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 Posted: 07/17/09 6:41 pm ::: WNBA in Tulsa? (Again?) |
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A WNBA franchise might be coming to Tulsa
By MIKE STRAIN World Sports Editor
Published: 7/17/2009 6:02 PM
Last Modified: 7/17/2009 6:35 PM
A group of investors from Oklahoma City and Tulsa are expected to have a press conference Wednesday announcing an effort to bring a team from the Women’s National Basketball Association to Tulsa, according to a source familiar with the situation.
WNBA commissioner Donna Orender is expected to attend a press conference that will reveal investors and the remaining issues they face in bringing a team to Tulsa, the source said. |
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| Posted: 07/17/09 6:55 pm ::: |
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| Any insiders? How likely is this to go down? |
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| Posted: 07/17/09 7:12 pm ::: |
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| doubt we'll be seeing any involvement by clay bennett and his pack of homophobes.
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| Posted: 07/17/09 10:23 pm ::: |
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| Who has a press conference to talk about their business "issues"? Odd.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 1:26 am ::: |
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| The Big XII consistently leads the nation in attendence. I think this is a market worth pursuing. I wish them luck.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 12:58 pm ::: |
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| scullyfu wrote: |
| doubt we'll be seeing any involvement by clay bennett and his pack of homophobes. |
looks like i was wrong:
Cameron, the president and CEO of American Fidelity Assurance Co., is part of an Oklahoma City-based group
that owns the NBA’s Oklahoma City Thunder.
and does this woman even know wtf she's saying half the time?:
“If the investors choose to bring a franchise to Oklahoma I think it would be absolutely phenomenal,” said ESPN women’s basketball analyst Nancy Lieberman. “Oklahoma is passionate about sports, they are avid sports fans. I think it would be a great partnership. If the (Oklahoma City) Thunder are involved, that’s pretty good franchise right there.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 1:11 pm ::: |
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Homophobes and WBB DO mix, there is ample evidence of that.
I'd like to see the 11-player roster go away before expansion.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 2:41 pm ::: |
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| If so, then I hope it'll be a relocation not an expansion. |
Why? I think, like a fan of wnba, that the league will be more interesting if there are more clubs. In this way, there'll be more competitiveness to reach Playoffs and there'll be more games.
Are there any problems i didn't think about?
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| Posted: 07/18/09 2:44 pm ::: |
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| moleman wrote: |
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| If so, then I hope it'll be a relocation not an expansion. |
Why? I think, like a fan of wnba, that the league will be more interesting if there are more clubs. In this way, there'll be more competitiveness to reach Playoffs and there'll be more games.
Are there any problems i didn't think about? |
Because there are several teams that could fold. Detroit is the biggest issue here. Rumor out of Indiana is, if they don't win the championship this year, they're folding. Chicago always has such a small attendance, though I don't know if they're in danger of folding or not. Minnesota has been rumored as well.
I would prefer a relocation over one folding and another expansion.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 2:57 pm ::: |
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| With Minnesota, that is all it is-a rumor. Minnesota will not fold unless the TimberWolves fold. What you are hearing are people expecting the Lynx to fold because of average attendance and the non playoff factor. But the owner has committed to both the Wolves and the Lynx for the long haul.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 3:11 pm ::: |
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Because there are several teams that could fold. Detroit is the biggest issue here. Rumor out of Indiana is, if they don't win the championship this year, they're folding. Chicago always has such a small attendance, though I don't know if they're in danger of folding or not. Minnesota has been rumored as well.
I would prefer a relocation over one folding and another expansion. |
When you talked about Detroit (in the previous post) i supposed you're thinking about money problems of many clubs.
If that's the situation, i agree with your opinion...but, maybe, the league has to understand if expansion could bring more money in the wnba (do you think is hard it happens?)
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| Posted: 07/18/09 3:36 pm ::: |
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Because there are several teams that could fold. Detroit is the biggest issue here. Rumor out of Indiana is, if they don't win the championship this year, they're folding. Chicago always has such a small attendance, though I don't know if they're in danger of folding or not. Minnesota has been rumored as well.
I would prefer a relocation over one folding and another expansion. |
When you talked about Detroit (in the previous post) i supposed you're thinking about money problems of many clubs.
If that's the situation, i agree with your opinion...but, maybe, the league has to understand if expansion could bring more money in the wnba (do you think is hard it happens?) |
It doesn't make a single difference if you have a new expansion, but another team folds. We've already lost Houston, who won the WNBA's first four championships. I don't want to also lose Detroit, and another three WNBA championships. I don't like Detroit, but I want them to survive. I would prefer them relocate to Tulsa than fold and a new franchise be formed.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 3:39 pm ::: |
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It doesn't make a single difference if you have a new expansion, but another team folds. We've already lost Houston, who won the WNBA's first four championships. I don't want to also lose Detroit, and another three WNBA championships. I don't like Detroit, but I want them to survive. I would prefer them relocate to Tulsa than fold and a new franchise be formed. |
Ok, now i understand. And i agree with you 100%
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| Posted: 07/18/09 5:12 pm ::: |
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Homophobes and WBB DO mix, there is ample evidence of that.
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have you forgotten that clayclay's pal came right out publicly and announced that 'we don't want *those* kind of women...'? that's what i'm talking about; not the negative recruiting type. this guy just flat out said 'those women' and i don't think it takes a lot of brain power to figure out what he meant.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 5:19 pm ::: |
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| moleman wrote: |
| braveniler58 wrote: |
| If so, then I hope it'll be a relocation not an expansion. |
Why? I think, like a fan of wnba, that the league will be more interesting if there are more clubs. In this way, there'll be more competitiveness to reach Playoffs and there'll be more games.
Are there any problems i didn't think about? |
because the more teams you add, the more you dilute the talent pool. the current talent pool is not deep enough that it can stand diluting.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 6:18 pm ::: |
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| scullyfu wrote: |
| moleman wrote: |
| braveniler58 wrote: |
| If so, then I hope it'll be a relocation not an expansion. |
Why? I think, like a fan of wnba, that the league will be more interesting if there are more clubs. In this way, there'll be more competitiveness to reach Playoffs and there'll be more games.
Are there any problems i didn't think about? |
because the more teams you add, the more you dilute the talent pool. the current talent pool is not deep enough that it can stand diluting. |
That's an overrated argument.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 6:29 pm ::: |
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I also think that there would probably be enough talent for a 14 team league.
Fifteen would definitely be too many, but 14 is good, I believe.
Think about last season. Who was untalented? The Mystics, basically.
Hell, the Dream were talented, they just had a moronic coach.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 6:39 pm ::: |
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I also think that there would probably be enough talent for a 14 team league.
Fifteen would definitely be too many, but 14 is good, I believe.
Think about last season. Who was untalented? The Mystics, basically.
Hell, the Dream were talented, they just had a moronic coach. |
I think the WNBA can honestly be good with 16 teams. It's just sometimes the GMs are dumb, thus keeping players like Wyckoff, Robinson and Spencer around...
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| Posted: 07/18/09 6:44 pm ::: |
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| I think the WNBA can honestly be good with 16 teams. It's just sometimes the GMs are dumb, thus keeping players like Wyckoff, Robinson and Spencer around... |
That's the main issue--individual GMs. Some teams look as though they can support 12 or more players while others look like they can only support six. That's not going to change through expansion, especially if teams can protect more than two players. The only way to see if the league truly could support more than 14 teams is by redistributing the talent. This way, LA doesn't have five Beijing Olympians while NY has at least one.
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| Posted: 07/18/09 6:52 pm ::: |
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| I don't think every team needs 5 or 6 stars. 3 will suffice. If you fill in the rest of the roster intelligently, and have a good coaching staff, you've got a good team. So yeah, I think the current pool could support at least 14-16 teams.
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