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PostPosted: 10/19/09 9:51 am    ::: Shock Moving to Tulsa, AP Claims Reply Reply with quote

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=8861546

A Detroit Shock official says the WNBA team is moving to Tulsa, Okla.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to The Associated Press on Monday because he was not authorized to make the announcement.

Detroit made its debut in the league in 1998 and won titles in 2008, 2006 and 2003. The Shock lost last month to the Indiana Fever in the Eastern Conference finals after rallying to earn a playoff spot.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:04 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Terrible news for Shock fans, but at least the Shock didn't fold. Tulsa should take good care of it.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:06 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

JumpMan23 wrote:
Terrible news for Shock fans, but at least the Shock didn't fold.




...and within the past five minutes they took down the renewal option for STH for next year.... Crying or Very sad I for one, no longer have a need to travel north of Big Beaver Road....Piston's who? PS&E what?


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Crying or Very sad End of an era for Detroit......


Glad there is still a place for the Shock players to be(hopefully). On the plus, they will be in a warmer place.....


Congrats to Tulsa for getting a franchise.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I wonder if the team will move to the Western Conference.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

major condolences to all the long-time shock sth's and supporters. Sad



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:13 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

It's a bad day for me professionally - I've been covering the Shock for AP since the first game - but a sadder day for my family. One of the ways that I bonded with my (now-)stepdaughter was by introducing her to the Shock. She liked basketball, but these were girls like her!

She's 14 now, and has discovered other interests, but she wore her Tweety jersey to school on Friday, and she was crushed when a high-ranking member of the Shock organization told me that the announcement would be either today or tomorrow.

It's a bad day for us, and let's not forget, a bad day for several people associated with the Shock. The person who confirmed the news put it this way:

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I've had some of my greatest days in sports in Detroit. Now I'm having the saddest.


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:20 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
I wonder if the team will move to the Western Conference.


I hope so!



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shit!


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shocked I can't believe it's actually happening!


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I feel for you Shock fans because I know how it feels to loose your team...It has got to be the worst feeling in the world.....The only consolation (if there is one) is at least the team isn't flat out folding! Sad



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

THis does SUCK and is so sad for all the Shock fans and frankly, the players too.
My heart goes out to all of you



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 10:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, here's what Tulsa is saying about it. Check out the comments section.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/default.aspx

Don't lock me out of this thread too. I just wasn't fast enough because I was talking to Computer Guy first before I talked with you guys.

I'm with ya Shock 6666--other than buying out what I can of Shock merchandise--no more Palace anything for me. It's strictly a business decision on my part Mrs. D. You'd understand if I don't attend any of your entertainment dates there right?


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

so sorry shock fans ...

i guess congrats tulsa ... nahh too soon ... ; (


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

smenko wrote:
Well, here's what Tulsa is saying about it. Check out the comments section.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/default.aspx

Don't lock me out of this thread too. I just wasn't fast enough because I was talking to Computer Guy first before I talked with you guys.

I'm with ya Shock 6666--other than buying out what I can of Shock merchandise--no more Palace anything for me. It's strictly a business decision on my part Mrs. D. You'd understand if I don't attend any of your entertainment dates there right?


I need a Shock jersey to wear opening night 2010.


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

such a shame. at least we're not losing the Shock completely. Now if we only knew if Atlanta was staying another year.

However, to be honest, if the Shock didn't win the championship in 2003, that probably would have been their last season.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:06 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm sorry for the Shock fans who supported and attended the teams' home games. I can remember as a tot following the Washington Senators baseball team after it's move to Texas, it was hard to let go.

I wonder if the move by the Shock to Tulsa will effect what happens with the Atlanta Dream (New Majority Owner or Dispersed).

I guess the Tulsa Shock will be in the WNBA Western Conference.


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The Shock took season ticket renewals, knowing they would be moving.

ATL isn't taking season ticket renewals...


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Slovydal wrote:
I need a Shock jersey to wear opening night 2010.


I may wear one myself.

I am SO sorry, Detroit.

I wanted a team badly, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy to finally hear there will be one, but getting one like this kills every urge I thought I'd have to dance in the streets.

We'll do our best to take care of them.


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Slovydal wrote:
The Shock took season ticket renewals, knowing they would be moving.


You can order 2010 Shock tickets now, if you want.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:16 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Thank you to all the people connected with the Shock organization for doing so much great work over the years. You too, Knighthawk Wink

Tulsa, you're getting a roster full of some of the best people in this or any other sport. Treat them well.

Honestly, as bad as I feel about this, I feel worse for the players and staff whose lives this complicates.


Congratulations, Ms. O. Your selective enforcement of rules and penalties finally confused and chased the casual fans away and you got what you wanted. FYI, people don't want to watch a sport where they're afraid someone on their team may get seriously and/or permanantly injured by someone who knows they won't be penalized.


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:26 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Slovydal wrote:
The Shock took season ticket renewals, knowing they would be moving.

ATL isn't taking season ticket renewals...



Karen Davidson did a lot of things this season knowing the team would be moving. I guess the final slap in the face is finding out this way. I don't know about any other STH out here...but I have approx $8,000 tied up in Season Tickets for the DETROIT Shock for next year. To find out about our team this way??? And still no word....and when you plan on returning the money you knew you took in bad faith to begin with?


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:33 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I am SO sorry, Detroit.

I wanted a team badly, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy to finally hear there will be one, but getting one like this kills every urge I thought I'd have to dance in the streets.

We'll do our best to take care of them.


nicely put, quester.

question: did tulsa have the requisite number of sth commitments? was it an easy or hard sell?



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
I wonder if the team will move to the Western Conference.


I hope the lynx are shifted over to the eastern conference. Easier travel to chicago and eastern teams out of minny.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:35 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Boy, losing your team to Oklahoma...something I know quite a bit about. The Shock fans certainly did not deserve this.

While I am glad we didn't see another team fold, I am crushed to see another championship city lose its team. I don't have a handle on how I really feel at this point.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm torn. Part of me is pissed as hell even though I've known about it for a long time, but part of me is happy that the team isn't folding all together and that some of the players can stick together.

My feelings towards Palace Sports & Entertainment is very shitty right now. They handled the entire situation without any thought towards the fans. The WNBA is struggling for it's life right now and to disregard the fans, especially for the two most susccessful franchises, isn't going to help their cause at all.




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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Happy to see another city try its best to have a team in the WNBA.

However, I'm never happy to hear of a city losing a team. My thoughts to all of you out in the Detroit area.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:39 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

scullyfu wrote:
question: did tulsa have the requisite number of sth commitments? was it an easy or hard sell?


I honestly don't know. The last number I heard was in the area of $65,000. I don't believe they've posted the actual number of seats sold.


edited to remove the word "sales". I remember hearing the number. not sure what it was in reference to.


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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I hate hearing this for Detroit fans, although I'm glad that the team didn't totally fold. I completely understand the growing pains of a beginning league, but damn if supporting the WNBA isn't like being in an emotionally abusive relationship.



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PostPosted: 10/19/09 11:44 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

i don't pretend to understand the market dynamic, but i'm so very confused about how a city like detroit can't support a w team but a place like tulsa (no offense) can. when you think tulsa, do you really think basketball?

then there's nyc, which should have robust team support - of the millions in the region, how hard is it to fill the garden to at least half? - but doesn't and, by all rights, should be at risk of being moved. except for the fact that nyc is wnba hq.

then you've got l.a., which has more ostensible talent than any other team, bigtime celebrity support, a fuzzy salary cap, legitimate playoff runs, and attendance is atrocious. and nobody's talking about moving l.a., even though the bay area might show a w team some real love.

a level playing field? i think not. or is the equation simply one-sided - regardless of fan support, the key is who's willing to financially support it? i have my doubts about that kind of business model.



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