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PostPosted: 05/11/05 8:54 am    ::: On shoulders and surgery Reply Reply with quote

As you probably know, I've been having pain and loss of strength in my right shoulder. After X-rays, MRIs, nerve conduction tests, and the like, I finally got presented with treatment options yesterday.

Fortunately, it will not require surgery. I'm going next week to have a cortisone shot directly into my spine. My orthopedist believes this will alleviate the problem, at least for a while.



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PostPosted: 05/11/05 9:04 am    ::: Re: On shoulders and surgery Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
As you probably know, I've been having pain and loss of strength in my right shoulder. After X-rays, MRIs, nerve conduction tests, and the like, I finally got presented with treatment options yesterday.

Fortunately, it will not require surgery. I'm going next week to have a cortisone shot directly into my spine. My orthopedist believes this will alleviate the problem, at least for a while.


Ouch, spinal shots scare me; be careful and hope it feels better.


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PostPosted: 05/11/05 9:28 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Good luck, Pilight. Hope the shoulder heals quickly!


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PostPosted: 05/11/05 9:43 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Yeah all the best, Pilight.

Keep us informed on the diagnosis too. In the last 6 months or so I have been getting increasing soreness in my right shoulder... I suspect in my case it's to do with either my posture or the way I sleep.
Luckily my shooting hasn't been affected yet - 4/6 from outside the arc tonight Smile



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PostPosted: 05/11/05 9:45 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Diagnosis is a bulging disc. I have two fused vertebrae from a car accident many years ago and they're now pushing on the next one, causing the disc to press on some of the nerves. No nerve damage, hence no surgery required.



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PostPosted: 05/11/05 9:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sounds nasty.
"Alleviate" sure doesn't sound as good as "treat", but I'll bet the relief from pain will be most welcome.



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PostPosted: 05/11/05 10:47 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, a bulging disc is not quite the same as a herniated disc. That nerve root is getting irritated probably everytime you move. Good luck with the shoulder. Have you thought about going to a chiropractor--sometimes they can help?


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PostPosted: 05/12/05 1:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I am on the down side of recovering from rotator cuff surgery in October. My muscle was 70% torn. It hurt like a MF! I know what you are going through is not the same, pilight, but in a way, I can understand your pain. I'm glad you don't have to have surgery and I hope the shot helps. (It didn't touch the pain in mine, but again, different diagnosis). Are you right handed? Just curious. I was without my right arm for nearly 3 months. It's amazing what we can adapt to. I never got the shoe tying thing down tho.....................flip flops were the answer. Again, good luck!
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PostPosted: 05/12/05 1:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I am right handed.

I actually got the first injection (of three) yesterday afternoon. I managed to not throw up or pass out, both common reactions. The remaining shots are supposed to cause less reaction.



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PostPosted: 05/12/05 1:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Diagnosis is a bulging disc. I have two fused vertebrae from a car accident many years ago and they're now pushing on the next one, causing the disc to press on some of the nerves. No nerve damage, hence no surgery required.


i just had a cortisone shot in my right foot -- among other things, i have a neuroma as a result of being hit by that suv.

i don't know if you'll have the same experience, but i had pretty intense pain and cramping for about 36 hours after the shot, even though they administered an anesthetic along with it. something about jamming a needle into an inflamed nerve...

my advice: see a natropath. they can help you with all kinds of nutritional supplements to help reduce inflamation and heal nerve damage. i've found BCQ and B12 (or 6, don't remember which right now) very effective. also, applying a peat paste to the spinal area of concern would probably help. a friend of mine had neck surgery to fix a bulging disk, and peat treatment was helpful. i'm just starting that on my foot. also, acupuncture can be really helpful. it wasn't for me, but i have friends with various back problems who have had great results. in short: don't leave it all up to the allopaths! they're just groping in the dark anyway, especially when it comes to nerve damage/muscle pain.



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PostPosted: 05/12/05 2:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Diagnosis is a bulging disc. I have two fused vertebrae from a car accident many years ago and they're now pushing on the next one, causing the disc to press on some of the nerves. No nerve damage, hence no surgery required.



Which vertebrae? Shocked I was a juror on an accident case that resulted in herniated disks in the neck, and the surgery was not pretty... They butterflied his throat to operate. So keep the positive outlook high Pilight!



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PostPosted: 05/12/05 2:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Herniated disc surgeries are almost always anterior to the patient and through the neck even minimally invasive foraminotomies. The neck surgery looks worse than it is. It has come a long way since the fusion surgeries that date to the 50s.

But based on pilight's description, I think he's talking thoracic, not cervical. Which two discs, pilight?


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PostPosted: 05/12/05 2:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

The fused vertebrae are c-5 and c-6. The bulging disc is between them and c-4.



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PostPosted: 05/12/05 3:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A car accident in the 1990s left me with a C5-C6 herniation that didn't present until 10 years later, when on return from a long trip two fingers in my right hand went numb while driving. Two years of massage, chiropractic, stem, ultrasound, physical therapy, etc. and it didn't get any better, it got worse leading to weakness in the arm, muscle spasms, even migraine. The MRI confirmed a herniated disc- the surgeon wanted to remove the disc and do fusion. I went to this surgeon instead. I was released the next day and able to work within two weeks, and no neck brace required.

http://drjho.com/jho_institute.htm

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New endoscopic surgical techniques for spinal diseases have also been developed by Dr. Jho. These innovative procedures include a minimally invasive disc-preserving anterior cervical foraminotomy for cervical disk herniation, minimally invasive spinal cord decompression via anterior foraminotomy for cervical stenosis, an anterolateral or posterolateral approach for cervical spinal cord tumors, minimally invasive endoscopic thoracic discectomy, minimally invasive endoscopic lumbar discectomy, minimally invasive endoscopic decompression for lumbar stenosis, etc. Anterior foraminotomy for cervical disc herniation is a new surgical technique which removes only the herniated portion of the disc and preserves the remaining disc intact. Spinal bone fusion or metal implant is not necessary. Normal neck motion is well preserved with this new surgical technique. Spinal cord decompression for cervical stenosis is also performed via anterior foraminotomy. This operation for cervical stenosis does not require bone fusion or metal implant, and does not require the use of a postoperative brace


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PostPosted: 05/12/05 3:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A doctor with "ho" in his name? Sounds like my kind of specialist...


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PostPosted: 05/12/05 3:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
A doctor with "ho" in his name? Sounds like my kind of specialist...


Aren't all doctors basically ho's?


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PostPosted: 05/12/05 3:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

My car accident was in the 80's. The Ford Bronco II did, in fact, tip over just as easily as the lawsuits suggested. My part of the class action suit amounted to $12.19, but at least some lawyers got paid. Mad



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pilight wrote:
My car accident was in the 80's. The Ford Bronco II did, in fact, tip over just as easily as the lawsuits suggested. My part of the class action suit amounted to $12.19, but at least some lawyers got paid. Mad


Aren't all lawyers basically ho's too? Present company included, cam!


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PostPosted: 05/12/05 3:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Aren't all lawyers basically ho's too? Present company included, cam!



As a general rule, I have more respect for ho's than for lawyers.



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PostPosted: 05/12/05 3:33 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

My Dad recently had the same surgery (same vertabrae fused) also due to a car accident from several years ago.
He was having shoulder pain and loss of strength in his arm too - then one of his legs. They finally had to operate.
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PostPosted: 05/12/05 3:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Did Dad have the convential fusion surgery, Slovy, or did the doctors perform a minimally invasive procedure like a foraminotomy?

btw, its only been a few years but you can't see a scar on my neck, and unless I think about it I can't even remember which side they went through.


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PostPosted: 05/12/05 4:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

He had some kind of bone growth on the inside of a couple vertabrae. Somehow they took one out and "cleaned out" another and then replaced the missing one with ... something...
Then they had to fuse a couple of them.
At least that's how I understand it.
I'm just happy they put his head back on facing the right way when they were done.


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PostPosted: 05/12/05 5:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

He had some kind of bone growth on the inside of a couple vertabrae. Somehow they took one out and "cleaned out" another and then replaced the missing one with ... something...

Sounds like a combination of surgical techniques. The 'cleaning out' part is a foraminotomy. The adjacent vertebrae calcify, e.g., develop bone spurs, and with time will fuse together as it is one of the body's way of stabilizing injuries. In a foraminotomy, microsurgical tool are used to clean out the calcification that is impinging on the nerves in the spinal cord.

The 'putting something' back sounds like the old school operation, e.g. removing the herniated disk [all of it] and inserting an inert shim of a bone from a corpse or the patient's own hip to fuse and immobilize the two adjacent discs. This is the part you want to avoid until hell freezes over or you can't stand it anymore, whichever comes first.. but if you need it, you need it, and it been done with nearly 100% success for years.. its just some people say the hip where they graft the bone from never stops hurting..and with bones from a cadaver there's a risk of not fusing and needing to do it again..

But whatever techniques they used, Slovy, I bet (and hope) your Dad's going to be feeling a lto better..


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PostPosted: 05/12/05 6:23 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

He says he's doing well. The Doc told him to expect it took take a whole year to recover. Then he has to get over here to Indy and spend a relaxing weekend fishing.


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