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BCBG25
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 20112 Location: Sampa
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Posted: 02/22/05 7:54 pm ::: Cablevision shuffles sports holdings (and the Liberty) |
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The Bethpage, Long Island, cable operator will gain full ownership of the New York Knicks basketball team, the WNBA's New York Liberty and the Rangers hockey team, as well as Radio City Entertainment, the MSG Network cable channel and regional sports networks FSN New York and Chicago.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050222/media_nm/media_cablevision_newscorp_dc_1
Will the Knicks and Liberty (and Rangers) get rid of the Dolans soon?
Worse, will they be owned by Rupert Murdoch???
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Queenie
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18029 Location: Queens
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Posted: 02/23/05 8:14 am ::: |
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*knocks on wood* C'mon, don't let the arseholes take over for good!
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KeiraNY
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 12683 Location: New York, NY
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Posted: 02/23/05 9:37 am ::: Re: Cablevision shuffles sports holdings (and the Liberty) |
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Please no Rupert Murdoch!! That'll be the WORST thing to happen...he can stay w/ Fox Jazeera! We don't want him!
BCBG25 wrote: |
The Bethpage, Long Island, cable operator will gain full ownership of the New York Knicks basketball team, the WNBA's New York Liberty and the Rangers hockey team, as well as Radio City Entertainment, the MSG Network cable channel and regional sports networks FSN New York and Chicago.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050222/media_nm/media_cablevision_newscorp_dc_1
Will the Knicks and Liberty (and Rangers) get rid of the Dolans soon?
Worse, will they be owned by Rupert Murdoch??? |
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herrade
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 2308 Location: Twin Peaks
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Posted: 02/23/05 10:14 am ::: Re: Cablevision shuffles sports holdings (and the Liberty) |
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KeiraNY wrote: |
Please no Rupert Murdoch!! That'll be the WORST thing to happen...he can stay w/ Fox Jazeera! We don't want him! |
this is really bad news. it often seems like the liberty franchise has been a pet project of the dolans'. would murdoch or any other media tycoon have such allegiance? don't think so.
i guess the bright side is that i probably won't be in ny for more than another 2 years, so if there's no ny wnba team it won't be so painful for me.
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accommodatingly
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 2191 Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Posted: 02/23/05 10:29 am ::: Re: Cablevision shuffles sports holdings (and the Liberty) |
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herrade wrote: |
KeiraNY wrote: |
Please no Rupert Murdoch!! That'll be the WORST thing to happen...he can stay w/ Fox Jazeera! We don't want him! |
this is really bad news. it often seems like the liberty franchise has been a pet project of the dolans'. would murdoch or any other media tycoon have such allegiance? don't think so.
i guess the bright side is that i probably won't be in ny for more than another 2 years, so if there's no ny wnba team it won't be so painful for me. |
Wait, article doesn't at all suggest that Murdoch or News Corp will take more control of Lib/Knicks-- it says News Corp has divested (on paper) sports assets. The problem is that the shuffle means Cablevision, and its Knicks/Lib holdings, can now be sold.
Aren't the Lib one of the two or three teams that supposedly make money? It's hard to imagine they wouldn't find a buyer. I suppose the danger is that whoever purchased Cablevision whole would then want to spin off the Knicks, and top bidder for the Knicks may or may not be someone friendly to the women's game. By then, though, the W will be a friendlier place for non-NBA owners-- maybe the Lib will want a divorce from the Knicks?
All speculative, in any case, with fallout maybe not for years.
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herrade
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Posted: 02/23/05 10:31 am ::: Re: Cablevision shuffles sports holdings (and the Liberty) |
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accommodatingly wrote: |
All speculative, in any case... |
and optimistic.
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el_barrio_96_125
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 1411
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Posted: 02/23/05 11:04 am ::: |
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Nothing is going to happen any time soon. All Dolan did was gain complete control of his teams and buildings. They are trying to make it easier to sell Cablevision, not MSG LLP. Charles Dolan wants to get into the satellite business, Jim doesn't. Charles couldn't care less about sports, Jim loves his teams. So they'll probably sell the cable company within the next 5 years and keep MSG and all of its affiliates.
Jim Dolan would have to leave, or be bought out or fired by Charles before they sell the cable company in order for him to lose control of the teams, the Garden and RCMH and I don't see that happening. The West Side Stadium fight is the key. Bloomberg has already said there is no way he'll let the Dolans win so the fans only hope is that they piss off enough polititans, tax payers who want the stadium and communtity types to be forced out of the Garden at which point they'd have to sell the teams because as we know, teams don't make profits and the Garden and RCMH are the money makers. Also, remember, the Nets are on their way. An arena in Brooklyn and a West Side stadium would kill the Garden in terms of hosting all of those concerts and conventions, not to mention the revenue they might lose from basketball fans going elsewhere.
All that said, Jim Dolan is good for the Liberty. He just needs to pay a little more attention to the on the court problems. In his mind, Blaze isn't incompetent because the Liberty don't lose real money and they aren't a public relations nightmare. But we all know NY fans only tolerate so much and with Blaze at the helm for too much longer, they will begin to lose money and they've already started their quest to become a pr nightmare on a WNBA scale at least. So eventually she will be gone. Dolan is good for the team because to him, they're part of the package. He's not one of those owners who shoo's his WNBA team off to the side and doesn't really want them. Dolan really isn't a bad guy. He's actually quite nice. He's just a medling owner with too much money who really doesn't know much about basketball. |
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KeiraNY
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 12683 Location: New York, NY
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Posted: 02/23/05 12:13 pm ::: |
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I think Jim Dolan could take a page out of Steinbrenner's book in terms of how to succeed in NY. Granted the W doesn't have the pockets the Yanks have, but Steinbrenner's mentality is what you just said, NYers don't like crap. We put up with some for shorter periods, preferrably. The Knicks are giving tix away...they can't get people to go see that sinking ship. If Dolan loves his teams so much, a little more effort into them would only help the cause!
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Nothing is going to happen any time soon. All Dolan did was gain complete control of his teams and buildings. They are trying to make it easier to sell Cablevision, not MSG LLP. Charles Dolan wants to get into the satellite business, Jim doesn't. Charles couldn't care less about sports, Jim loves his teams. So they'll probably sell the cable company within the next 5 years and keep MSG and all of its affiliates.
Jim Dolan would have to leave, or be bought out or fired by Charles before they sell the cable company in order for him to lose control of the teams, the Garden and RCMH and I don't see that happening. The West Side Stadium fight is the key. Bloomberg has already said there is no way he'll let the Dolans win so the fans only hope is that they piss off enough polititans, tax payers who want the stadium and communtity types to be forced out of the Garden at which point they'd have to sell the teams because as we know, teams don't make profits and the Garden and RCMH are the money makers. Also, remember, the Nets are on their way. An arena in Brooklyn and a West Side stadium would kill the Garden in terms of hosting all of those concerts and conventions, not to mention the revenue they might lose from basketball fans going elsewhere.
All that said, Jim Dolan is good for the Liberty. He just needs to pay a little more attention to the on the court problems. In his mind, Blaze isn't incompetent because the Liberty don't lose real money and they aren't a public relations nightmare. But we all know NY fans only tolerate so much and with Blaze at the helm for too much longer, they will begin to lose money and they've already started their quest to become a pr nightmare on a WNBA scale at least. So eventually she will be gone. Dolan is good for the team because to him, they're part of the package. He's not one of those owners who shoo's his WNBA team off to the side and doesn't really want them. Dolan really isn't a bad guy. He's actually quite nice. He's just a medling owner with too much money who really doesn't know much about basketball. |
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