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Marjie



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PostPosted: 04/16/06 4:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Does anyone know the number of possessions per game in 2005? Does anyone know the average time per possession in 2005? What percent of possessions lasted longer the 24 seconds?

If 10 plays for your team lasted longer than 24 seconds, multiply 10 times let's say 4 seconds average = 40 extra seconds per game per team. Because of the 24 sec. clock, teams will be looking to shoot a bit quicker. Add another 40 seconds per team. Your team should get half of this or about 80 seconds. That's about 4 to 8 possessions. Score on 40% of them(2pts), an increase of 3 to 6 points for your team.

The NBA plays 24 seconds possessions and 12 minute quarters, (20% longer game (40 vs. 48 min/game)) and average about 100 ppg with the 8 extra minutes.

96 ppg for the Sun. That is a 32% increase over 2005. Hope you are correct as I love the Sun!

This season will be FANtastic!


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PostPosted: 04/16/06 5:14 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I just hope that no team averages under 70pts.



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PostPosted: 04/16/06 5:40 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Tully - 10 points
Yolanda - 10 points
Anna - 25 points
Tamika - 30 points
LaTangela - 10 points
Miko - 15 points
Charlotte - 10 points
Ebony - 10 points

120 points!



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PostPosted: 04/16/06 6:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Slovydal wrote:
Tully - 10 points
Yolanda - 10 points
Anna - 25 points
Tamika - 30 points
LaTangela - 10 points
Miko - 15 points
Charlotte - 10 points
Ebony - 10 points

120 points!



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Since we're losing our minds with this, you might as well put Miko at 20pts. Cool



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p_d_swanson



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PostPosted: 04/16/06 6:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Marjie wrote:
Does anyone know the number of possessions per game in 2005? Does anyone know the average time per possession in 2005? What percent of possessions lasted longer the 24 seconds?


According to knickerblogger.net, last year's average was just short of 72 per team per game, with Detroit (76) playing at the quickest pace and New York (68) at the slowest...


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PostPosted: 04/16/06 6:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Str8_Butta33 wrote:

Since we're losing our minds with this, you might as well put Miko at 20pts. 8)


Now you're being ridiculous!

lol!


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PostPosted: 04/16/06 8:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Slovydal wrote:
Str8_Butta33 wrote:

Since we're losing our minds with this, you might as well put Miko at 20pts. Cool


Now you're being ridiculous!

lol!


There aint no way if scoring is going up that much that Miko will only score 15, she's a STAR. Wink Cool



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PostPosted: 04/16/06 8:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

For the record, I'm just joking about her being a star. I'm sure Slovydal knows that I'm playing, some of ya'll though will think I'm serious just because I'm a fan of hers.



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PostPosted: 04/17/06 7:30 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mercfan3 wrote:
If Westhead's system works..(Ideally) (This is who I'm assuming makes the team...)


Kelly Miller -6
Cappie Pondexter-8
Belinda Snell-10
Ann Strother -6
Diana Taurasi -18
Penny Taylor -15
Angelina Williams-4
Shereka Wright -2

Kristen Rasmussen -3
Kamila Vodichkova-8
Gwen Jackson-5
Sandora Irvin -8

All right, that's 93 points...maybe I'm the ultimate optimist..but I think every player is capable of averaging that amount of points I've given them..Paul's system is run and gun...and geared towards offense..I think this is what Paul wants..so hopefully he'll get it..


I would swap Snell and Miller, and I don't think Irvin will score 8 ppg, more like 4.


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PostPosted: 04/17/06 3:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

p_d_swanson wrote:
Marjie wrote:
Does anyone know the number of possessions per game in 2005? Does anyone know the average time per possession in 2005? What percent of possessions lasted longer the 24 seconds?


According to knickerblogger.net, last year's average was just short of 72 per team per game, with Detroit (76) playing at the quickest pace and New York (6Cool at the slowest...


My numbers are a little different than knickerblogger's, we probably calculate them differently, but the distribution is right on.

Here is what I have for 2005...

Code:
Team   Poss/GM   Pts/Poss

SAC   69.22   0.96
CON   70.24   1.04
SEA   72.35   1.02
HOU   67.53   1.00
IND   66.64   0.95
NYL   66.31   1.02
PHO   70.00   0.99
LAS   70.48   0.97
DET   72.72   0.91
WAS   67.93   0.98
MIN   69.13   0.94
CHA   68.17   0.91
SAN   68.35   0.92

I could see most of the league averaging in the high 70's to low 80's if they manage to increase the poss/game without losing their scoring efficiency. I would not be surprised to see high powered offenses like the Sun, the Storm and maybe the Mercury break 90 this year. The Sun, Liberty, Storm and Comets all scored 100+ points per 100 possessions last season. The Storm were the only one's to hit that mark in 2004 but 8 teams did it in 2003. The Sun/Storm games should be interesting this year, too bad there are only two of them. Who will be the first team to break 100 this season?


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PostPosted: 04/17/06 4:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Leslie - 15 (9.0 2004)
Holdsclaw - 15 (15.5 2004)
Mabika - 11 (2.0 2004)
Willis - 7
Johnson - 10 (9.3 2004)
Mascriadri - 9 (12.x 2004) lots of points lost if she isn't here this year
Hodges - 3 (1.5 2004)
Thomas - 4 (4.x 2004)
Page - 1 (3.2 2004)
Ha - 1
Vilipec - 0
Total - 76 (67.5 2004 team ave)


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PostPosted: 04/27/06 1:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

OK, I ran some numbers off the 2005 stats...

I estimated...

69.16 poss per team per game
40.34 min per game
1.71 poss per team per minute

If every team played only full 30 second possessions they could only get 80 possessions total, but they actually averaged 138.32 total. If our max number changed to 100 via the 24 second clock where do we fall? If we go with 100/80 * 138.32 we are probably close with the resulting 172.9 possessions per game with each team averaging 86.45 per game (averaging means I ignore the fact that one team or the other generally has a larger share in any given game).

By my pts/poss by team for 2005 this is where I have teams scoring at for the 2006 if they followed their 2005 trends.

SAC 83.37
CON 89.99
SEA 87.96
HOU 86.62
IND 82.33
NYL 88.48
PHO 85.58
LAS 84.12
DET 78.90
WAS 84.50
MIN 81.49
CHA 78.46
SAN 79.83

What this fails to include is the fact that teams tend to speed up at the end of periods other than the final period where the leader often tries to slow things up. I imagine that the move to 4 quarters from two halves may mean extra possessions at the ends of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd quarters. I would need to do a lot more work than I am likely to do to get some estimates on how the W distributed possessions in the final minutes of the periods as opposed to the early minutes. However, this gives a pretty good rough estimate which could have scoring going up by 16-17 ppg with the 24 second clock...


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PostPosted: 04/27/06 4:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mysticsfan07 wrote:
I like Mfon, but if she averages more than Dales, I'll eat BOTH of my shoes.


I can see it if you're adding points AND fouls ... Mfon 4 ppg and 5 fpg Razz


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PostPosted: 04/27/06 4:20 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Sun:

Futrell - 0
Payne - 0


Not sure of anyone else yet!


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PostPosted: 04/27/06 7:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'm not yet convinced that more possessions mean more points. I think you'll see more pressure on the ball in transition which will translate into a reward for teams that can do that effectively, leaving alot less time to execute in the half court.

My guess is scoring won't go up that much over all and it might go down a bit. Of course the teams that can get the ball up quick and execute will score more.

Yea baby, go SUN!



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PostPosted: 04/27/06 10:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Excellent points, and I think you may have hit it on the head...the top 5 offenses could get a little better and the bottom 5 could get a lot worse leading to even less parity in the league. It will be very interesting to see how the brains behind the defenses decide to use the 24 second clock...it is only 8 seconds, but as a fan who came over from the NBA side, I often found myself wondering when they were going to make their move.


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PostPosted: 04/28/06 10:29 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

psheehy wrote:
OK, I ran some numbers off the 2005 stats...

I estimated...

69.16 poss per team per game
40.34 min per game
1.71 poss per team per minute

If every team played only full 30 second possessions they could only get 80 possessions total, but they actually averaged 138.32 total. If our max number changed to 100 via the 24 second clock where do we fall? If we go with 100/80 * 138.32 we are probably close with the resulting 172.9 possessions per game with each team averaging 86.45 per game (averaging means I ignore the fact that one team or the other generally has a larger share in any given game).

By my pts/poss by team for 2005 this is where I have teams scoring at for the 2006 if they followed their 2005 trends.

SAC 83.37
CON 89.99
SEA 87.96
HOU 86.62
IND 82.33
NYL 88.48
PHO 85.58
LAS 84.12
DET 78.90
WAS 84.50
MIN 81.49
CHA 78.46
SAN 79.83

What this fails to include is the fact that teams tend to speed up at the end of periods other than the final period where the leader often tries to slow things up. I imagine that the move to 4 quarters from two halves may mean extra possessions at the ends of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd quarters. I would need to do a lot more work than I am likely to do to get some estimates on how the W distributed possessions in the final minutes of the periods as opposed to the early minutes. However, this gives a pretty good rough estimate which could have scoring going up by 16-17 ppg with the 24 second clock...


I think my eyes glazed over Shocked

.... but you go STAT MONSTER! (said with much respect!)


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PostPosted: 04/29/06 10:30 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Cash- 12.5 ppg,
Riley- 9 ppg
Ford- 10 ppg
Smith- 13.5 ppg
Nolan- 14 ppg
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Holland-Corn- 7.5 ppg
Braxton- 9.5 ppg
Pierson- 6 ppgs
Osipova- 4 ppg
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Telaine- 1 ppg
Coleman- 2 ppg

(I don't know much about these two players but I figured neither will get much PT, especially Zane.)

That's 89 right there... haha, you never know.



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