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pilight
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PUmatty
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Posted: 02/14/06 3:00 pm ::: Re: Coaches poll out |
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pilight wrote: |
http://www.wbca.org/DICoachesPoll.asp
Duke #1
Oklahoma #9
Bowling Green in
St John's out |
I may be dense, and one spot really doesn't matter, but what exactly did Oklahoma do to pass Purdue this week?
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dtsnms
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Posted: 02/14/06 3:05 pm ::: |
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Beat overrated Baylor on OU's home court.
What did Tennessee do to deserve not to fall?
How did UConn get beat by Rutgers and still be TWO spots ahead of them?
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mikey87
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Posted: 02/14/06 3:08 pm ::: |
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just like the REFS won the game against VANDY for the VOLS, I think they should have dropped a couple like any other team that lost a game.
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PUmatty
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IndyPurduefan
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luvDhoops
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Posted: 02/14/06 3:57 pm ::: |
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mikey87 wrote: |
just like the REFS won the game against VANDY for the VOLS, I think they should have dropped a couple like any other team that lost a game. |
I thought the Vols would drop one or two spots too, but technically LSU was supposed to win that game because they were ranked higher. So maybe the pollsters were looking at that. I think it was so much confusion at the top, they just didn't know where to put anyone. If Maryland would have won yesterday it would have really thrown things into disarray.
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desafiada6
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IndyPurduefan
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beknighted
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Posted: 02/14/06 5:13 pm ::: |
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The Tennessee thing kind of makes you scratch your head. Yeah, it was against a higher-ranked team, but it's not like it was 2 v. 15, and it was at home. You'd normally figure that the Lady Vols would drop at least one spot. I'm also not sure I understand why Maryland jumps up 2 spots for beating UNC, but Rutgers doesn't move up at all for beating UConn. Maryland did have the advantage of the two teams ahead of it losing, I suppose, and perhaps some voters didn't want to punish Ohio State for not playing another top 10 team last week or didn't feel they could drop Tennessee and/or UConn more than they did. (Interestingly, Tennessee lost an average of about one spot per ballot, but stayed in 5th.)
Anyway, I've noticed that the coaches' poll tends to have a bit more inertia than the AP poll. It's like some coaches (or assistants or SIDs, whoever's actually voting) don't actually look at the scores every week. As I've said elsewhere, though, things did tighten up considerably, so at least some of them were paying attention.
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mercfan3
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Posted: 02/14/06 6:35 pm ::: |
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This poll makes more since, the only thing I would change would be Tenn and Uconn, I'd switch them..(Ten drops one spot, Uconn drops two)
Also, Rutgers should have gained a spot somehow.
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mercfan3
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Posted: 02/14/06 6:38 pm ::: |
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This poll makes more since, the only thing I would change would be Tenn and Uconn, I'd switch them..(Ten drops one spot, Uconn drops two)
Also, Rutgers should have gained a spot somehow.
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ari20dal7
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Posted: 02/14/06 8:10 pm ::: |
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I'm obviously biased toward Oklahoma, but I'm not sure about the combination of Purdue getting jumped AND Minnesota only dropping to #16. I thought Minny had a horrible week and deserved to go down another few slots. But it seems that the voters still think a lot of Baylor, as they did not drop at all for the loss (not that they really deserved much of a knock).
I probably would have sent OU up, but kicked Minnesota down for their week. They really got pasted twice. 23 to MSU and 32 to Purdue? It may just be that the voters didn't think that Purdue's win over Minnesota said all that much. But if so, how does Minnesota only drop to #16?
Probably a fool's errand to look for consistency in these polls, but either Purdue goes up or Minnesota drops harder in my book.
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ari20dal7
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Posted: 02/14/06 8:13 pm ::: |
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Also, I think the sweep over Baylor was what really spurred the coaches to reward OU for the unbeaten Big XII run. Not the feat it would have been in years past, but still an undeniably significant accomplishment to this point. The AP's been a week or two ahead on that, probably because of all the Courtney Paris coverage.
I agree that Baylor might be overrated, but not all that darn much. This team will be a factor in March and I wouldn't want them getting a 4-5 seed in my bracket.
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swok34
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Posted: 02/14/06 8:29 pm ::: |
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ari20dal7 wrote: |
I agree that Baylor might be overrated, but not all that darn much. This team will be a factor in March and I wouldn't want them getting a 4-5 seed in my bracket. |
For some reason, they ALWAYS play OU well. A lot of coaches were able to see OU on national TV as well. Maybe that made a difference.
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bballfan2005
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accommodatingly
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Posted: 02/14/06 11:38 pm ::: |
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I'm not sure I would have voted for Minnesota at all this week, and I'm a Gopher fan, as some of you know. If they lose to Ohio State narrowly and beat Wisconsin, I'll have them back in at #23 or something. If they lose to Wisconsin at Wisconsin, they're out. (A loss to Wisconsin, Indiana or Northwestern-- the other remaining teams on the Gophers' schedule-- would also put them in bubble territory: with only one loss so far to an unranked team, I think as of now the Gophers are still in.)
Oklahoma and Purdue, at the moment, strike me as more Final Four material than either Tennessee or UConn. I'm tempted to say that I'd put them at 5 and 6. (Though there's also Rutgers.)
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dukemayo
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Posted: 02/15/06 1:30 pm ::: |
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At least 5 coaches had the good sense to give UNC their 1st-place votes. Those 28 1st-place votes for Duke (23) and UNC (5) should have been split something like 15-13 with UNC coming out ahead imo, and I'm a Duke fan. I just continue to see UNC as #1 until we beat them (and I was at UNC's loss to Maryland).
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