers in those years, the Times reports.
Trump lost so much money that he avoided paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years, according to the newspaper.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/07/politics/trump-tax-returns-losses/index.html
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TechDawgMc
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Posted: 05/08/19 12:18 am ::: |
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The dude lost money running a casino. That's pretty much all you need to know about his business prowess.
Seriously, one of the accounting faculty ran the time value of money numbers on what he inherited. If he'd invested the inheritance in the stock market across the DJ and just left it, he'd be richer now than he currently is. He's never been very good at business.
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Luuuc #NATC
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Posted: 05/08/19 1:10 am ::: |
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Seems like some people only appreciate the financial value of a deal and not the art of it. You can't put a price on great art.
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justintyme
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sambista
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Posted: 05/08/19 4:19 am ::: |
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you guys got me crackin' up.
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Genero36
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cthskzfn
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 12851 Location: In a world where a PSYCHOpath like Trump isn't potus.
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Posted: 05/08/19 9:40 am ::: |
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guy was born a crook.
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pilight
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 67127 Location: Where the action is
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Posted: 05/08/19 9:50 am ::: |
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Trump was saved from irrelevance by The Apprentice
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/07/how-mark-burnett-resurrected-donald-trump-as-an-icon-of-american-success
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During a 2004 panel at the Museum of Television and Radio, in Los Angeles, Trump claimed that “every network” had tried to get him to do a reality show, but he wasn’t interested: “I don’t want to have cameras all over my office, dealing with contractors, politicians, mobsters, and everyone else I have to deal with in my business. You know, mobsters don’t like, as they’re talking to me, having cameras all over the room. It would play well on television, but it doesn’t play well with them.”
“The Apprentice” portrayed Trump not as a skeezy hustler who huddles with local mobsters but as a plutocrat with impeccable business instincts and unparalleled wealth—a titan who always seemed to be climbing out of helicopters or into limousines. “Most of us knew he was a fake,” Braun told me. “He had just gone through I don’t know how many bankruptcies. But we made him out to be the most important person in the world. It was like making the court jester the king.” Bill Pruitt, another producer, recalled, “We walked through the offices and saw chipped furniture. We saw a crumbling empire at every turn. Our job was to make it seem otherwise.” |
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Howee
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Stonington_QB
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Posted: 05/09/19 11:32 am ::: |
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Awesome, it sounds like you all finally got what you wanted for the past 3 years. Does this mean you will all stop "demanding" he turn over his tax returns now?
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CamrnCrz1974
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18371 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: 05/09/19 1:25 pm ::: |
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Stonington_QB wrote: |
Awesome, it sounds like you all finally got what you wanted for the past 3 years. Does this mean you will all stop "demanding" he turn over his tax returns now? |
The tax returns referenced by The New York Times cover the period from 1985 through 1994. President Trump did not release them to the NYT; this was something the NYT unearthed.
The House Ways and Means Committee requested President Trump's last six years of tax returns. This request has been refused.
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PUmatty
Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 16385 Location: Chicago
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Posted: 05/09/19 2:27 pm ::: |
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CamrnCrz1974 wrote: |
Stonington_QB wrote: |
Awesome, it sounds like you all finally got what you wanted for the past 3 years. Does this mean you will all stop "demanding" he turn over his tax returns now? |
The tax returns referenced by The New York Times cover the period from 1985 through 1994. President Trump did not release them to the NYT; this was something the NYT unearthed.
The House Ways and Means Committee requested President Trump's last six years of tax returns. This request has been refused. |
And, to be clear, they aren't tax returns. They are summary records. There is a lot of information that tax returns would include that are not in these documents.
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Howee
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Posted: 05/09/19 11:56 pm ::: |
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A real go-getter, right? But Trump’s portfolio did not jibe with what I saw each day — which to a surprisingly large extent was him looking at fabric swatches. Indeed, flipping through fabric swatches seemed at times to be his main occupation. Some days he would do it for hours, then take me in what he always called his “French military helicopter” to Atlantic City — where he looked at more fabric swatches or sometimes small samples of wood paneling. It was true that the carpets and drapes at his properties needed to be refreshed frequently, and the seats on the renamed Trump Shuttle required occasional reupholstering. But the main thing about fabric swatches was that they were within his comfort zone — whereas, for example, managing hotels and airlines clearly wasn’t . One of his aides once told me that every room at the Plaza could be filled at the “rack rate” (list price) every night and the revenue still wouldn’t cover the monthly payment of the loan he’d taken out to buy the place. In other words, he’d made a ridiculous deal. Neither he nor the banks had done the math beforehand. Or perhaps Trump knew it, because someone had told him, but didn’t want to think about it. The one thing he is above-average at is compartmentalization.
On days when there were no broadlooms or chenilles to ponder, we would sit around his office and shoot the breeze while (as we now know) out there someplace in the real world, his businesses were hemorrhaging cash. He’d talk about the Yankees, show me pictures of Marla Maples (whom he was then romancing while still married to Ivana) and tell me obviously madeup stories, such as how he had just the other day seen a beautiful, completely naked woman on the street. “Put that in the book!” he’d say, and I’d pretend to write it down. |
....from the article jumped back into my brain tonight, as I watched PBS and heard Donald from a podium, spouting his bullshit on dealing with Iran.
This man, whose (self-proclaimed) wheelhouse is "business" >----< but bled an ocean of cash thanks to his incompetence is, yet again, duping The Deplorables, et.al., into believing he's even REMOTELY competent in negotiating foreign policy with nuclear antagonists???
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