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BCBG25
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kwnyc
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Posted: 06/26/08 10:43 pm ::: |
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Holy cow! That was exhausting! We were glad the game started at 7 because we thought we'd get home early. Ha! We got in around 11pm...totally drained. That was one hard game to watch; at first it seemed like the Libs would completely fall out of it in the second half, then they came back. And in each overtime, they would get a little bit ahead...then Indy came back.
It was an epic battle, and Indy certainly goes home on their shields. Queenie came over and sat by us, and we had a good time chatting & cursing. One of our favorite people in our section was leaving for South Carolina, and won't be back 'til September, and we told her the Libs didn't want her to go.
Kraay didn't get into double figures 'til the OT, but boy did they count then. She was one board away from a double double. Essence played the best she's played so far, each game continuing to improve. Willis did a good job as an early substitute, so of course we never saw her again. Nor AB, though even Patty can't keep Tiffany out of the game.
I'm tiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrred now.
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overandback
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 675 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: 06/26/08 10:51 pm ::: |
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We got back at 11 too, totally wiped out, with post-screaming headaches. I'm trying to imagine how Shameka feels right now. 51 minutes and she was the one who finally put the game away. I'm not sure there's enough ice at the Garden, or in New York.
Hell of a game. Good night.
eta: The dot-com is having a two-day sale on Fever/Liberty stuff. Oddly they only have Christon and Carson jerseys. Still, a nice opportunity to commemorate the epic battle.
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NYL_WNBA_FAN
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Posted: 06/26/08 10:52 pm ::: |
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What a wonderful basketball game. Would have been a great game regardless of the outcome, but the win showed a lot of character. True playoff feel to it. Please let this carry over into equivalent confidence and execution on the road.
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jersey_stupka
Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 3195 Location: Outer loop of the Capital Beltway heading towards the new National Zoo
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JayhawkNYC
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jersey_stupka
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BCBG25
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jersey_stupka
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Posted: 06/26/08 11:04 pm ::: |
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what a game!!!!
Fun to see two Indy players foul out...Ebony and Tamikaze...MSG does love to sing these Hit the Road Jack to opposing teams...lmao...
too bad Mutton Brown was not eliminated too...
new yawk, new yawk...you played awful and yet you played brilliantly...and you gutted out the win...I HEART Essence Carson...JMac, Kraay, Meka...you got it done...
man, tgif...
C Ya Libbies!!!
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NYL_WNBA_FAN
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Posted: 06/26/08 11:32 pm ::: |
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Thrill...when you said pre-season how Hoffman would be improved this year, boy were you spot-on with that one. She was just unbelievable tonight. And she nailed 3 of 4 from behind the arc. Looks like she is getting even better.
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sgbur22
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Posted: 06/26/08 11:39 pm ::: |
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if Hoffman can keep hitting that three. she will be Natalie Williams 2.0
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bullsky
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Posted: 06/26/08 11:41 pm ::: |
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sgbur22 wrote: |
if Hoffman can keep hitting that three. she will be Natalie Williams 2.0 |
Maybe quicker.
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sgbur22
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Queenie
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18031 Location: Queens
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Posted: 06/27/08 12:09 am ::: |
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Oh my God, that was epic. That was dramatic. That was- I hope a lot of people caught this while channel-surfing during the draft, because, damn, that there was a lot of basketball. I'm exhausted, and I don't even want to think about what kind of state the starters are in for both teams.
I thought it was a bad sign when my train ride started out full of crazy- we had one guy loudly inveighing on the way people talk really loudly on trains, and after he called me a blimp, one woman started screaming at him to get off the train… and then went on her own little rant about how he thought he was entitled because he was a white American man. So that was fun like a thing that's not fun.
But then the Fever were very nice- that's one thing I'll say for them, that franchise does treat folks with class- and I got to hear Katie Douglas let out a completely frickin' random primal scream/war whoop during shootaround, so that was awesome. I gambled that security wouldn't give me agita because ESPN would want seats down near the court full, so I sat behind Ali (who, in case you don't know her, sits right over by the Liberty bench- right behind Hirsh.com's usual spot, in fact) until the actual ticketholder showed up in the second quarter, at which point I headed up to hang with kw, Mrs. kw, and auntie. That was fun. I miss my old neighbors.
Ebony Hoffman is impressing me more and more every time I see her. She's always been surprisingly fast for her size, and very agile as well. Now she's extending her range and making defenses respect her clear out beyond the arc. One of 2004's hidden gems, to be sure, and as much because of hard work as because of talent. Douglas was killer at both ends, hitting big shots that would have broken any other team and making sharp defensive plays. The Tamikaze (great nickname, BCBG) was at it again, but she didn't dominate the way I'm used to her dominating. This wasn't her game the way so many games against the Liberty have been. TSB seems to have lost the hooker twitch in her walk, and was actually working for rebounds today (although that's not exactly challenging against Cathrine). Tully hit the floor, so it was an official game, and she made some critical defensive plays, but I still don't understand that last shot of hers. As for the Fever bench, I know Tan White was there, but I genuinely don't remember her doing anything worth mentioning. Ditto LaToya Bond. Bales got a few minutes, including some in a weird lineup with TSB. Sherill Baker served as the defensive switch for TSB, and I think that was about all she did. Feaster got her shtos, and hit one of them, because seriously, people we do not leave Allison Feaster open, not until at least one leg has fallen off. Bernadette Ngoyisa looks like she's put on a lot of weight since leaving the Liberty, and isn't using it at all well. She looked really lost in the offense- yes, I know, she's relatively new to the team, but catching the ball should not be that complicated an operation.
Then again, a fan of the team that has Cathrine Kraayeveld shouldn't talk about fumbling passes. Jeebus. But Cat turned it up in the fourth quarter with the tie, and in the OT. In the first half, though, she and Essence were both awful. And I got to see Cathrine look awful and awfully confused up close. When Essence started to come alive in the second half, we were joking around about what Patty said to light a fire under her, and I suggested that the best way to put the fear of God into her would be to just quietly say, "Coach Stringer would not be pleased." But in the OT she started acting like she had to put everything on her shoulders, and took some absolutely crazy shots that she had no business taking. Loved when she climbed the stanchion to avoid going into the crowd. Sista Christon- she was a fighter out there, getting her shots and forcing fouls. I was surprised that most of the boneheaded "hey, let's go out there and not win this game!" moves weren't from her- I love Shameka to pieces as a person, but she does tend to make some dumb decisions on the court. Janel- wow. Just. Wow. I'm pretty sure that's a Garden record for a Liberty player- Becky's 33 came at Minnesota, and the only other game I could think of was when Tari went for 30… against the Fever, in a game where we needed every poin to win. What do you mean, that sounds familiar? Loree is solid, and played solid, except for a couple of inexplicable passes. Miss Jackson got called on to swing between Janel and Cathrine's positions, and she brought a lot of energy. The rest of the bench didn't play all that much, which had to hurt later. Erin was basically a decoy during crunch time in the fourth and the overtimes, and I was about ready to kill her for passing up her three until Cathrine, you know, tied the game, then it was all okay. Leilani wasn't bad, and I think a couple of more minutes for her during regulation could have helped alleviated some of the fatigue problems that set in in the overtimes. Yes, I'm thinking of the free throw that Loree left short. Lisa was active on defense, but it seemed that as soon as she found her groove, she was pulled, never more to see the light of day. Erlana had a Screen of Death and one helluva tackle.
Actually, there were a lot of tackles in the game. The crew let the players play, for the most part, and it went both ways. Difference in fouls and free throws came both in the timing of Indiana's fouls and in forcing fouls. That, and missing shots that should have been and-ones. I never thought I'd see the day when I screamed, "JUNE, I LOVE YOU!" but that jump ball, overruling the male ref all ready to call a foul on Loree, saved the game for us. Things got quite wild out there.
Rebecca Lobo's pregnant again. Either she wants an entire front line or she wants a boy. Other than that, she looks good. It's disconcerting to see her in flip-flops, though. (Weird fact of the day: all three players who have ever worn #50 for the New York Liberty were in the house, with Rebecca working as a commentator, Bernie on the Fever, and Jess on the Liberty.) She was chatting with Kym Hampton before the game- soliciting tips, maybe? Because, you know, she totally hasn't done this before…
Gorgeous anthem. Fucking amazing. Boring contests, though. And for the love of God, I don't care if he's the sweetest guy on the planet, that guy in the Christon jersey is enough to make a woman wish she could turn gay.
Whole lot of Charlotte going on tonight, and at one of the quarter breaks, Janel and TSB were chatting it up about something.
Late-arriving crowd. These 7PM tips dick with everyone's schedule.
Favorite moment of the game, of sorts- Katie Douglas gets off a three as Erin Thorn closes on defense… and out of Erin Thorn's Utahn, possibly-Mormon, mouth comes a short, hard word starting with F. Our little Cougar is growing up and learning how to sling the local lingo. *sniffle*
Not amused by Coyle's bench management. She does know you're allowed to use reserves in the second half, right? On the other hand, she managed her timeouts much more effectively than Dunn did, and Dunn *was* forced into using her bench by the foulouts of Hoffman and Catchings.
I think that's about all I'm coherent enough to write. That was just epic. That's the only word left for it.
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overandback
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 675 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: 06/27/08 3:31 am ::: |
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Queenie wrote: |
Janel- wow. Just. Wow. I'm pretty sure that's a Garden record for a Liberty player- Becky's 33 came at Minnesota, and the only other game I could think of was when Tari went for 30… against the Fever, in a game where we needed every poin to win. |
Because my Media Guide is sitting right here (and the #&#$* cat woke me up) I can play the role of pilight and tell you that Janel tied the record for most points at the Garden by a Lib. I had to rub my eyes because the earlier record is held by ... Cathrine Kraayeveld. July 20 of last year versus Houston.
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Yes, I'm thinking of the free throw that Loree left short. |
Do you mean a rebound or something? She made both of the FTs she took. In fact I was going to correct myself and say that SloMo was really the one who iced the game for us because those FTs finally put us four points up. Christon was on Catch for the Fever's last offensive play though, and then she (SC) put in a couple more FTs to really *really* send us all home, so I'll give her partial credit.
I'm so proud of these kids. I wish they could rest some before getting on the plane to Sacto.
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sambista
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Posted: 06/27/08 4:28 am ::: |
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what. a. game.
i'm tired, too. overslept. three hours and one minute. whew!
the very best games are the ones you can't record in their entirety unless you're monitoring it. this is a perfect specimen for espn's (i have to keep saying it) "game of the week" show. actually, forget espn. nba tv could easily do this.
loved listening to to lin dunn's huddle talk. i still don't think she's that great a coach, but she's such a delightfully colorful character, she knows the player's mind, knows the game. and how curious that patty turned off her mic.
i'm sure it has been discussed in this and other threads, but i just have to ask/declare: who has inhabited the body of ebony hoffman?!
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Elizabeth
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Posted: 06/27/08 6:01 am ::: |
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sambista wrote: |
how curious that patty turned off her mic. |
My dad and I were speculating that it's because she likes to swear, or maybe she did earlier in the game and it got caught in the time delay so they turned it off. Haven't ever sat behind the Lib bench so I wouldn't know.
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LakotaStorm
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Posted: 06/27/08 7:16 am ::: |
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With a Fever loss and a Mystic win that puts Fever at a risk of dropping down to 5th place should the Mystics win tomorrow.
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NYL_WNBA_FAN
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Posted: 06/27/08 7:18 am ::: |
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LakotaStorm wrote: |
With a Fever loss and a Mystic win that puts Fever at a risk of dropping down to 5th place should the Mystics win tomorrow. |
Do you have a $1,000,000 bet that Seattle is going to finish with a better record than Indiana or something?
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LakotaStorm
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Halle Berries
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Halle Berries
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Posted: 06/27/08 8:37 am ::: |
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BCBG25 wrote: |
OT!!! Kraay hits the 3!!! |
That was nice how that play developed.
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overandback
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Posted: 06/27/08 9:11 am ::: |
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Halle Berries wrote: |
BCBG25 wrote: |
OT!!! Kraay hits the 3!!! |
That was nice how that play developed. |
Wasn't it? It was the perfect play to call. I was really worried PC was going to put Thorn on the hook after she rode the bench all game. Props to Patty, and to the players for flawless execution.
They didn't continue to execute perfectly, but I was very impressed at the discipline and patience the LIbs showed in the OTs. Or like LibWNBAFan said, confidence and character. This time last year I think we would have seen a lot more jacked-up shots. They still turned the ball over enough to keep us all in Maalox, but they didn't get rattled. It helped that Indy was hitting the front of the rim at that point, but still, an impressively mature effort.
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KeiraNY
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Posted: 06/27/08 11:16 am ::: |
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I think it's safe to say we're all dead tired today!! I got home at almost midnight (since I missed that damn 10:40 train). Slept an extra 45 mins and I'm feeling WAY better that yesterday but WHAT A GREAT MOF'ING GAME!! It would've physically HURT if we had lost the game. I would've thrown a tantrum and cried like a 2-yr old who got denied her favorite toy. Meka had a really great quote in today's NY Post about how (paraphrasing here) they failed the mental test in MN but they passed the test here. Well done baby girl! I LOVE MEKA TO DEATH! How good is she?? She's shouldering her load...and those were some some-quiet 23 points she had. I like aggressive Meka!!! I did have to laugh the times Ebony Hoffman tried to guard Meka! LOL!! Girl, she'll leave you behind in NO time!
What to say about Janel -- she's a ROCK STAR!! As soon as I saw the bandana on her, I thought of BCBG!! LOL!! Bandana Janel came to kick ass and take names! WOW! What a freaking performance...I think it was smart to have Catch on Janel, but not even the mighty Catch cooled her off...then again, Catch is quasi gimpy!
Cat, bless her heart, was USELESS defensively throughout most of the entire game but she stepped up offensively when she had to! Let's face it, she's not the most athletic or the most talented on the team, but this girl is a work horse!!! That's why I like her...Boo Boo (aka Ebony) had her way w/ her in more ways than 1.
Essence was....possessed! Woo-hoo!! Loree had some unfortunate TO's, but I'm sorry NO ONE runs the offense like this girl can. NO ONE! Leilani is a good backup but my money's on Loree ALL THE TIME!
Great anthem!! Am I the only one who thought they were running out of "inspirational" songs to play?? There was The Final Countdown, Welcome to the Jungle, Rocky, New York, NY, even Enter Sandman got played (side note: I got chills when they played that -- that's Mariano Rivera's song). Even that stupid Billy Bob video made it...what would've been next?? I ran out of ideas...
Anyone know if the Garden serves breakfast?? Cause at the rate we were going, we'd prolly still be there!! Oof!!! Hope the girls are rested for Sacto tomorrow...LET'S GO LIBS!!!_________________ Since this "FUCK this 'signature is too long' bullshit!!!" is no longer applicable, I'm gonna have to get creative - just not right now. Oh, GO LIBERTY!!!! |
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Halle Berries
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Posted: 06/27/08 11:55 am ::: |
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KeiraNY wrote: |
I'm sorry NO ONE runs the offense like this girl can. NO ONE! Leilani is a good backup but my money's on Loree ALL THE TIME!
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Motion 2nd... and carried!!
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