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mavcarter #NATC
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Posted: 11/14/10 6:26 pm ::: Will the Kings leave Sacramento? |
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I have League Pass so I watch some Kings game when they play at Arco and the crowd doesn't even look 50% full. They're #24 in attendance with a average of 14,987. I wonder if they move to Kansas City will the Monarchs return?_________________
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ljohnverrell
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mozzie
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Posted: 11/14/10 6:44 pm ::: |
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Wasn't Stern talking about contraction? They look like they could be a candidate. Memphis never looks very full either.
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scullyfu
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BCBG25
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Posted: 11/14/10 11:02 pm ::: |
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I am all for the NBA returning to Seattle, but if the Kings are losing money in Sacramento, why the hell would they move to Seattle where they wouldn't even get a decent arena deal much less a new one built?
I don't know how hot the market is for NBA teams these days, but I would suppose most cities wouldn't be offering a WNBA franchise on the side to sweeten the pot.
An NBA contraction/lockout would not be good for the W, so let's hope it doesn't happen. The owners who handed out ridiculous contracts this summer hurt their cases in a potential labor dispute, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of them would offer their WNBA franchises as sacrificial lambs.
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PhoenixxLily I Voted
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Posted: 11/15/10 7:02 am ::: Re: Will the Kings leave Sacramento? |
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GEF34 wrote: |
ljohnverrell wrote: |
mavcarter wrote: |
http://www.inquisitr.com/90174/will-the-kings-leave-sacramento/
I have League Pass so I watch some Kings game when they play at Arco and the crowd doesn't even look 50% full. They're #24 in attendance with a average of 14,987. I wonder if they move to Kansas City will the Monarchs return? |
It worked good for Seattle.
I really miss the Monarchs. |
The situation is a little bit different, the Storm were already a team and just split up from the Supersonics, if the Monarchs returned it would be an expansion team, not an already established team in the league looking for an owner. |
would it still be considered an expansion team though? it was already a team..i'd think if it reappeared it would just be resuming its place |
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JohnyK
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Posted: 11/15/10 7:31 am ::: Re: Will the Kings leave Sacramento? |
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would it still be considered an expansion team though? it was already a team..i'd think if it reappeared it would just be resuming its place |
No one would reverse the dispersal draft nor would they cancel the contracts that former Monarchs players who were free agents signed with other teams. So yeah, they'd need a expansion draft otherwise that team would consist of players that weren't worthy of even sitting on everyone else's benches.
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BCBG25
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ClayK
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Posted: 11/15/10 10:42 am ::: |
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First, the attendance numbers are lies, so the Kings are actually drawing around 10,000 a game, if that. They have a bad, boring team, built around a young star that no one's really familiar with.
Second, Arco is dropping its naming rights in February or something, so the Maloofs are going to have to shop around for some kind of a deal there, for an arena that everyone agrees needs to be replaced. (Losing the Monarchs doesn't help that negotiation, though it's not a huge factor.)
Third, the NBA is hurting and there could well be a lockout next year, which if the past is any guide, will cut into attendance for several years thereafter.
So clearly the Kings are losing big bucks, and the future isn't bright, so the Maloofs have some unpleasant choices to make:
1) Sell the team (but who would buy it?)
2) Relocate the team (but where would it go?)
3) Get a new arena built (but what California taxpayer would vote for it?)
If there is contraction, then, I think the Kings are target No. 1. And if they contract, there's even less chance of a WNBA team ever returning to Sacramento.
That said, Joe Lacob finally took over as owner of the Warriors, so now he could, if interested, start thinking about a Bay Area WNBA franchise.
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GEF34
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Posted: 11/15/10 1:53 pm ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
Second, Arco is dropping its naming rights in February or something, so the Maloofs are going to have to shop around for some kind of a deal there, for an arena that everyone agrees needs to be replaced. (Losing the Monarchs doesn't help that negotiation, though it's not a huge factor.) |
Why is Arco dropping its name rights? Is it a bad relationship, or money issues?
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StevenHW
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PhoenixxLily I Voted
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Posted: 11/16/10 12:54 am ::: |
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How ironic that this discussion has come up; we're getting close to the one-year mark (Nov. 20) of the public announcement that the friggin' Maloofs' announced to fold the Monarchs. |
Karma?
and btw... what is this NBA lockout people keep talking about? |
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toad455
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Posted: 11/16/10 12:19 pm ::: |
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doesn't Stern want to contract a few teams(four I think) and then start up a European division. The Sacramento Kings should be on that list along with Memphis, Charlotte & Philadelphia.
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pilight
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Posted: 11/16/10 1:55 pm ::: |
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Furthermore, presenting this as a bargaining ploy shows his hand. Guess what? League contraction is not a collective bargaining issue. If the NBA Board of Governors (the owners) want to lose a team or two, they figure out the buy-out and player redistribution logistics. They don't need the union's permission. They don't need to settle it during the CBA talks. If Stern wants to kill the Kings, the union has no say.
This threat has no teeth. This crisis is devoid of relevance. And yes, as a matter of fact I will be writing about it for the next week. |
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2010/10/23/1770047/contraction-in-the-nba-no-chance |
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PhoenixxLily I Voted
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Posted: 11/16/10 10:42 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
LilyJadeRose wrote: |
StevenHW wrote: |
How ironic that this discussion has come up; we're getting close to the one-year mark (Nov. 20) of the public announcement that the friggin' Maloofs' announced to fold the Monarchs. |
Karma?
and btw... what is this NBA lockout people keep talking about? |
The NBA's collective bargaining agreement expires after this season. Most people expect the owners to lock the players out rather than continue under the old agreement while they negotiate. |
i'm showing my ignorance i know..but collective bargaining agreement? i don't understand. when i hear lock players out i literally think of locking them out of the arena. but, is this all about money? not wanting to pay them more money? |
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scullyfu
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JRae
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Posted: 11/21/10 6:08 pm ::: |
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one can only hope they leave....sorry still a bit bitter.
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