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jap

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Final Sparks Scoring
D. Milton 40:00 MIN 15 PTs 6 RBs 3 AST 1 STs 1 BSs 2 TOs
C. Parker 34:02 MIN 24 PTs 10 RBs 1 AST 2 STs 0 BSs 2 TOs
L. Leslie 33:05 MIN 14 PTs 10 RBs 1 AST 2 STs 1 BSs 6 TOs
M. F.-Harris 22:26 MIN 7 PTs 5 RBs 0 AST 3 STs 0 BSs 1 TOs
S. Bobbitt 31:41 MIN 6 PTs 4 RBs 7 AST 1 STs 0 BSs 3 TOs
R. Masciadri 18:21 MIN 6 PTs 4 RBs 0 AST 1 STs 0 BSs 1 TOs
J. Moore 09:57 MIN 1 PTs 2 RBs 1 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
A. Jacobs 04:23 MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 1 TOs
K. Brown 03:56 MIN 2 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
S. Spencer 02:08 MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
M. Page DNP MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
C. Thomas DNP MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
T. Johnson DNP MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
Lisa and Candy with their 11th double doubles.
Shannon with a new personal best 7 assists.
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| wtf was that little play for the ball by Marie from Becky as time was running out....think there is some bad feelings from Marie to the SASS??? |
lol... I thought Becky's pass to Maries butt at the end was funny. |
SayTownSpurs..."What happened? I walked outta the room disgusted and missed it"
Marie tried to steal the ball from Becky as she brought it up so as time ended Becky threw the ball at Marie's Butt as she walked away
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Whew the more aggressive team won but neither team looked that good.
I disagree about the Stars with you SayT, they never gave up but it wasn't going their way tonight. They were trying but the defence wasn't really there nor the rebounding and looked like the Sharks plan was to stop Sophia and they did.
She was working hard but not that smart, shoulda took some jumpers not just barge into the bigs of LA.
But keep your heads up Stars. You can't win every game, but hopefully we will win tomorrow.
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Congratulations to:
Edwige Lawson-Wade, for grabbing the Silver Stars' lone offensive rebound of the contest and preventing them from becoming the second team in WNBA history to be shut out in that category (Houston vs. Phoenix, July 27, 2006)...
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Congratulations to:
Edwige Lawson-Wade, for grabbing the Silver Stars' lone offensive rebound of the contest and preventing them from becoming the second team in WNBA history to be shut out in that category (Houston vs. Phoenix, July 27, 2006)... |
Comets still won that game guess it was the 26 defensive rbs that saved them that game.
This game Sparks had 41, and that won them the game.
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| jap wrote: |
Final Sparks Scoring
D. Milton 40:00 MIN 15 PTs 6 RBs 3 AST 1 STs 1 BSs 2 TOs
C. Parker 34:02 MIN 24 PTs 10 RBs 1 AST 2 STs 0 BSs 2 TOs
L. Leslie 33:05 MIN 14 PTs 10 RBs 1 AST 2 STs 1 BSs 6 TOs
M. F.-Harris 22:26 MIN 7 PTs 5 RBs 0 AST 3 STs 0 BSs 1 TOs
S. Bobbitt 31:41 MIN 6 PTs 4 RBs 7 AST 1 STs 0 BSs 3 TOs
R. Masciadri 18:21 MIN 6 PTs 4 RBs 0 AST 1 STs 0 BSs 1 TOs
J. Moore 09:57 MIN 1 PTs 2 RBs 1 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
A. Jacobs 04:23 MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 1 TOs
K. Brown 03:56 MIN 2 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
S. Spencer 02:08 MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
M. Page DNP MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
C. Thomas DNP MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
T. Johnson DNP MIN 0 PTs 0 RBs 0 AST 0 STs 0 BSs 0 TOs
Lisa and Candy with their 11th double doubles.
Shannon with a new personal best 7 assists. |
Does any1 know why Delisha is playing 40 mins and she's coming off an injury? This is why Coop makes me mad! His rotation is horrible! I know Syd's D is suspect but 2mins? Coop doesnt utilize his bench like he should. Having LLL,CP3 and DMJ (with that wingspan) shld allow our shooters (Syd n Masch) 2 get open shots. Syd shld b playing 10-15 mins a game, and if Coop knew how to coach he would utilize her @ the 3 more and let DMJ/Parker get more rest. Toward the end of the 3rd 2nite, instead of coming off the bech with JMo, I felt he couldve replaced LLL with Spencer instead and went with a line-up of CP3/DMJ/Spencer/Masch/Brown and been more effective. But who am I?? We have the best frontcourt in the league and the best shooter in the league, there's know reason he shldnt try 2 utilize it...That's all im saying!
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| Does any1 know why Delisha is playing 40 mins and she's coming off an injury? This is why Coop makes me mad! His rotation is horrible! I know Syd's D is suspect but 2mins? Coop doesnt utilize his bench like he should. Having LLL,CP3 and DMJ (with that wingspan) shld allow our shooters (Syd n Masch) 2 get open shots. Syd shld b playing 10-15 mins a game, and if Coop knew how to coach he would utilize her @ the 3 more and let DMJ/Parker get more rest. Toward the end of the 3rd 2nite, instead of coming off the bech with JMo, I felt he couldve replaced LLL with Spencer instead and went with a line-up of CP3/DMJ/Spencer/Masch/Brown and been more effective. But who am I?? We have the best frontcourt in the league and the best shooter in the league, there's know reason he shldnt try 2 utilize it...That's all im saying! |
I dunno. Delisha missed a few games with that inflamed Achilles' heel tendon so she may have been deemed relatively fresh. And you really don't want my girl Sophia getting in any kind of a rhythm so trying to blanket her with 'Lisha isn't a bad idea. For all we know 'Lisha may have requested the extra time since this was deemed a MUST WIN situation.
Sidney has improved her rebounding, and she actually managed to force a charging call recently. However, she lacks the sheer foot/hand quickness of Delisha on defense, and Sophia is one of the quickest forwards in the game.
I wanna see how the Sparks are gonna defense Dee and Cappie on Thursday night. If the Sparks want any chance at the playoffs, much less a championship, they have to pick up their D.
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Posted: 07/15/08 12:58 am ::: |
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| They'll bounce back, have some faith!!!! |
I have faith. I always try to have faith in my team.
CB, I definately understand what you're saying. But I didn't see us running hard enough to get those long rebounds or boxing out much at all. You would think, that since nearly every game we've been out rebounded, that we'd try extra hard to come up with every rebound. It didn't look like that. We'd get into a bad habit of just watching the ball, even for just half a second, and that was enough for LA to get position to get the board. We were out rebounded by 17, both on the offensive glass and overall! There's no excuse to be out rebounded by that much. And I don't think we showed much effort in crashing the boards, but that's just me_________________
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Well it wasn't text book execution on offense for the Sparks, at least there was energy on the defensive end of the court and they pounded San Antonio on the offensive boards.
I still don't like the "point guard by committee" thing. Bobbitt is the starter, yet both Jacobs and Brown saw time there tonight as well. As someone said earlier in this thread, Spencer got two minutes. My question is why are 3 point guards who aren't good outside shooters getting time when this team needs someone to pop 3's to open things up inside for Lisa, Candace and DeLisha? Masciadri wasn't hitting tonight so why not play Spencer? I wish Marta Fernandez was on the team this year.
Yet despite all of that, I'll take the win over the Silver Stars. This team needed this win tonight over the top team in the West. Holding Sophia to 1 basket was huge. San Antonio is a very solid and very good team. However, if they're going to make noise again in the playoffs like they did last year, they have to get on the boards. Wauters came into the game tonight averaging 7.5 rebounds a game, which leads the team. Sophia is next at 5.7. She has the ability to be at least a 7 rebound a game player.
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| Does any1 know why Delisha is playing 40 mins and she's coming off an injury? This is why Coop makes me mad! His rotation is horrible! I know Syd's D is suspect but 2mins? Coop doesnt utilize his bench like he should. Having LLL,CP3 and DMJ (with that wingspan) shld allow our shooters (Syd n Masch) 2 get open shots. Syd shld b playing 10-15 mins a game, and if Coop knew how to coach he would utilize her @ the 3 more and let DMJ/Parker get more rest. Toward the end of the 3rd 2nite, instead of coming off the bech with JMo, I felt he couldve replaced LLL with Spencer instead and went with a line-up of CP3/DMJ/Spencer/Masch/Brown and been more effective. But who am I?? We have the best frontcourt in the league and the best shooter in the league, there's know reason he shldnt try 2 utilize it...That's all im saying! |
If you can figure out Cooper's rotations and sub patterns, me and the rest of the people in my section would love to know.
Besides Sid going from 21 minutes the other night (and doing well) to 2:08 tonight, I can't figure out why no one's mentioned the disappearance of Brown. She's been getting four minutes a game for the last two weeks. She was in street clothes for the Sac game. Granted she's not as fast as Bobbitt, but she's a good player, and she's got a great outside shot. I had wondered all along why she wasn't a 2, and I'm still wondering. I'd love to see Bobbitt at point, Brown at 2, Milton-Jones at 3, and CP and LL down low.
Especially when you see LL struggling, as she has for the last 5-6 games, why not put Spencer in? At least she doesn't get the ball stripped out of her hands and/or drop it like LL has been doing. Don't let the box score fool you; LL worked and struggled for every one of the points she got. She even missed her first two FTs.
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| I've been saying for awhile now that DMJ is outstanding defensively and has not lost a whole lot, if anything, athletically. If her defense on Young in this game has not been an indicator of just how good she is in both those areas, I don't know what could possibly be. |
DMJ has been inconsistent all season both offensively and defensively. This was one of her better games.
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| I've been saying for awhile now that DMJ is outstanding defensively and has not lost a whole lot, if anything, athletically. If her defense on Young in this game has not been an indicator of just how good she is in both those areas, I don't know what could possibly be. |
DMJ has been inconsistent all season both offensively and defensively. This was one of her better games. |
We could debate her defense all day....since it is subjective....suffice it to say I have a different opinion. I'll just say that she usually is guarding an important offensive player, and usually makes their life difficult. Guarding other team's top players, there will be games where great players score on anybody, even top defenders. Against Sacramento, LA's defense collapsed when she went to the bench in foul trouble.
As for her offense, she has scored double digit points in 15 of her 19 games, and shot at or over 50% in 11 of 19 games. As a third option in the offense, I would say she has been very consistent.
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Posted: 07/15/08 11:44 am ::: |
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| The Sparks owners are into this game. |
The Sparks owners are into all the games. They're always there.
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| Does any1 know why Delisha is playing 40 mins and she's coming off an injury? This is why Coop makes me mad! His rotation is horrible! I know Syd's D is suspect but 2mins? Coop doesnt utilize his bench like he should. Having LLL,CP3 and DMJ (with that wingspan) shld allow our shooters (Syd n Masch) 2 get open shots. Syd shld b playing 10-15 mins a game, and if Coop knew how to coach he would utilize her @ the 3 more and let DMJ/Parker get more rest. Toward the end of the 3rd 2nite, instead of coming off the bech with JMo, I felt he couldve replaced LLL with Spencer instead and went with a line-up of CP3/DMJ/Spencer/Masch/Brown and been more effective. But who am I?? We have the best frontcourt in the league and the best shooter in the league, there's know reason he shldnt try 2 utilize it...That's all im saying! |
You're overreacting hangtyme. They were a bit thin in the post rotation last night because C. Thomas was not suited up. So basically, the only post player coming off the bench was Jessica Moore. Sidney I think would've been a liability out there. She's been inconsistent with her three all season. Some nights, she can't miss, other's, shes' stone cold.
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Whats going on with my LSU girls Marie and TJ.
TJ must really be down about her grandmother passing. |
Actually, we were told her grandmother just passed yesterday. Perhaps she left early knowing that fact. In all cases, I wish her the best.
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Posted: 07/15/08 11:54 am ::: |
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| CRASH wrote: |
| They'll bounce back, have some faith!!!! |
I have faith. I always try to have faith in my team.
CB, I definately understand what you're saying. But I didn't see us running hard enough to get those long rebounds or boxing out much at all. You would think, that since nearly every game we've been out rebounded, that we'd try extra hard to come up with every rebound. It didn't look like that. We'd get into a bad habit of just watching the ball, even for just half a second, and that was enough for LA to get position to get the board. We were out rebounded by 17, both on the offensive glass and overall! There's no excuse to be out rebounded by that much. And I don't think we showed much effort in crashing the boards, but that's just me |
I think Riley being in foul trouble didn't help. Outside of Wauters, San Antonio is really not a very big team at all so I think that is a big reason they were outrebounded, plus, you have two of the best rebounders in the league to go against, I think it was bound to happen.
I thought SASS played really hard the entire game. But L.A. was very determined on the defensive end and even when they had some slow spots in terms of their offense, they did not back down defensively. Now, I wish I saw a lot more of that before.
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| I've been saying for awhile now that DMJ is outstanding defensively and has not lost a whole lot, if anything, athletically. If her defense on Young in this game has not been an indicator of just how good she is in both those areas, I don't know what could possibly be. |
DMJ has been inconsistent all season both offensively and defensively. This was one of her better games. |
We could debate her defense all day....since it is subjective....suffice it to say I have a different opinion. I'll just say that she usually is guarding an important offensive player, and usually makes their life difficult. Guarding other team's top players, there will be games where great players score on anybody, even top defenders. Against Sacramento, LA's defense collapsed when she went to the bench in foul trouble.
As for her offense, she has scored double digit points in 15 of her 19 games, and shot at or over 50% in 11 of 19 games. As a third option in the offense, I would say she has been very consistent. |
I understand, you have a different opinion and I respect that. I have been to almost all the home games however, and she hasn't been spot on. But I feel that she has gotten better as the season has progressed. We need her as that third option if we have any chance in the post-season.
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| wtf was that little play for the ball by Marie from Becky as time was running out....think there is some bad feelings from Marie to the SASS??? |
lol... I thought Becky's pass to Maries butt at the end was funny. |
SayTownSpurs..."What happened? I walked outta the room disgusted and missed it"
Marie tried to steal the ball from Becky as she brought it up so as time ended Becky threw the ball at Marie's Butt as she walked away |
They must be friends 'cause Marie doesn't look like the type of gal you want to messin' with. Marie's calves look so strong it seems as though if she plants her feet she can stop the rotation of the earth.  |
I dont know if theyre friends but its still a classless thing to do. I mean your up big with a few seconds left. The Sparks just got a steal and hoop a few seconds earlier to add insult to injury. Theres no need for that.
Ferdinand is sort of a pesty/show-off/non proffessional type player. The Sparks have a few of those. Ive seen her a few times slam the ball down hard after getting fouled. And the fouls werent that bad, but she I guess doesnt like getting touched or something. Bobbitt is very talented, I really would like to root for her, but my god is she immature. And Candace talks/complains too much for a rookie. Why is a rookie telling the veterans where to go or to pass the ball on offense? |
Because she's that damn good. And no matter how much experience you have communication is a big part of basketball, without it there's no chemistry so of course when a teammate is out of place or something she's going to fix it, its called being a good teammate. Being a rookie has nothing to do with that..._________________ www.myspace.com/dtp_3
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I dont know if theyre friends but its still a classless thing to do. I mean your up big with a few seconds left. The Sparks just got a steal and hoop a few seconds earlier to add insult to injury. Theres no need for that.
Ferdinand is sort of a pesty/show-off/non proffessional type player. The Sparks have a few of those. Ive seen her a few times slam the ball down hard after getting fouled. And the fouls werent that bad, but she I guess doesnt like getting touched or something. Bobbitt is very talented, I really would like to root for her, but my god is she immature. And Candace talks/complains too much for a rookie. Why is a rookie telling the veterans where to go or to pass the ball on offense? |
Are you sure you are not reading things into Marie's behavior?
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Lisa Leslie had Ruth's number last night. Now, I know Ruth is a foul magnet anyway, she's like the Penny Taylor of the Stars, but this was crazy. Yeah, Lisa plays dirty sometimes, digging the elbow into the chest, goading her into fouls, pushing off and making it look like she was the one being pushed. But c'mon. Ruth's been in the league long enough to know how she plays and to come up with some kind of answer. She played in Detroit for cryin' out loud. She's got to have some tricks up her sleeve as well.
Good news for SASS, even though not much was going right for them, they were still in the game well into the fourth quarter. Things can't be that bad every night.
Also, what is it with former Liberty players coming to San Antonio and going supernova all of a sudden. This particular game wasn't the best example, but I don't remember Wauters playing with such aggressiveness and consistency when she was with New York.
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Lisa Leslie had Ruth's number last night. Now, I know Ruth is a foul magnet anyway, she's like the Penny Taylor of the Stars, but this was crazy. Yeah, Lisa plays dirty sometimes, digging the elbow into the chest, goading her into fouls, pushing off and making it look like she was the one being pushed. But c'mon. Ruth's been in the league long enough to know how she plays and to come up with some kind of answer. She played in Detroit for cryin' out loud. She's got to have some tricks up her sleeve as well.
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I was at the game last night and I don't recall Lisa being "dirty" with Ruth. In fact, I think Wauters was the one was a bit dirty smacking Lisa and then acting as if an elbow was being thrown her way.
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