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PostPosted: 08/14/06 10:48 am    ::: FINAL ATTENDANCE REPORT Reply Reply with quote

The final report is this, overall the league finished strong, increasing by over 100 from last week but failing to reach 7,500. I actually don't blame Chicago for the big drop from last season(-694), I blame New York(-1,025) & Washington(-2,249). If both of those teams averaged at least 10,000, the league itself would have averaged 7,700. Still less then last season, but a big difference.

RANK TEAM - AVERAGE (+/- difference from 2005)
1. Detroit Shock - 9,643 (+269)
2. New York Liberty - 9,120 (-1,025)
3. Sacramento Monarchs - 8,691 (+149)
4. Seattle Storm - 8,538 (-368)
5. Los Angeles Sparks - 8,312 (-527)
6. Washington Mystics - 7,839 (-2,249)
7. Phoenix Mercury - 7,496 (+193)
8. Houston Comets - 7,487 (+348)
9. San Antonio Silver Stars - 7,397 (-547)
10. Connecticut Sun - 7,380 (+241)
11. Indiana Fever - 7,204 (-1,178)
12. Minnesota Lynx - 6,442 (-231)
13. Charlotte Sting - 5,784 (+37)
14. Chicago Sky - 3,391
WNBA AVERAGE - 7,480 (-694)

TOP 15 ATTENDANCES OF 2006
1. May 20 @ Sacramento - 17,317
2. July 19 @ Washington - 15,103
3. July 19 @ Minnesota - 14,793
4. June 3 @ New York - 14,070
5. July 19 @ Detroit - 12,985
6. June 25 @ Sacramento - 12,947
7. July 20 @ Sacramento - 12,876
8. August 9 @ Los Angeles - 12,289
9. August 13 @ New York - 11,907
10. June 28 @ Phoenix - 11,661
11. August 13 @ Detroit - 11,558
12. June 29 @ Houston - 11,315
13. July 18 @ Seattle - 11,221
14. May 21 @ Houston - 10,952
15. July 20 @ Charlotte - 10,898

The Bottom 15 attendances were all owned by Chicago, which ranged from 2,570 - 3,520.

Since it's the WNBA's 10th Anniversary, here's some stats from the 1997 season,.

1997/2006 Differential (+/- diiference from 2006 season)
1. Phoenix Mercury - 13,703 (-6,207)
2. New York Liberty - 13,270 (-4,087)
3. Houston Comets - 9,708 (-2,221)
4. Los Angeles Sparks - 8,931 (-619)
5. Charlotte Sting - 8,307 (-2,523)
6. Cleveland Rockers - 7,971 (-571)*
7. Sacramento Monarchs - 7,858 (+833)
8. Utah Starzz** - 7,544 (-147)
WNBA AVERAGE - 9,662 (-2,182)
*from team's final season in 2003.
** now the San Antonio Silver Stars.

League Average by Seasons
1997 - 9,622
1998 - 10,864
1999 - 10,189
2000 - 9,072
2001 - 9,075
2002 - 9,344
2003 - 8,826
2004 - 8,613
2005 - 8,174
2006 - 7,480



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PostPosted: 08/14/06 10:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Someone email this to Dolan. Laughing
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PostPosted: 08/14/06 11:21 am    ::: Re: FINAL ATTENDANCE REPORT Reply Reply with quote

toad455 wrote:
The final report is this, overall the league finished strong, increasing by over 100 from last week but failing to reach 7,500. I actually don't blame Chicago for the big drop from last season(-694), I blame New York(-1,025) & Washington(-2,249). If both of those teams averaged at least 10,000, the league itself would have averaged 7,700. Still less then last season, but a big difference.


Well, blame Washington all you want, but I for one am glad that the new owners have stopped papering the house with freebies that were counted in "attendance." Very Happy


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PostPosted: 08/14/06 11:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

hey wats up with the numbers from Indiana... they have a great team, yet the attendance drops...


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PostPosted: 08/14/06 11:36 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Laughing Of those 9,000, around 7,000 were actual bodies and 2,000 of those were giveaways. Laughing Don't blame Washington. Blame NY. Laughing At least Washington had reasons and isn't hawking buy 1, get 3 free sales to their final 6 home games. No seriously, a rep called, emailed and called again offering me 1 ticket in the $54 section for $45 to the final 6 home games, but I'd get 3 free to all of those games on top of that. Laughing Blaze must not have read the President of the Sun's article in USA Today because she really cheapened the product this year. I was waiting for the guy to offer to pay ME to go to the game.
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PostPosted: 08/14/06 3:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

bump.



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PostPosted: 08/14/06 3:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Just out of curiosity, whats the average without the Chicago Sky?



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PostPosted: 08/14/06 3:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Orange][Krush wrote:
Just out of curiosity, whats the average without the Chicago Sky?


About 7,800


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PostPosted: 08/14/06 3:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

dtsnms wrote:
Orange][Krush wrote:
Just out of curiosity, whats the average without the Chicago Sky?


About 7,800


Thanks!



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PostPosted: 08/14/06 5:05 pm    ::: Re: FINAL ATTENDANCE REPORT Reply Reply with quote

CourtsideTix wrote:
toad455 wrote:
The final report is this, overall the league finished strong, increasing by over 100 from last week but failing to reach 7,500. I actually don't blame Chicago for the big drop from last season(-694), I blame New York(-1,025) & Washington(-2,249). If both of those teams averaged at least 10,000, the league itself would have averaged 7,700. Still less then last season, but a big difference.


Well, blame Washington all you want, but I for one am glad that the new owners have stopped papering the house with freebies that were counted in "attendance." Very Happy


Hear ye, hear ye. And Chicago makes more money per game than half the other teams in the league. (Really.) Attendance numbers mean something, and if your team's numbers go way up or way down without a change in ownership, it's worth trying to figure out what's going right or going wrong (usually it's the team's record-- the Indy drop is weird). But we should all remember that there are limits to what attendance means.


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PostPosted: 08/15/06 12:09 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

a question: when comparing these numbers to 2005, do the 2005 numbers include playoff games, or is it regular season to regular season?


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PostPosted: 08/15/06 12:25 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Key is revenue. Many teams are not yet turning a profit, even after a number of years. This is the main argument against expansion.


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PostPosted: 08/15/06 8:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
This is the main argument against expansion.


Or the main argument against keeping the same incompetent general manager for 10 years.
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PostPosted: 08/16/06 1:35 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

A few years ago, the WNBA was about to have lower attendance than the prior season, and the last two weeks, reported attendance numbers went up dramatically -- and the league just beat the previous year's total.

This year, I noticed the attendance inflation (and I track every box score) about four weeks ago. Teams that were getting about 6,500 were suddenly getting 7,500, and the numbers just kept climbing.

Of course leagues inflate their attendance totals, and the total in the arena is never equal to the number of tickets sold, but I think the last month was a huge push by the league to get numbers up.

Do I blame the league? Not at all -- but no one should be fooled. Attendance was down this year, though still, in total, reasonable enough for winning teams to make money. Nonetheless, there should be some concern about ticket sales, and I don't think adding another 5-29 team is going to get many more people to come to games.



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PostPosted: 08/16/06 1:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

could you imagine if the talent level ont he league was that of 1997 what might have happened to this league attendance wise.


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PostPosted: 08/16/06 2:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There's no doubt the Comet move to the Toyota Center has caused a significant part of our drop in attendance.

Besides the extra distance for the majority of ticket buyers, there is the maddening construction on both major arteries coming in from the west and southwest.

The last evening game against Phoenix took us an hour and forty-five minutes to get to and it's only about 14 miles from my home.

The team is aware of it, but there isn't much they can do about it. The construction is going to continue for years.

Even if the roads were fine (and they are a disaster as it is), the extra distance and time would cost us attendance.



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