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[Toliver...Holy Cow!]

Is there a clear-cut, "A" team for women's basketball games? It would be easy to say the Final Four duo, but they really don't work together during the season. That being said, I think Mike Patrick is one of the all-time greats, with a great voice. I know he's making a few more mistakes these days, but I still love his work. I grew up on him doing ACC games on local TV.

Doris Burke is good at analysis and keeps the audience in the game. She makes a lot of valid points. I have noticed that she LOVES Geno. I also thought that Doris would have the guts to call Latta out on some of her antics- body-slamming Marissa Coleman at the Final Four, cheap-shotting the Tenn. player this year and general unsportsmanlike behavoir, but it hasn't happened yet. That's a tough thing to do.

Her partner Mark Jones would be o.k. if he could just reel in some of his hippity-hoppiness. I don't need to watch a game to hear about rapper Ludacris. And because he spends so much time around the NBA, I think Jones thinks its cool when women players emulate some of the same stuff. Which, I think is terrible for the game. We really don't need to over-emphasize individual showmanship and dunking. It is not what the women's game is about and not why many people tune in. It is another topic, but I actually think the over-emphasizing of the dunk at the expense of other highlights is one of the worst things that has happened. It is total mis-marketing and takes us down a road we don't want to wander. To suggest that viewers should tune in to see women's basketball because there is now dunking is a total lie and will only mislead potential fans. And..for the record...that dunk contest that Candace won was a huge fraud. A total scam. That being said, she's a phenomenal player.

Anyway...back to the original topic...I'm sure there are some good announce teams out there that are flying under the radar. Anyone I should find on the dish?

[4ever_bball_fan]

"hippity-hoppiness"...I love that. He said something the last game I heard him call, with Doris, and I almost shoved my foot thought the Sony 27" flat screen, hoping it would hit him in the head!!! What a dork!

I got used to "dropin' dimes like a bank teller"...and I unfortunately can't remember what he said this last time...I am getting used to not listening as they go into commercial breaks, knowing he is going to drop some of his famous "hippity-hoppiness"...

Priceless.

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[dtsnms]

"Rebounding is like deoderant, it covers up a lot of stink"

[CamrnCrz1974]

More Mark Jones:

- "Iciss Tillis...doing her best milkshake."
- "Vicki Krapohl...she'd teach you, but she'd have to charge."
- "Alana Beard...she's got candy for everybody!"

The one comment I like from Mark Jones..
- "Splashdown, straight butter!"

[PUmatty]

[luvDhoops]

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I like Heather Cox, but she seems to have been permanently banished to sideline work.

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[mercfan3]

[Capri]

ALso Mark Jones:

If you don't take care of the onion it will make you cry

[Joey Nations]

I believe last night he said the following after Sidney Spencer finally hit a 3.

"Sidville...population zero"

He said it refers to where Spencer goes when she can't hit her shots, maybe a UT fan can elaborate.

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[tx4OU]

Ron Franklin, he doesn't do women's games, but I'd love to see him do the PBP some day. I also have an affinity for Debbie Antonelli's voice even though some on here don't like her over use of "are you kidding me?!!" She's been doing a lot of OU's games with Bob Carpenter, a Tulsa/St. Louis native, and has recently spent a lot of time the past few years doing B12 Tournaments. She's fair, well spoken and comes across genuine to me.

I think Bob Carpenter, who used to do a lot of men's ESPN games out west, would be someone under the radar. He does his homework and gives you extra knowledge about players such as their high school playing days.

Doris also has that voice that just says WCB to me. I don't really care for Lobo.

[Toliver...Holy Cow!]

I think Antonelli is a promoter of the game and has a lot of knowledge. She certainly loves the "Are you kidding me?!?!?" line and tends to shout at us. Despite that, I think she's o.k. However, whatever game she does turns into a Coach G lovefest. I watch a lot of ACC games and no matter who is playing, if Antonelli and her partner Mowins are doing the game, there is the mandatory Coach G promo. They'll roll in Coach G soundbites during games that don't involve Duke. They'll tell Coach G stories during games that don't involve Duke. They'll tell us what Coach G cooked for dinner. When VA Tech was giving Duke a game the other day, they never mentioned anything about what a fine job VT and their staff must've done. It was all about Coach G. I'm just waiting for them to serve up Coach G movie reviews, Coach G on the war in Iraq and Coach G projects the candidates in the 2008 Presidential election.

I say all that and I think they do a decent job with games. And I think Coach G is fine as well. However, the lovefest gets to be too much.

[Toliver...Holy Cow!]

I should add that I think Mowins is good at play by play. She knows her stuff and has a nice style.

[CamrnCrz1974]

[Toliver...Holy Cow!]

Don't hate her because she's beautiful

[CamrnCrz1974]

[4ever_bball_fan]

Ron Franklin was a sports anchor for the CBS affiliate here in Houston for many, many years. I always enjoy him calling a game. He is an excellent announcer, and generally cooperates well with whomever he is working. I have heard him call women's bball...and my man is not as strong as I would have hoped. But, he certainly stays so busy the rest of the time on the men's side, it is understandable he won't know the players as well as the men's teams he usually calls.

Here's another of my faves, with H-town ties...Jim Kozemor!!! Luv him!

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[Marquette Fan]

I like Jimmy Dykes (spelling?) - he seems to know his stuff when calling a women's game and is enthusiastic. I haven't heard him call many women's games though - think I've seen him do some NCAA Tourney games in recent years.

[mikeyc22]

Mark Jones says every game at the end, "This game is just about cooked, glazed, and sliced."

Megan on UConn laughs way too much. At least 50 times a game. We count. And the laugh is obnoxious. Other than that, she is not bad.

[bballfan2005]

[jimmyk]

Bob Carpenter would be great. He's an excellent baseball announcer...he even created his own scorebook for baseball that's really nice. I would love for him to do WNBA games, but that's not gonna happen because of his baseball work, so the more college games he gets the better if he does.

Mark Jones is a lousy excuse for a sports announcer. He does well when he is serious about what he's doing. One or two of his little catch phrases every once in a while would be okay, but he drops them constantly on his women's games. It's highly annoying, and I'd rather him stay with the NBA where he's actually pretty good.

Linda Cohn wasn't too bad last year, but she had Sportscenter syndrome. Instead of calling the play as it happened, she let it happen and then called it. Other than that, though, she was good.

If it was me, and I could pick whoever I wanted, I'd have Bob Carpenter and Van Chancellor as the #1 team for college and pro. Then Linda and Doris for #2. Won't happen, so I'll take Linda and Doris at #1 for now, and Dave Pasch and Van Chancellor as the #2. Dave did some WNBA games last year, I think, and he does those just like he does the men's games...something Mark Jones could stand to learn, that's for sure.

[jimmyk]

[bullsky]

I love the Pac 10 duo. They are awesome.

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[Captain Marvel]

I'm shocked that no one has mentioned Pam Ward and how uniformly excellent she is. I missed her at the Final Four last year and I hope ESPN brings her back this year, at least to do sideline reporting, though she should replace Mike Patrick.

[bballjunkee212]

I was watching a regional game-- I forget who, although I seem to have a recollection that U. Washington was one of the teams-- and the announcers were actually calling the game. They were talking about the offense the teams were actually running at the moment, they were talking about the defense, and how the offense and defense were taking advantage of what they were getting. They were calling the substitutions as they happened. It was just like watching a men's game. Those are the announcers I'd like all the time.

Barring that, I'd like to listen to a game called by Doris Burke with Van Chancellor, Nancy Lieberman and Sue Bird as the color people. That would be entertaining.

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"We're objective beings with a little German thrown in-- what could possibly go wrong?"

[CamrnCrz1974]

[needbb]

Clone Doris. Banish Mark to NBA games only.

He only does his "junk in the trunk, enough to feed the needy, baked glazed and sliced, like the kids say 'this jumper is wet'" schtick for women's games. It is intolerable.

And did you hear in a recent game he worked with Doris he called her by the wrong name? I think he called her "Linda."

[bballfan2005]

[Kelli]

[jimmyk]

I like the Doris, Van, and Sue idea...even with Nancy, but banish her to sideline reporter since she always likes to show off what new hideous shade of tanned-orange she wants to be each game.

[PalaceAthena]

I hope Mike Patrick never does another women's basketball game again. I mean, jeez, how hard is it to get a player's name or even the name of the school right. He's a little less annoying when he does football, but only slightly less.

Dave Pasch is a pretty good as a play-by-play guy. Beth Mowins is decent as well. I don't mind Pam Ward's monotone so much because at least she's not annoying and obnoxious. For color, give me Doris Burke, Kara Lawson, or Rebecca Lobo.

[O.G.]

Things Doris must be banned from saying ever again

1. "She can really stick it!"

[Toliver...Holy Cow!]

I thought Pam Ward was pretty good last year. If she's paired with the right analyst, she doesn't have to go crazy with the inflection. She did well for herself on football this fall. At least she does her homework.

[CamrnCrz1974]

[Daddychoc]

in the SI article

BTW a local MALE announcer for OK. called Courtney Paris everything but BIG FAT PIG.

Everytime he mentioned her he had to say something about her size. It was horrible. His partner didn't say a word BUT Im sure she was T'ed off too.
I'll look up his name again and post it but I see why he's a nobody.

[24duzitall]

i wish jay bilas would call games but i don't think he does that anymore. mowins and antonelli are ok. better than jones for sure. i would like to hear lawson and burke do some games. can't stand vc. i spend too much time dissecting his accent and thinking about mr. magoo.

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[cthskzfn]

no team is w/o their faults, imHo, but i'd say my overall national "favorite" is mowins/antonelli.

it's taken me years to get used to all the shouting from them, they are unbearable ACC homers, and antonelli's ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?! is a worn ripoff of robin roberts, but they do an excellent job of describing and analyzing what you see, which is a concept lost on many WCB tv productions.

i find the FSN teams much better overall than the teams given us to do the "marquee matchups" on ESPN or CBS.

there is a PBP guy who does PAC-10 and/or BIG 12 games that i like.

now that i no longer need to use a drawl de-scrambler, i enjoy chancellor.

folks who i wish had other jobs: ward, lieberman, jones, johnson, plotzke, schatz, cohen, lobo.

i think lawson is the best in-studio and thought she was good doing games.

hard to believe we actually had jay bilas!

[cthskzfn]

just wanted to say i had no idea of the SI article and posted my thoughts before reading it.

[bballjunkee212]

I like Mike Patrick. I think he is making fewer mistakes with wcbb than he did five years ago-- I think he's both learning about the game and developing an appreciation for it.

One thing I especially like about Mike is his combination of sincerity and enthusiasm. When he says "great to have you with us," I know it's his signature line, but you get the feeling he actually means it. And there is something exhilarating about the way he can get excited about ordinary, but well-timed or well-executed play.

Another thing I like about him is how he relates to his fellow announcers. When he announces with Ann or Doris, and they are on camera, he is making eye contact with them and actually listening to what they say. He's also conversing with them, and not just waiting for them to stop talking. I like this because I think it signals some professional respect, but, in another way, signals some respect for "our" game.

Bottom line, Mike Patrick seems like the kind of guy you would like to go to a game with, and just sit next to and watch the game and talk about it. I think that kind of quality goes a long way to making a good announcer.

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~Bill

"We're objective beings with a little German thrown in-- what could possibly go wrong?"

[cthskzfn]

i forgot to add to my list of those i wish had other employment- the guy for cstv...apparently he grew up thinking chris (boomer) berman was the announcer to emulate.

sorry kid...berman is a great studio host but a shitty game announcer.