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Zakiwi
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pilight
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Posted: 01/25/06 6:43 pm ::: |
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Anyone surprised that there are no Purdue players on the list?
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PUmatty
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IndyPurduefan
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Posted: 01/25/06 6:47 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Anyone surprised that there are no Purdue players on the list? |
At first I was a little ticked, but then I thought about how the Boilers have been winning this year, and there truly is no go-to player night in and night out. This year's version of Purdue is winning with team defense and usually a different high scorer every night that rotates amongst Erin Lawless, Katie Gearlds, Aya Traore and Lyndsay Wisdom-Hylton, so while I would like to have seen a Purdue name up there, I can certainly handle it if they keep up the team ball they've been playing.
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IndyPurduefan
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umbeta1455
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Posted: 01/25/06 7:00 pm ::: |
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Uconn is the other team not considered to have a top 20 player either. Strother is an honorable mention though.
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 01/25/06 7:34 pm ::: |
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This was done before the Duke-Tennessee game. Wonder if Lindsey Harding's performance changes Clay's mind as to whether she deserves one of the others considered/honorable mention nods.
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stever
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Posted: 01/25/06 7:39 pm ::: |
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I'm intrigued by this Ambrosia Anderson kid at BYU...has anyone seen her this season? |
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 01/25/06 7:43 pm ::: |
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The list is individual players. Team records may be a part of it, but individual performances is what Clay is referring to. Hence, the inclusion of Tamara James...
As for Harding, the list was created before Monday night's game. That being said...Harding could have been on the list or on the list of other players considered.
Here is a thought...when someone makes a comment that a certain player should have been included on the list, who should be taken off? That, to me, is the harder part.
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ucbart
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Posted: 01/25/06 7:52 pm ::: |
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CamrnCrz1974 wrote: |
The list is individual players. Team records may be a part of it, but individual performances is what Clay is referring to. Hence, the inclusion of Tamara James...
As for Harding, the list was created before Monday night's game. That being said...Harding could have been on the list or on the list of other players considered.
Here is a thought...when someone makes a comment that a certain player should have been included on the list, who should be taken off? That, to me, is the harder part. |
Ann Strother being left off this list for a player at BYU is ignorance. Our team was a mess last year, and the biggest improvement for us this year, is the stellar game of Ann Strother. She does everything for UCONN, just take a look at the Big East staistics.
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CamrnCrz1974
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Posted: 01/25/06 8:09 pm ::: |
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Ann Strother being left off this list for a player at BYU is ignorance. |
Ann was listed as another player considered.
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ucbart
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 2815 Location: New York
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Posted: 01/25/06 8:21 pm ::: |
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CamrnCrz1974 wrote: |
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Ann Strother being left off this list for a player at BYU is ignorance. |
Ann was listed as another player considered. |
I know, but to me, she wasn't listed.
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bullsky
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Posted: 01/25/06 8:53 pm ::: |
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Both Quigley and Rubino arent top 20 players, but they should definetly be seen as two of the most underrated players in the nation. Quigley is almost automatic from three point land.
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pilight
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Posted: 01/26/06 6:24 am ::: |
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Megan Duffy is "clearly the best PG in the country"?
I still don't see it. Most people don't want their PG to lead the team in FGA, and they certainly don't want that when she shoots under 40% from the floor. The only difference between her and Carolyn Kieger is that Duffy jacks up twice as many shots.
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HomerCecil
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Posted: 01/26/06 9:04 am ::: |
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Ann Strother being left off this list for a player at BYU is ignorance.[quote]
Singling out a player that you have never seen play and removing them from the list despite never seeing her play is ignorance defined...
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mikey87
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ucbart
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Zakiwi
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Posted: 01/26/06 5:03 pm ::: |
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ucbart wrote: |
Well, I have seen Jessica Dickson play, and I can tell you this right now, Ann Strother is better than her. |
Hard to argue that a player not even in the top 50 in scoring is better than the player who's #1.
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bballfan2005
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Posted: 01/26/06 5:35 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
The only difference between her and Carolyn Kieger is that Duffy jacks up twice as many shots. |
Doesn't Kieger average more assists per game than Duffy?
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ThreeBall25
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Posted: 01/26/06 5:48 pm ::: |
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Give me USF's SOS and UConn's. Then we will start talking. I think a comparison of scoring vs. ranked teams also. Then we can start talking. Plus, UConn shut down Dickson and Strother just out played her.
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Keegan
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Posted: 01/26/06 5:51 pm ::: |
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Plus, UConn shut down Dickson |
Dickson isn't exactly surrounded by the same talent as Strother is. |
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pilight
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Posted: 01/26/06 5:54 pm ::: |
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bballfan2005 wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
The only difference between her and Carolyn Kieger is that Duffy jacks up twice as many shots. |
Doesn't Kieger average more assists per game than Duffy? |
Yes, about three more per game with a better ATO. Duffy gets more steals.
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mikey87
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Posted: 01/26/06 7:56 pm ::: |
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USF's SOS is #20-not the same thing as UConn's #5, but hardly anything to sniff at. You probably saw Dickson's worst game of the year against UConn. It would be like judging Strother on her perforamance against LSU. Dickson has put up really good numbers against really good teams (see below). I agree that Strother should be on the list, but your beef isn't with Dickson.
Dickson #'s vs. ranked teams (excluding UC):
UNC: 18pts, 10bds
DePaul: 35pts, 6bds
Mich St: 25pts, 5bds
LSU: 11pts, 7bds
RU: 37pts, 9bds
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