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PostPosted: 09/16/23 10:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

WNBA 09 wrote:
ucbart wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
I hope everyone comes out but won’t be shocked if Reese and/or Bueckers use their 5th year.

I will include them in all mocks until we know for sure.


I hope Paige comes back. She's essentially played 1.5 years of college basketball, she's making a ton of money and I think she has a better likelihood of going #1 in 2025 than she does in 2024.


Her #1 likelihood continues to drop as she's gotten the moniquer of "Injury Prone" to WNBA Gm's around the league rn. If Money and the Nati are the most important things of paige's future i pray she stays healthy because the W has a short stick for player's who have had multiple injuries in high school/ college. If anything UCONN should take a page no pun out of Stanford and ND's playbook and stop announcing the injuries as that effect's their stock immediately once put out .


If Paige has an injury-free season, she should come out. Same with Azzi Fudd.

Is there a reason that going #1 is important? Is there some rookie contract deal where the #1 makes more money, or is it simply a bargaining point? All other things being equal, if you're not the #1, you're generally going to a better team.


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PostPosted: 09/17/23 8:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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With that said let’s see how wrong I am

1. Indy Clark (Clark/Boston yes please)
2. PX Bueckers (seems like the perfect replacement for Taurasi)
3. LA Brink (Stanford connection with the Ogwumike’s, Miller will like her)
4. Seattle Cardosa (all star front court with Magbegor in a couple of years)
5. Dallas from chi R. Jackson (Jackson could sneak into lottery but fits great as a bench player in A deep Dallas contender behind Sabally and Howard)
6. Wash Edwards (they need a PF to replace Hines-Allen and pair with Austin in post EDD years)
7. Atlanta Reese (I would take her higher probably with LA’s pick, but Reese/Howard seems cool and Atlanta needs another polarizing Angel)
8. Dallas C. Taylor (with Soares waiting in the wings and having already drafted Jackson Dallas goes perimeter 3 and d glue player with maturity instead of post)
9. Minn Kitley (Minn need a true post to build with Collier and McBride)
10. Conn C. Osborne (perimeter scoring fits assuming B. Jones is back next year)
11. NY J. Sheldon (NY needs perimeter defense size and shooting and it’s an Olympic years so how much will we see Johannes)
12. LA from LV M. Holmes (La needs to add a wing she seems the best left)

I am sure I forgot someone but good for now



I with you 100% we need a backup pg/sg with Johannes possibly leaving for the Olympics.

Sheldon would be perfect fit for NY and if Hailey van Lith slides to 11 we gotta scoop her up cuz I know Kim Mulkley will give her all that knowledge to play the PG


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NYSports56 wrote:

Is there a reason that going #1 is important? Is there some rookie contract deal where the #1 makes more money, or is it simply a bargaining point? All other things being equal, if you're not the #1, you're generally going to a better team.


There is a bonus for going #1.



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Rookie scale salary is the same for 1-4.



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PostPosted: 09/17/23 10:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Is there a reason that going #1 is important? Is there some rookie contract deal where the #1 makes more money, or is it simply a bargaining point? All other things being equal, if you're not the #1, you're generally going to a better team.


For some players, being the #1 pick ends up being the highlight of their WNBA career.



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PostPosted: 09/18/23 2:24 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

readyAIMfire53 wrote:
NYSports56 wrote:


Is there a reason that going #1 is important? Is there some rookie contract deal where the #1 makes more money, or is it simply a bargaining point? All other things being equal, if you're not the #1, you're generally going to a better team.


For some players, being the #1 pick ends up being the highlight of their WNBA career.


That's a little dramatic. Every #1 pick in the last 20 years besides Janel McCarville, Lindsey Harding and Charli Collier has been a legit All-Star. Harding was a 6 year starter and McCarville was a starter on a Championship team. Charli's the only one that's been a true flop.

Now, the #2 pick...oof, that's a different story.



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PickledGinger wrote:
readyAIMfire53 wrote:
NYSports56 wrote:


Is there a reason that going #1 is important? Is there some rookie contract deal where the #1 makes more money, or is it simply a bargaining point? All other things being equal, if you're not the #1, you're generally going to a better team.


For some players, being the #1 pick ends up being the highlight of their WNBA career.


That's a little dramatic. Every #1 pick in the last 20 years besides Janel McCarville, Lindsey Harding and Charli Collier has been a legit All-Star. Harding was a 6 year starter and McCarville was a starter on a Championship team. Charli's the only one that's been a true flop.

Now, the #2 pick...oof, that's a different story.


Agreed , but assuming the rookie is going to play overseas to start her pro career there's a big difference in contracts for #1 versus 2-10 etc...not a lot in the W.



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PostPosted: 09/21/23 12:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

i didn't see this in the thread yet, but may have missed it.
is there a list of players who are seniors with no eligibility left (as of now, assuming no redshirt injury going forward)?


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snlMINAJ wrote:
i didn't see this in the thread yet, but may have missed it.
is there a list of players who are seniors with no eligibility left (as of now, assuming no redshirt injury going forward)?


Rickea Jackson, Elizabeth Kitley, Charisma Osborne, Celeste Taylor, Mackenzie Holmes, Jacy Sheldon and Alissa Pili are the most noteworthy 5th years. Pretty much everyone else being talked about can stay if they want.



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The WNBA is expanding. How does it affect Caitlin Clark?
https://www.deseret.com/2023/10/4/23903438/wnba-expansion-affects-caitlin-clark-iowa

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“I’m going to go based off of my gut,” she said on Wednesday, according to The Athletic. “I’m going to know when I need to know if I want to stay or if I want to go.”


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If the WNBA follows historical precedent, Golden State will not have the No. 1 pick in the 2025 WNBA draft.

In 2008 when the last expansion team participated in their first college draft, the Atlanta Dream originally had the fourth overall pick before trading down for the eighth pick, according to the WNBA.



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Shades wrote:
The WNBA is expanding. How does it affect Caitlin Clark?
https://www.deseret.com/2023/10/4/23903438/wnba-expansion-affects-caitlin-clark-iowa

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“I’m going to go based off of my gut,” she said on Wednesday, according to The Athletic. “I’m going to know when I need to know if I want to stay or if I want to go.”


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If the WNBA follows historical precedent, Golden State will not have the No. 1 pick in the 2025 WNBA draft.

In 2008 when the last expansion team participated in their first college draft, the Atlanta Dream originally had the fourth overall pick before trading down for the eighth pick, according to the WNBA.


I pray folks in Oakland or SF dont read this and assume their getting the #1 or 2 or 3 Pick Laughing Laughing Laughing Most likely there will be 2 teams at that time and im for certain current WNBA franchises wont succeed to giving up mulptiple players and a front line draft pick . It's either or Cool Cool



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snlMINAJ wrote:
i didn't see this in the thread yet, but may have missed it.
is there a list of players who are seniors with no eligibility left (as of now, assuming no redshirt injury going forward)?


This announcement gives me the thoughts of Cameron Brink staying an extra year all of a sudden . Confused Shocked



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It's great that the WNBA is adding new teams to the league. But I do have a question for all of you savvy business people out there. Would it be better for any top college prospects to leave school in 2024 or 2025?



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WNBA 09 wrote:
snlMINAJ wrote:
i didn't see this in the thread yet, but may have missed it.
is there a list of players who are seniors with no eligibility left (as of now, assuming no redshirt injury going forward)?


This announcement gives me the thoughts of Cameron Brink staying an extra year all of a sudden . Confused Shocked


If she wants to play for the new Golden State team she’d probably have a better chance of getting selected in the expansion draft or traded for than being available when the Golden State teams gets their first round draft pick.


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I’ve also been thinking about how the expansion would affect Brink’s decision. She has the Steph Curry as her godbrother connection to Golden State. But her hometown is Beaverton, which is in the Portland area. If they use the same draft methods as before, I think it’d be difficult for either expansion team to acquire her with the 2025 college draft or the 2025 expansion draft if she would enter the 2024 college draft.

But SEA is in a good position to draft her in 2024, so maybe that’s close enough for now, if she’s interested in the hometown aspect?. Portland is 174 miles from Seattle. I get the feeling she’s somewhat worldly, so maybe she doesn’t really care about the hometown aspect.



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Brink billboard in Portland. Maybe she does have plenty of hometown feels.



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2023 Preseason Wade Watch List
Georgia Amoore (4), Virginia Tech
Cameron Brink (4), Stanford
Paige Bueckers (RSJ), UConn
Kamilla Cardoso (4), South Carolina
Caitlin Clark (4), Iowa
Aaliyah Edwards (4), UConn
Rori Harmon (JR), Texas
Mackenzie Holmes (5), Indiana
Rickea Jackson (5), Tennessee
Elizabeth Kitley (5), Virginia Tech
Ta’Niya Latson (SO), Florida State
Olivia Miles (JR2003), Notre Dame
Aneesah Morrow (JR2003) , LSU
Alissa Pili (5), Utah
Angel Reese (4), LSU - LSU and ESPN still labeling her a JR
Hailey Van Lith (4), LSU



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I’m going to be keeping a watchful eye on this fifth year grad student.



where's ms owusu been?


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Parked on the bench, supposedly recovering from an injury.



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Parked on the bench, supposedly recovering from an injury.
Hopefully getting some growing up experiences after playing for three different college teams in 3 years. We've had a slew of great talents sabotaging their BB career by not growing up well or getting the right advisors so they're learning the right lessons. I'd love to see Owusu displaying her talent in the WNBA. Currently there's zero chance Thibault brings her to DC.



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Ayoka Lee (pretty much overlooked by everybody) vs Caitlin Clark tonight on FS1



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Ayoka Lee (pretty much overlooked by everybody) vs Caitlin Clark tonight on FS1


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