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PostPosted: 03/10/20 6:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Talking about an "AR-14" (a thing that does not exist) then flatly lying about saying he would put Beto O'Rourke in charge of gun policy is most definitely a gaffe

Calling it an AR-14 instead of a 15 is hardly a gaffe. And where are you getting that he lied about saying he would put Beto in charge of gun policy? The guy mentioned that, but Biden never really responded. He just returned to the idea that making assault rifles illegal is not the same as opposing the 2nd amendment, that all amendments give room for reasonable regulation (like shouting fire, or not owning machine guns).

Seriously, the people this exchange will turn off are people who already aren't going to vote for him and he has no realistic chance of convincing otherwise.

His biggest problem here is the same as it's always been; Biden's not a smooth off-the-cuff speaker, so while you can parse what he is trying to say, it's kind of all over the place. But I have a hard time calling that a gaffe, as that's just who he is.



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PostPosted: 03/10/20 6:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
pilight wrote:
Talking about an "AR-14" (a thing that does not exist) then flatly lying about saying he would put Beto O'Rourke in charge of gun policy is most definitely a gaffe

Calling it an AR-14 instead of a 15 is hardly a gaffe. And where are you getting that he lied about saying he would put Beto in charge of gun policy? The guy mentioned that, but Biden never really responded. He just returned to the idea that making assault rifles illegal is not the same as opposing the 2nd amendment, that all amendments give room for reasonable regulation (like shouting fire, or not owning machine guns).

Seriously, the people this exchange will turn off are people who already aren't going to vote for him and he has no realistic chance of convincing otherwise.

His biggest problem here is the same as it's always been; Biden's not a smooth off-the-cuff speaker, so while you can parse what he is trying to say, it's kind of all over the place. But I have a hard time calling that a gaffe, as that's just who he is.


He is a gaffe. On that we can agree.



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PostPosted: 03/10/20 8:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

jammerbirdi wrote:


He is a gaffe. On that we can agree.

Haha. Pretty much, yes

He can be reliably counted on to stumble over his words or ramble on in some less-than-coherent fashion. He's very Bush the Second in that way.

It's what scares me about his chances as a candidate.

But this same point made with the same colorful language is a politically sound strategy. Ideally he just would have done it without the rambling and spoken more fluidly...or in other words, he would have been someone other than himself.



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PostPosted: 03/10/20 8:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Someone other than himself sounds like exactly the type of person I could vote for!

(were I actually eligible to vote)



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PostPosted: 03/10/20 9:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

justintyme wrote:
pilight wrote:
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1237403481314598918?s=21

Biden said:

- “You are full of shit”
- “Don’t be a horses ass”
- “An AR is a machine gun!”
- "I'm not working for you"


Way to persuade those voters, Joe

That wasn't a gaffe. Biden's own team has been sharing the link to that video.

The guy he was getting into it with was obviously never going to vote for him (or for any Democrat), and as a white male he can say things like that without stereotypes being used against him. Now there's a viral video plus tons of media coverage of him forcefully answering one of the GOPs major talking points to appeal to potential swing voters, while him answering a Trump voter's BS forcefully will appeal to the left and those who might be questioning whether he will let Trump walk all over him.

My guess is this response was not unplanned. Not that it would necessarily be this specific guy, or at this specific event, or about this specific question, but rather just a general plan on how to respond and with what tone to frame it when someone inevitably approached him like this.


I agree . . . in this instance. But his tongue and lips are still likely to hurt him more than help him, as they have all his career outside of Delaware.
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PostPosted: 03/25/20 4:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

https://deadline.com/2020/03/joe-biden-gaffe-alert-stuns-the-view-by-claiming-coronavirus-cure-will-make-the-problem-worse-1202891856/

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“Are you at all concerned, as Trump said, that we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself?” Haines asked.

Biden noted in his reply that the COVID-19 cure “will make the problem worse, no matter what.”



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PostPosted: 03/25/20 6:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
https://deadline.com/2020/03/joe-biden-gaffe-alert-stuns-the-view-by-claiming-coronavirus-cure-will-make-the-problem-worse-1202891856/

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“Are you at all concerned, as Trump said, that we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself?” Haines asked.

Biden noted in his reply that the COVID-19 cure “will make the problem worse, no matter what.”


I digress. I mean agree. The green grass. The grass needs mowed! Applesauce.



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PostPosted: 03/25/20 6:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Saw an article that claims some Democrats are talking about somehow getting Cuomo selected at the convention.

Biden does best when the setting is large. But it occurs to me that the convention could be canceled or done in an online fashion.


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PostPosted: 03/26/20 2:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

jammerbirdi wrote:
pilight wrote:
https://deadline.com/2020/03/joe-biden-gaffe-alert-stuns-the-view-by-claiming-coronavirus-cure-will-make-the-problem-worse-1202891856/

Quote:
“Are you at all concerned, as Trump said, that we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself?” Haines asked.

Biden noted in his reply that the COVID-19 cure “will make the problem worse, no matter what.”


I digress. I mean agree. The green grass. The grass needs mowed! Applesauce.


America..

has Harris, Castro, Booker, Gillibrand, Warren, Klobachar...all fantastic accomplished politicians to choose from..

America...

we'll take the old dudes.



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PostPosted: 03/26/20 4:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mercfan3 wrote:
jammerbirdi wrote:
pilight wrote:
https://deadline.com/2020/03/joe-biden-gaffe-alert-stuns-the-view-by-claiming-coronavirus-cure-will-make-the-problem-worse-1202891856/

Quote:
“Are you at all concerned, as Trump said, that we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself?” Haines asked.

Biden noted in his reply that the COVID-19 cure “will make the problem worse, no matter what.”


I digress. I mean agree. The green grass. The grass needs mowed! Applesauce.


America..

has Harris, Castro, Booker, Gillibrand, Warren, Klobachar...all fantastic accomplished politicians to choose from..

America...

we'll take the old dudes.


THIS is most discouraging in its truth and reality.



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