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sambista
Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 16951 Location: way station of life
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Posted: 03/22/05 6:35 pm ::: |
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If you think Feaster is a good defender because of GM surveys and one vote in DPOTY, fair enough. I don't think that invalidates all other opinions though and nor is it proof that Feaster is a good defender. All it proves is that some other people think Feaster is a good defender. |
outstanding! someone studied logic, actually understood it and it stuck!
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Keegan
Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 6861 Location: The Cathedral of Snark
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Posted: 03/22/05 6:56 pm ::: |
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KeiraNY wrote: |
Am I the only one who sees a Charlotte/LA finals again???
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I think Charlotte have even more question marks than L.A. Lacey has amassed a lot of talent but she's not a particularly good coach and I don't think the pieces fit. If Tammy Sutton-Brown realises that she can be a post monster and Sheri Sam rediscovers past form (I think this is unlikely), then yes but I still think Connecticut is the class of the East. |
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Admiral_Needa
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 10479 Location: Tiburon, CA
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CamrnCrz1974
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18371 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: 03/22/05 7:56 pm ::: |
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Admiral, see my previous comment. You see, Admiral, I actually responded to you.
You have avoided the FACTS. You were called out about the shooting percentages, about DPOY voting, etc. You never responded to that.
You have avoided explaining your FAULTY LOGIC and FAULTY EVIDENTIARY BASE (see SeBibb's comment and your previous inconsistent statements).
I already responded to your comment about the surveys. You seem to keep ignoring that. You also ignore why it is evidence, but not conclusive proof. You fail to provide the requisite statistical information regarding the survery (as I delineated in my message).
Keep on going with your emoticons, color-filled messages, and vain attempts to live sexual fantasies through the posting of WNBA players with suggestive language. Everyone on the board saw how you avoid responding to messages where your claims are disproved by FACTUAL evidence.
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Admiral_Needa
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 03/22/05 8:27 pm ::: |
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If you can't even accept a GM Survey about Feaster, then it is clear that you're just afraid of being proved wrong |
No, Admiral. It is clear you cannot read.
Admiral, all you had to do was explain the GM survey. Explain the parameters...were players presented to the GMs or did were there blanks where the GMs inserted names without being prompted with multiple choice? When was the survey taken? Which players were included? Were any rules given?
All you had to do was answer these questions. And you ignore them, time after time after time. Again, no matter how big you make the font, no matter how many colors you use, no matter how many times you post your suggestive pictures, it doesn't change the fact that I responded to your question, and you continue to fail to respond to my posts.
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What would be conclusive proof? |
Who says there is conclusive proof? You treat a GM survey, which may or may not exist (you still haven't responded to THOSE inconsistencies in your posts), as conclusive proof, but fail to provide the parameters. Those surveys are opinions. As soon as someone questioned your opinion WITH FACTS, you got caught in your lie about the GM surveys.
All I did was question the basis for your opinions...by pointing to the FACTS. How you can classify the ACTUAL VOTES for DPOY as my opinion is beyond me....
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You say you want stats, surveys, etc... but you refuse to provide details so you can just dismiss them at the wave of your hand. |
You still have failed to respond to my 5+ messages about your comments re Feaster as a shooter, DPOY voting. Presumably, you have conceded YOU WERE WRONG (since the STATISTICS show you were wrong).
You have failed to respond to your comment about how you "KNOW" GMs rank Feaster re her defensive prowess, then your comment about how you still needed to take a survey of GMs.
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use other people's ass kissing as proof. |
Admiral, you are done in by your own words and posts. When everyone else can recognize it, you call it people kissing my ass??? ROFLMAO!
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CamrnCrz1974
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18371 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: 03/22/05 8:45 pm ::: |
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Keegan found the survey:
http://www.wnba.com/features/general_manager_survey04.html
As expected, Crystal Robinson and Alana Beard were not listed as choices!!! It was a multiple choice, where Feaster finished tied for 3rd with 5 other players. There wasn't even an option for "other" in case a GM wanted to pick someone else not on the list. Interesting to note that FIVE of the eight players (including Feaster) in the survey did not receive ANY votes for DPOY in 2004.
Again, Admiral, you (hopefully) can FINALLY see why your request for immediate acceptance of a GM survey, without parameters, cannot be conclusive proof, but is evidence, taken in context.
Now, as for responding to the FACTS I posted (shooting percentages, DPOY voting), I can wait...for that, and for the Wecker explanation.
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Keegan
Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 6861 Location: The Cathedral of Snark
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Posted: 03/22/05 8:46 pm ::: |
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Hahahaha no such details were provided about the GM survey. Let's see what it actually is:
http://www.wnba.com/features/general_manager_survey04.html
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I know she is ranked in the Top 3 by GMs. |
She's not. 1/12 GMs think she is the best perimeter defender in the WNBA.
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a GM Survey that has been audited by a 3rd party with open books which you can examine |
Proof?
You're basing your whole argument around a really dodgy looking survey. Enough said.
Time for some 80s disco!
You spin me right round, baby
Right round like a record, baby
Right round round round
You spin me right round, baby
Right round like a record, baby
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BCBG25
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 20112 Location: Sampa
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Posted: 03/22/05 9:36 pm ::: |
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Oh shit, there you go again with the bullshit merry-go-round.
Fuck what the GMs think, they are all clueless. How is that for a FACT?
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Admiral_Needa
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 10479 Location: Tiburon, CA
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Keegan
Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 6861 Location: The Cathedral of Snark
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Posted: 03/23/05 3:06 am ::: |
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Ahhh the VeProf tactic of avoiding questions asked.
Enough said indeed |
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CamrnCrz1974
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18371 Location: Phoenix
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Posted: 03/23/05 5:30 am ::: |
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14 other players are tied for 5th in the 'Most Underrated' category. That points to the likelihood that the survey wasn't multiple choice and that there weren't any omissions |
Not when you are given a list and are allowed to vote more than once in that category!!!
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Allison Feaster got Defensive Player of the Year votes not just in 2003, but also in 2000 and 2001 |
How many votes did she get in 2000? 2001? She got ONE vote in 2003 and none in 2004, contrary to your previous claims.
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I have therefore provided more than enough evidence to legitimize my previously stated opinion that Feaster is a top defender, one of the best pure-shooters, and one of the most underrated players in the league |
No, you haven't. Re shooting, see the percentages. And where have you demonstrated she is one of the best pure shooters???
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CamrnCrz1974
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Keegan
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Keegan
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Posted: 03/23/05 7:36 am ::: |
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Oh that is so wrong. |
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 03/23/05 8:44 am ::: |
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Absolutely the funniest thing I have ever seen on a message board!!!!!!!!
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dtsnms
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 03/23/05 3:09 pm ::: |
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BTTT...still hysterical.
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pilight
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Posted: 03/24/05 12:12 pm ::: |
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Ah, Spring, when a young man's fancy lightly turns to thoughts of...well...love, I guess.
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I ain't got a home
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BBallFanCT729
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 2666 Location: UConn Territory
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 03/25/05 10:42 am ::: |
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For a long while now he has been baiting me with his deceptive controversial headlines. He has done it on many occasions, and has become quite a master at his craft |
So he is a master baiter...kind of ruins the Lauren Jackson B&W images.
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 04/01/05 3:27 pm ::: |
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Notice Admiral still has not responded re his comments about the survey and the votes, after his evidentiary arguments were shot down.
OTOH, Needa_Shag's posts still make me laugh.
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