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PostPosted: 03/14/23 12:53 pm    ::: Winning them both Reply Reply with quote

25 schools got both their men's and women's teams into the big dance. Which one has the best chance to win both?

Alabama
Arizona
Baylor
Connecticut
Creighton
Drake
Duke
Gonzaga
Illinois
Indiana
Iona
Iowa
Marquette
Maryland
Miami (FL)
Mississippi State
NC State
Princeton
Purdue
Tennessee
Texas
UCLA
USC
Vermont
West Virginia



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PostPosted: 03/14/23 1:26 pm    ::: Re: Winning them both Reply Reply with quote

UConn feels like the only team with anything but a miniscule chance.


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PostPosted: 03/14/23 1:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

" Best" chance of this group? Probably Texas, Tenn or UCLA.

Actual chance to win both? None. Not even close. Seems much further from actual chance than usual, if my memory serves me.


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PostPosted: 03/14/23 1:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I'll add Indiana to the list.


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PostPosted: 03/14/23 1:58 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

singinerd54 wrote:
I'll add Indiana to the list.


Having seen both Indiana teams sweep my Boilers this year, I blocked them from my mind ....


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PostPosted: 03/14/23 2:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
" Best" chance of this group? Probably Texas, Tenn or UCLA.

Actual chance to win both? None. Not even close. Seems much further from actual chance than usual, if my memory serves me.


Interesting to me that only three No. 1 seeds across both tournaments (Purdue, Alabama, Indiana) see their counterpart team even make the cut. I don't know historical numbers, but that feels like it has to be on the low side.


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PostPosted: 03/14/23 2:25 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Duke men are the 5 seed with the best chance of winning it all, given recent redhot play. For Duke women, making the FF would be a HUGE upset, of epic proportions. Kind of like Duke women's first FF in 1999, beating #2 ODU and #1 (overall) Tennessee. Unfortunately, this team does not have the knock down shooters the 99 team had.

I have to agree that it's highly unlikely to happen this year for any school.



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PostPosted: 03/14/23 4:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

readyAIMfire53 wrote:
Duke men are the 5 seed with the best chance of winning it all, given recent redhot play. For Duke women, making the FF would be a HUGE upset, of epic proportions. Kind of like Duke women's first FF in 1999, beating #2 ODU and #1 (overall) Tennessee. Unfortunately, this team does not have the knock down shooters the 99 team had.

I have to agree that it's highly unlikely to happen this year for any school.


Duke men would likely have to beat a Sweet 16 opponent that has already blown them out once this season ...


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PostPosted: 03/14/23 4:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't follow MCBB anymore, but I caught the end of the ESPN bracket reveal show and I believe all four talking heads had the UConn men in the FF, and Jay Bilas had UConn winning the NC.

So, I'd say UConn for the bi-NC.
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PostPosted: 03/14/23 4:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

PUmatty wrote:
Interesting to me that only three No. 1 seeds across both tournaments (Purdue, Alabama, Indiana) see their counterpart team even make the cut. I don't know historical numbers, but that feels like it has to be on the low side.


The record low is two which has happened 10 times, most recently in 2018. Check this chart:



* = school was #1 seed in both tournaments



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PostPosted: 03/15/23 12:41 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

An interesting additional note ... 14 schools made both men's and women's tournaments AND played in an FBS bowl game.

Alabama
Baylor
Duke
Illinois
Iowa
Maryland
Mississippi State
NC State
Purdue
Tennessee
Texas
UCLA
UConn
USC


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PostPosted: 03/16/23 1:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GlennMacGrady wrote:
I don't follow MCBB anymore, but I caught the end of the ESPN bracket reveal show and I believe all four talking heads had the UConn men in the FF, and Jay Bilas had UConn winning the NC.

So, I'd say UConn for the bi-NC.


ESPN picking a winner in any sport is the kiss of death. So I guess I'll consider my men's bracket busted now. Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: 03/16/23 2:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Stonington_QB wrote:
GlennMacGrady wrote:
I don't follow MCBB anymore, but I caught the end of the ESPN bracket reveal show and I believe all four talking heads had the UConn men in the FF, and Jay Bilas had UConn winning the NC.

So, I'd say UConn for the bi-NC.


ESPN picking a winner in any sport is the kiss of death. So I guess I'll consider my men's bracket busted now. Evil or Very Mad


Well unless you picked 13 seed Furman to upset UVA, it's busted anyhow.

They said it's Furman's first time in the tournament in 40+ years, if I heard them correctly. Congrats to them.


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PostPosted: 03/16/23 2:12 pm    ::: Re: Winning them both Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
25 schools got both their men's and women's teams into the big dance. Which one has the best chance to win both?

Alabama
Arizona
Baylor
Connecticut
Creighton
Drake
Duke
Gonzaga
Illinois
Indiana
Iona
Iowa
Marquette
Maryland
Miami (FL)
Mississippi State
NC State
Princeton
Purdue
Tennessee
Texas
UCLA
USC
Vermont
West Virginia


plus Iowa State


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PostPosted: 03/16/23 7:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Are you keeping track of first one to win neither?

11 seed Illinois women lost to 11 seed Miss St.

Now 9 seed Illinois men have lost to 8 seed Arkansas.

So Pilight, is that a record for a quick exit, for one school that made it into both tournaments (something to be applauded by the way) loses in a play-in game and a 1st round game?

Hey. It's still better than not making it with one or both teams, but has to be really disappointing for their fans.


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PostPosted: 03/17/23 9:43 am    ::: Re: Winning them both Reply Reply with quote

23 survived the play-in games

Alabama
Arizona
Baylor
Connecticut
Creighton
Drake
Duke
Gonzaga
Indiana
Iona
Iowa
Iowa State
Marquette
Maryland
Miami (FL)
NC State
Princeton
Tennessee
Texas
UCLA
USC
Vermont
West Virginia



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PostPosted: 03/17/23 9:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Ok, so, we all root for Vermont to win both, right? What a cinderella story that would be after Vermont's *ugly* win to clinch their berth.


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PostPosted: 03/17/23 2:28 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Coyotes wrote:
Ok, so, we all root for Vermont to win both, right? What a cinderella story that would be after Vermont's *ugly* win to clinch their berth.


I'm guessing MarquetteFan isn't rooting for them right now



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PostPosted: 03/17/23 5:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Probably not Tennessee, much as I hate to say it. The guys lost their PG a to an ACL (not just the ladies it happens to!) so that’s kinda by committee, and they have a distressing habit of doing something dumb at the wrong time.



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PostPosted: 03/17/23 8:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

ArtBest23 wrote:
Are you keeping track of first one to win neither?

11 seed Illinois women lost to 11 seed Miss St.

Now 9 seed Illinois men have lost to 8 seed Arkansas.

So Pilight, is that a record for a quick exit, for one school that made it into both tournaments (something to be applauded by the way) loses in a play-in game and a 1st round game?

Hey. It's still better than not making it with one or both teams, but has to be really disappointing for their fans.


Purdue just went the same way



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PostPosted: 03/18/23 4:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Are you keeping track of first one to win neither?

11 seed Illinois women lost to 11 seed Miss St.

Now 9 seed Illinois men have lost to 8 seed Arkansas.

So Pilight, is that a record for a quick exit, for one school that made it into both tournaments (something to be applauded by the way) loses in a play-in game and a 1st round game?

Hey. It's still better than not making it with one or both teams, but has to be really disappointing for their fans.


Purdue just went the same way


Woof. That was brutal. The worst fan experience of my life. Even if everyone comes back and this team is ranked No. 1 for a while next year again, it will be very hard for me to get excited at all.


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PostPosted: 03/19/23 6:53 pm    ::: Re: Winning them both Reply Reply with quote

Forgot last night, but 10 survived the first round

Baylor
Connecticut
Duke
Indiana
Maryland
Miami (FL)
Princeton
Tennessee
Texas
UCLA



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PostPosted: 03/20/23 11:50 pm    ::: Re: Winning them both Reply Reply with quote

Four survived round two

Connecticut
Miami (FL)
Tennessee
UCLA



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PostPosted: 03/21/23 6:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
ArtBest23 wrote:
Are you keeping track of first one to win neither?

11 seed Illinois women lost to 11 seed Miss St.

Now 9 seed Illinois men have lost to 8 seed Arkansas.

So Pilight, is that a record for a quick exit, for one school that made it into both tournaments (something to be applauded by the way) loses in a play-in game and a 1st round game?

Hey. It's still better than not making it with one or both teams, but has to be really disappointing for their fans.


Purdue just went the same way



In the same city...


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PostPosted: 03/24/23 2:07 pm    ::: Re: Winning them both Reply Reply with quote

pilight wrote:
Four survived round two

Connecticut
Miami (FL)
Tennessee
UCLA


Now it’s down to two—and probably one after tonight. UConn is not impossible but I still wouldn’t bet that way.


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