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PostPosted: 02/17/05 7:18 pm    ::: Jumping from HS Reply Reply with quote

Now that we've reached the All-Star break, let's see how the nine High School kids that declared for the NBA draft are doing...

Jackie Butler. Undrafted. Starting for the Great Lakes Storm in the CBA after being cut in camp by the T-Wolves.

Dwight Howard. Drafted #1 by Orlando. Has started every game, averaging 31.9 minutes, 10.5 points and 9.8 rebounds per game. A servicable starter for a mid-pack east team.

Al Jefferson. Drafted #14 by Boston. Played in 43 games, avergaing 15.5 minutes, 6.9 points per game. Third guy off the bench (after Davis & Allen) for a .500-ish east team.

Shaun Livingston. Drafted #4 by the Clippers. Played 11 games before injuring his right knee. Was reactivated about a week ago. Avergaing 21.8 minutes, 5.5 points per game. 9th player in Dunleavy's wacky rotation for a bad team.

JR Smith. Drafted #18 by New Orleans. Has played in 47 of 53 games, starting 27 of them. Averaging 20.9 minutes and 7.6 points per game. Has won a starting position for the worst team in the league despite shooting 38% from the field.

Josh Smith. Drafted #17 by Atlanta. Has played in 43 of 51 games, starting 28 of them. Averaging 23.6 minutes, 7.9 points per game. Has won a starting position for the team with the worst record in the league. He's the only one of the bunch I've seen in person, and like everyone on the Hawks he's pretty terrible.

Robert Swift. Drafted #12 by Seattle. Has played in 9 games, averaging 3.4 minutes and 0.4 points per game. That's the end of the bench, albeit on a good team.

Sebastian Telfair. Drafted #13 by Portland. Has played in 39 games, averaging 10.6 minutes and 4.2 points per game. Injury to James Thomas (who?) moved him up to a fight with Travis Outlaw for the 9th spot on a bad team.

Dorell Wright. Drafted #19 by Miami. Played 2 scoreless minutes in 1 game. Shaq's towel boy.


So, the average of these HS phenoms at the break? 27 games, 14.4 mpg, 4.7 ppg. Maybe 3 or 4 are decent, none are stars. None of them are serious ROY contenders. All of them would have benefitted from college ball.

This is nothing new, of course. Kwame Brown and DeShawn Stevenson and plenty of others have demonstrated the mediocrity of the straight outta HS ballers before. The only real question is why teams draft them so high...



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PostPosted: 02/17/05 9:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

... because they're seeking the next Kevin Garnett/Kobe Bryant.
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PostPosted: 02/18/05 2:37 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

And Kobe and Garnett were not instant stars in their first seasons. Not everyone is LeBron.


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PostPosted: 02/18/05 2:51 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

If Amare Stoudemire went to college, he wouldn't have been available at #9 for the Phoenix Suns. Because he didn't go to college, Amare's stock was low, and as the saying goes, buy low, sell high Razz



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PostPosted: 02/18/05 3:27 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Amare went lower because of the rumors about his background and the people with whom he surrounded himself. Amare the HS player is completely different from Amrea the NBA player.

Say it, Admiral...you have not gotten over the Warriors not taking him. Laughing


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PostPosted: 02/18/05 3:53 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Rumors? Just more excuses for GMs... Though I wonder if Phoenix started some of them to ensure Amare's drop to #9 Twisted Evil

Yep, came this close to an exciting and decently competitive lineup Confused Arrow

    Arenas/Boykins
    Richardson/Sura
    Jamison/Pietrus
    Amare/Murphy
    Dampier/Foyle



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PostPosted: 02/18/05 8:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

There are what, 5 or 6 players out of high school on the All-Stars rosters?
I agree, few (if any) are as good as LeBron right away, but it pays off after a while. Plus, it's all about the benjamins. Kids won't pass up on millions to go to college. They just won't. Either the league does something, or they will go as far as recruiting 9-year olds, like they do here in Brazil.
BTW, 8 teams, including the Knicks, passed up on Stoudemire. Not only the Warriors. But as Mark Heisler of the L.A. Times said, ''There's no truth to the rumor Stern is prepared to go to 30 divisions so the Knicks can finish first.''



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PostPosted: 02/18/05 8:50 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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There are what, 5 or 6 players out of high school on the All-Stars rosters?
I agree, few (if any) are as good as LeBron right away, but it pays off after a while.


I counted 7, but under the current CBA it's hard to keep them long enough to pay off. You think Portland is happy that Jermaine O'Neal finally panned out? Many (most) of these kids will be out of the league before they can turn into anything. Kwame Brown will be unemployed by the time his HS classmates are finishing college.

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Plus, it's all about the benjamins. Kids won't pass up on millions to go to college. They just won't. Either the league does something, or they will go as far as recruiting 9-year olds, like they do here in Brazil.


Jackie Butler is really racking up, I'm sure. Nearly all of these kids would make more money in the long run if they went the college route and came out more fully developed.



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