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[bluewolfvii]

Can someone explain this to me?

[dtsnms]

Easy, it's spelled B O N E Y A R D

[CRASH]

Two words - Penn and State

Look at thier choice of words "Donavan has had her share of off the court problems..." or "... and the league flushes away some of the stigma" Whoever wrote this has obveiously gone to the Portland school of female athletics. Thus, thier ignorance and intollerance is showing!



Blue I don't know what to tell you. This is not going away any time soon. It's a double edge sword, If the Athletes come out publicly to start getting people used to the FACTS then they could lose their jobs, scholarships, ect. So they don't and this behavior continues. Sucks huh?

[CamrnCrz1974]

It is the "Our Girls Syndrome" that permeates the fan base of women's basketball.

[MSUstudent31]

[KatValeska]

I dunno Blue. I wouldn't classify the statements you quoted as hate. I certainly lack the passion for the W that I have for the college game, but I still watch about half the games that are televised nationally, and had a good ol' time watching the finals last year.

BUT - it bothers me that I'm unable to get as excited about the pro league as I do the college game. And believe me, I've thought a heck of a lot about why this is so. Really, I do care about the success of the W, I see it as very very important. But while there are seemingly obvious reasons why I am far more passionate about the college game, such as I live in a major conference college town, while theres no W team within reasonable driving distance, and there are no current players from the college team I love in the W at the moment - but still there is more to it than that.

Heck, I know how talented the players are and that they indeed are coached by top-notch professionals, yet there is something else missing. Some reason I don't get nearly as excited about watching Sacto play the Sparks as I do, heck, watching Duquesne play Dayton.

It certainly isn''t hate, and if I ever knock the league intentionally i hope someone knocks me upside the head.

I also think that passions leaning heavily in the other direction exist as well. While there are plenty of crossover fans like Cam and Keegan -there seems to be plenty of W fans on these various forums whose interest in the college game doesn't seem to extend beyond individual players likely to be taken in the next W draft.

Anyway, just sharing some thoughts on the matter, even if they don't really lead anywhere. Wish I had concrete answers, but I don't.

[PUmatty]

Out of curiosity, how do you get to see Duquense play Dayton? Are these games ever televised?

[pilight]

It happens with all college sports. There are MCBB fans that hate the NBA, college football fans that hate the NFL, even college wrestling fans that hate the WWE. There will always be some fans that won't make that jump.

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[PUmatty]

"even college wrestling fans that hate the WWE. "

I would wager most of them ....

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[PUmatty]

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[CamrnCrz1974]

[Jerseygirlie]

For me, the W just isn't the same as WCBB. I watch the W when I can, but with WCBB, I make the time to watch it and keep up to date with it all. I have my team, and they are my team! I haven't developed that kind of loyalty to a team in the WNBA yet. I am guessing it will just take time for me to get into it, but the short season and the fact that I have other priorities for the summer, hamper those efforts. It's not really hate for the WNBA, but more a lack of time to get into it.

[4ever_bball_fan]

Well, if it dries up and goes away one day, all the women's bball fans that waited around for "somebody else" to buy the tickets to fill the seats and make the teams' money so the league could survive and be a viable entity in the sports entertainment marketplace, will not have an excuse for not going to the games. Why? Because there won't be any games for them to attend.

Jerseygirlie, I don't mean to call you out or anything, I think you have expressed a prevailing point in the minds of a lot of fans that find reasons to not get to at least a couple of games a year.

No one gave this league a chance in hell nine years ago, and as we sit here today, the product is better than it has ever been, over all...but the fannies are not filling the stands as in the early days. Some markets are holding their own, but over all it is getting scary to me.

WCBB is also better than ever, and for the life of me I cannot understand why that does not translate to the pro game, at least a little.

[Sass]

Since I agree with ProfessorChaos, I won't rehash all the same points. But I would like to reverse the question: I've met plenty of people whose enthusiasm for the W has not translated into the same thing for college or high school. Though many are people who were never into sports before, the attitude annoys the hell out of me. They act like the W is all there is, or at least the most important. Why is that? To earn my respect as a sports fan, you have to be able to appreciate the game on all levels - even AAU.

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[accommodatingly]

Interesting thread. Warning: long post.

[KatValeska]

"Out of curiosity, how do you get to see Duquense play Dayton? Are these games ever televised?"

Actually, yes - A-10 TV, which, of course, i don't get. I was generalizing, and just named those two teams off the top of my head. Still, I make time to listen in to games like that on the Internet, while I tend to watch W games, if they happen to be on when I'm home.

At present I'm a bit vexed that the W team I like the best, the Lynx, were listed on wbb on-line as playing today on Fox Sports. But, turns out not in my area. Instead, we get the all-important clash between the Rockies and Tigers.


Even if that wasn't on now, they'd probably have shown poker or best damn sports list or some similar tripe.

Hopefully I'll be able to fit Direct TV into the budget soon - goal is to have it by November.

[PUmatty]

[KatValeska]

"Have you watched any of the Web casts on wnba.com? The Lynx game was on tonight, and they do a pretty good job of spreading the teams around"

It's free this year too? Dang - wished I'd have known that sooner. I am signed up now - thanks for the tip..

[Ballwinner]

I am more of a fan of the WNBA because in several ways, it's easier. There are only 13 teams and less than 175 players with only a nine year history. I can't even really keep up with all of the Big 12 and UConn, Stanford, Minnesota, Michigan State, Duke, UNC, and Tennessee.

Most of all, the summer season has fit my student schedule better since it doesn't compete with playing/coaching/broadcasting my own basketball schedule with some classes and work mixed in as well.

Perhaps SLU's new coach will put together a decent program that sparks some additional interest.

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[jammerbirdi]

Just happened to glance at this board for the first time and thought I'd give an opposite perspective.

I absolutely can't watch women's college basketball. But I can't watch men's college basketball or football either. I don't want to disparage something that so many of my buds here obviously love and I point out my similar feelings towards the men's games to establish that it's not something I have against the women's game.

School passions provide a context that makes college sports much more interesting than it really is, in my opinion. It infuses the actual contests with a whopping load of consequence that if stripped away from the sport would (and in my case, does) leave the game to stand or fall on its own merits and women's college basketball, while it is getting better, just doesn't have anything to offer me. I've tried. It stinks. Get over it.

At any time the WNBA is comprised of the most select few players from the last (whatever the long end of a WNBA player's career consists of) ten or so years. 130 women culled from a talent pool of tens of thousands of female basketball players. I want to see the best players competing against one another not because I'm a snob about it. It's just makes for something better by my standards of what constitutes something better.

And even with that kind of selectivity in terms of talent the WNBA games are as prone to bad and boring games as any other pro sport is. How many bad Super Bowls have there been? (I wouldn't really know because of my long standing tradition of falling asleep during Super Bowls.)

'cause people I effen hate sports, quite frankly. Major league baseball, college football, NASCAR, they all make me want to shoot myself. None of it is anything like it used to be EXCEPT for women's basketball (not like women's basketball used to be, like sports used to be) and that's because the WNBA came along and concentrated the best players in the world into one small league that hasn't stopped TRYING yet and hasn't yet been destroyed by the economics of modern pro sports.

But sports has become a very disgusting enterprise to me and that DOES include the college game. Boring is actually the least of its problems.

I do obviously love the WNBA. I wish I didn't really because it's a goddamned obsession. Obviously. I don't entirely understand it either. It's like Woody and Sun Yi. The heart wants what it wants. What are you going to do? I thought I was finally over it this past offseason but it hit me worse than ever just as the season started.

And another thing... I think this thread should be posted in the WNBA board as it really amounts to a comparison between the WNBA and something else.

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[KatValeska]

"women's college basketball, while it is getting better, just doesn't have anything to offer me. I've tried. It stinks. Get over it. Twisted Evil "

That's as far as I needed to read.

Thanks for filling those of us who are clueless about Quality in there jammer.


Out of politeness, I won't mention where I've filed the mental note I received from that post.

[jammerbirdi]