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PostPosted: 09/07/22 11:27 pm    ::: Let's talk about non-conference schedules. Reply Reply with quote

Is it just me, or is it just the Northeast, or are non-conference schedules this year mostly very regional with one big fancy trip in November or thereabouts? I’ve been putting together my annual spreadsheet, and it seems like the same set of 10 or so teams are all playing each other, and I’m not talking about in-conference.

In related questions, any theories as to the decline of small Thanksgiving/Christmas tournaments? We used to get a scattering every year, but nothing has yet turned up in the area. Is this going to be one of the legacies of COVID scheduling?



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PostPosted: 09/08/22 12:01 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Money is a big factor I think. It cost a lot more for teams to host then it would for them to go to a tournament (all of the tournaments I've been a part of big and small paid a portion if not all of travel, hotel and food, plus gifts and/or experiences). So instead of having to pay money for other teams to come they now get to go other places and make/save money in the process or some teams opt to just play individual games to allow for some "down time" for their players/staff enjoy the holidays.


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PostPosted: 09/08/22 4:16 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Stanford's schedule is fairly normal, maybe more home games than usual. We always play a bunch of regional teams, Gonzaga, then a couple of biggies. This year it's SoCaro and Tenn, but both at home. And also going to a Thanksgiving tourney in Hawaii, but fairly weak opponents. So overall maybe a weaker than usual lineup. I expect SoCaro to beat us and Tenn certainly could also.

Our team is iffy this year with a solid post rotation and a bunch of Freshmen vying for PG. Could be good, could be a catastrophe. We will definitely miss the solidity of the Hull sisters and Anna Wilson... As well as the transfer out who was the heir apparent to PG.


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PostPosted: 09/08/22 4:42 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Mercer's schedules are always like that. This year the Bears are headed to the Las Vegas Invitational to play Colorado State and Texas Tech, two schools we've never met, right after Thanksgiving. Otherwise every game is in Georgia or an adjacent state and nobody is coming here from far away.



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PostPosted: 09/08/22 10:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Marquette has no road games on their non-conference schedule. I've never seen anything like that. They play a tournament in the Bahamas and those neutral court games are the only games they don't play at the Al McGuire Center before conference play begins. Their non-conference schedule is pretty weak and I'm not a big fan of them basically staying at home either.

They will be in the Bahamas a long time according to their schedule page though - November through August Smile

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PostPosted: 09/08/22 11:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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Marquette has no road games on their non-conference schedule. I've never seen anything like that. They play a tournament in the Bahamas and those neutral court games are the only games they don't play at the Al McGuire Center before conference play begins. Their non-conference schedule is pretty weak and I'm not a big fan of them basically staying at home either.

They will be in the Bahamas a long time according to their schedule page though - November through August Smile

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St. John’s took the same approach, except they’re going to Vegas instead of the Bahamas. And for some reason opening day is a Monday at 1 PM. I am so glad not to be tied to that mess anymore.



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PostPosted: 09/09/22 5:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
Marquette Fan wrote:
Marquette has no road games on their non-conference schedule. I've never seen anything like that. They play a tournament in the Bahamas and those neutral court games are the only games they don't play at the Al McGuire Center before conference play begins. Their non-conference schedule is pretty weak and I'm not a big fan of them basically staying at home either.

They will be in the Bahamas a long time according to their schedule page though - November through August Smile

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St. John’s took the same approach, except they’re going to Vegas instead of the Bahamas. And for some reason opening day is a Monday at 1 PM. I am so glad not to be tied to that mess anymore.


They were supposed to go to the Bahamas in the 20-21 season and that was canceled of course. UCONN was in that tournament last year so MU couldn’t do it with their conference mate playing in it.

Marquette hasn’t announced game times yet but they regularly do 1-2 scream games as I call them during the day on a weekday hosting field trips.


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PostPosted: 09/09/22 8:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Kansas State is the farthest Iowa is traveling for a "true" road game this non-conference. Not terribly far away but still outside of B1G country.

Iowa always plays the three in-state rivals (Iowa State, Drake, UNI), which are great games every year. They're a nice way to have road games without really have to go on the road, since you'll get a good contingent of Iowa fans at all of those in-state arenas.

They've swapped out their usual Cancun tournament for the Phil Knight Legacy Tournament with Oregon State and then UConn/Duke. With the tournament being in Oregon, it feels like Oregon State is the de facto home team even if it's not in Corvallis. It's definitely a step up in competition from who Iowa would usually face at that time of year.

The B1G/ACC challenge will bring NC State to Iowa City this year. Every other year this series would put a true road game on the schedule, but not this year.

The four remaining opponents are Belmont, Dartmouth, Southern, and Evansville, all of whom Iowa is hosting.



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PostPosted: 09/09/22 9:58 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Queenie wrote:
Marquette Fan wrote:
Marquette has no road games on their non-conference schedule. I've never seen anything like that. They play a tournament in the Bahamas and those neutral court games are the only games they don't play at the Al McGuire Center before conference play begins. Their non-conference schedule is pretty weak and I'm not a big fan of them basically staying at home either.

They will be in the Bahamas a long time according to their schedule page though - November through August Smile

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St. John’s took the same approach, except they’re going to Vegas instead of the Bahamas. And for some reason opening day is a Monday at 1 PM. I am so glad not to be tied to that mess anymore.


Purdue also has no true road games. They play two tournaments - one in Vegas, one somewhere in the Caribbean - but only neutral court and home games.


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PostPosted: 09/09/22 11:12 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

JMU is now in the Sun Belt, so their conference schedule has them traveling a bit, as far as San Marcos, TX on one occasion. The non-conference schedule was trimmed a bit and they go no further than Hampton and Philadelphia. They do, however, host Maine at home for their opener (hi, you down easters!) and they also play UNC at home. Other OOC opponents include: Queens (NC), Longwood, Liberty, VCU, MD-Eastern Shore, Eastern Michigan, and the winner of St Joseph's-Wright State. Not an entirely shabby OOC schedule.



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PostPosted: 09/09/22 11:31 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

All of Michigan’s best non-conference games are on the road or neutral sites. As a season ticket holder, I’m meh about the home offerings.


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PostPosted: 09/09/22 12:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

UCONN's non conference schedule was a juggernaut before Paige tore her ACL, now it's just ridiculous.

Home
Northeastern
Texas
NC State
Princeton

Neutral
Phil Knight Legacy Classic
Duke
Iowa/Oregon State

Basketball Hall of Fame Women's Showcase
@Mohegan Sun(I know, not really neutral)
Florida State

Away
Notre Dame
Maryland
Tennessee
South Carolina


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PostPosted: 09/09/22 7:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I don't see unusual regionality in Tenn's OOC schedule. Most games are the second of a home-and-home pair, small schools that want to play in TBA, or a Caribbean tournament.

Home
UMass
Indiana
Eastern Ky.
Va Tech
Wright State
UCF
Wofford
UConn
ETA: Colorado
ETA: Chattanooga

Neutral (Battle 4 Atlantis)
Rutgers
2 games TBD (of Gonzaga, Marquette, SD State,
Texas, UCLA, Louisville)

Away
Ohio State
Stanford




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PostPosted: 09/11/22 9:03 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

These are my top 25 games for the first 2 weeks of the season:

November 7
Creighton @ South Dakota St
Missouri @ Missouri St

November 8
Tennessee @ Ohio St

November 10
Creighton @ South Dakota

November 11
Seton Hall @ Rutgers
SMU @ Oklahoma
South Carolina @ Maryland

November 13
Iowa @ Drake

November 14
Texas @ UConn
Indiana @ Tennessee
Mississippi St @ South Dakota St
Princeton @ Seton Hall

November 15
Florida @ Florida St
Oklahoma @ Utah

November 17
Oklahoma St @ Missouri St
Iowa @ Kansas St
Texas A&M @ Duke

November 19
Gonzaga @ Louisville

November 20
Villanova @ Temple
So. Florida @ TCU
Maryland @ Baylor
Miami (Fla) @ DePaul
North Carolina St @ UConn
South Carolina @ Stanford
North Carolina @ James Madison

There may be a few more games added and I may have missed a game or 2 but this is a pretty good start.




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PostPosted: 09/11/22 9:54 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Oregon Women's Basketball 2022-23 Nonconference Schedule

Oct. 28 (Sun.) – Carroll College (exhibition)
Nov. 7 (Mon.) – Northwestern
Nov. 12 (Sat.) – Seattle U
Nov. 14 (Mon.) – at Southern University
Nov. 21 (Mon.) – Southern Utah
Nov. 24 (Thur.) – vs. North Carolina (PK85^)
Nov. 27 (Sun.) – vs. TBD (PK85^)
Dec. 3 (Sat.) – Portland
Dec. 15 (Thur.) – Eastern Washington
Dec. 18 (Sun.) – College of Charleston
Dec. 20 (Tue.) – vs. Arkansas (San Diego Tournament#)
Dec. 21 (Wed.) – vs. USF or Ohio State (San Diego Tournament#)



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PostPosted: 09/12/22 1:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
I don't see unusual regionality in Tenn's OOC schedule. Most games are the second of a home-and-home pair, small schools that want to play in TBA, or a Caribbean tournament.



looks like a pretty tough schedule to me.


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PostPosted: 09/12/22 2:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

calbearman76 wrote:
These are my top 25 games for the first 2 weeks of the season:

November 7
Creighton @ South Dakota St
Missouri @ Missouri St

November 8
Tennessee @ Oklahoma St

November 10
Creighton @ South Dakota

November 11
Seton Hall @ Rutgers
SMU @ Oklahoma
South Carolina @ Maryland

November 13
Iowa @ Drake

November 14
Texas @ UConn
Indiana @ Tennessee
Mississippi St @ South Dakota St
Princeton @ Seton Hall

November 15
Florida @ Florida St
Oklahoma @ Utah

November 17
Oklahoma St @ Missouri St
Iowa @ Kansas St
Texas A&M @ Duke

November 19
Gonzaga @ Louisville

November 20
Villanova @ Temple
So. Florida @ TCU
Maryland @ Baylor
Miami (Fla) @ DePaul
North Carolina St @ UConn
South Carolina @ Stanford
North Carolina @ James Madison

There may be a few more games added and I may have missed a game or 2 but this is a pretty good start.


That should be Tenn @ OHIO St. on Nov. 8


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PostPosted: 09/12/22 2:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
FrozenLVFan wrote:
I don't see unusual regionality in Tenn's OOC schedule. Most games are the second of a home-and-home pair, small schools that want to play in TBA, or a Caribbean tournament.



looks like a pretty tough schedule to me.


Four cupcakes, Rutgers, and most of the others were Top 25 teams last season.


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PostPosted: 09/12/22 3:12 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
calbearman76 wrote:
These are my top 25 games for the first 2 weeks of the season:

November 7
Creighton @ South Dakota St
Missouri @ Missouri St

November 8
Tennessee @ Oklahoma St

November 10
Creighton @ South Dakota

November 11
Seton Hall @ Rutgers
SMU @ Oklahoma
South Carolina @ Maryland

November 13
Iowa @ Drake

November 14
Texas @ UConn
Indiana @ Tennessee
Mississippi St @ South Dakota St
Princeton @ Seton Hall

November 15
Florida @ Florida St
Oklahoma @ Utah

November 17
Oklahoma St @ Missouri St
Iowa @ Kansas St
Texas A&M @ Duke

November 19
Gonzaga @ Louisville

November 20
Villanova @ Temple
So. Florida @ TCU
Maryland @ Baylor
Miami (Fla) @ DePaul
North Carolina St @ UConn
South Carolina @ Stanford
North Carolina @ James Madison

There may be a few more games added and I may have missed a game or 2 but this is a pretty good start.


That should be Tenn @ OHIO St. on Nov. 8


Thanks for the correction.
Sometimes I can't read my own scribbles.


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PostPosted: 09/12/22 9:48 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Virginia announced its non-conference schedule - which is understandable - it is weak schedule due to the fact that Tina Thompson ruining it all last year with 5-22 record, easily the worst school record in the history.

Virginia will play:

George Washington
UMBC
@Loyola-Chicago
@American
@Campbell

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Minnesota
East Carolina

Big 10/ACC Challenge
@Penn State

UNCW
@William & Mary
Morgan State


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PostPosted: 09/13/22 7:48 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Second-year McNeese head coach Lynn Kennedy finished his first year at the helm of the Cowgirls program with a 13-15 overall record, a vast improvement on the 6-16 record under the previous coaching staff. The 13-15 record included a #3 seed in the Southland Conference tournament, as the Cowgirls had a winning 8-6 record in conference play.

Following last year's schedule which saw the young Cowgirls travel to Pac-12 schools Cal and Oregon (horrible results as both were blowout losses), this year's team will take a trek through the Midwest to face a couple of Big 10 schools and play in historic venues:

Illinois - November 16
Bradley - November 19
Ohio St. - November 20
Xavier - November 22


The Cowgirls will finish the non-conference schedule with trips to
SEC Ol' Miss and Big 12 Texas Tech

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PostPosted: 09/13/22 9:10 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

RHSibley wrote:

Need more cowbell!

Razz I'm curious how many folks know/remember that line's source. Laughing Laughing



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PostPosted: 09/13/22 1:05 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Howee wrote:
RHSibley wrote:

Need more cowbell!

Razz I'm curious how many folks know/remember that line's source. Laughing Laughing


I remember something on SNL about it, but I don't know if that was the source or just a parody of the real source, and I don't remember any of the details.


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PostPosted: 09/13/22 4:18 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

FrozenLVFan wrote:
Howee wrote:
RHSibley wrote:

Need more cowbell!

Razz I'm curious how many folks know/remember that line's source. Laughing Laughing


I remember something on SNL about it, but I don't know if that was the source or just a parody of the real source, and I don't remember any of the details.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsQLlk-T0s Cool



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