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PostPosted: 03/20/22 12:29 am    ::: #12 Florida Gulf Coast vs #4 Maryland - 3/20/22 Reply Reply with quote

NCAA Tournament - Second Round
College Park, MD - 3:00 PM ET

TV: ESPN (Dave O'Brien, Christy Winters-Scott)

Video stream:
https://www.espn.com/watch/player/_/id/3d04450b-60d7-4cf0-bee2-4cccf6d142a8 (tvpli)

Live stats:
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401414503

https://www.ncaa.com/game/5981690



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PostPosted: 03/20/22 2:27 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

23-23 end of first



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PostPosted: 03/20/22 2:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Flagrant on Collins of Maryland for contact to the head, FGCU turns it into a five-point possession.



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PostPosted: 03/20/22 2:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Diamond Miller looks to be having a good game and after switching to this one FGCU looks to be shooting the ball extremely well!



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PostPosted: 03/20/22 3:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

and you get a three and you get a three and you get a three



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PostPosted: 03/20/22 3:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Maryland plays dirty. Especially Owusu.



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PostPosted: 03/20/22 3:19 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I kinda wish the NCAAs had a consolation bracket.


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PostPosted: 03/20/22 3:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

When Diamond Miller is healthy, she is special and fun to watch.

Bell having a rough game here is just bad timing for FGCU



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PostPosted: 03/20/22 4:06 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Well, it was close for awhile.



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PostPosted: 03/20/22 4:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I've had such a good time watching the Terps this tournament, hope it continues for a few more games. Very Happy

Glad to hear some of the players are using Alyssa Thomas and the 2014 team as inspiration. Nobody gets mad and takes over a game quite like AT.


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PostPosted: 03/20/22 9:38 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I didn't get to see much of this game, but....Bell's FG% really sucks for air tonight. Shocked Is she on anybody's radar for the draft?

Angel Reese is always amazing to me. She needs to transfer to Oregon. Razz

(anyone else notice that FGCU has a player from out west named Schimmel - an possibility....?) Shocked



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PostPosted: 03/20/22 9:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

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I didn't get to see much of this game, but....Bell's FG% really sucks for air tonight. Shocked Is she on anybody's radar for the draft?


Everyone's radar. Ranging from Lottery to End of 1st Round. But definitely IMO getting taken by the 6th pick for sure.



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PostPosted: 03/21/22 4:13 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
Maryland plays dirty. Especially Owusu.


Ashley is physical, not dirty.


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PostPosted: 03/21/22 5:10 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

SocksTerp wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Maryland plays dirty. Especially Owusu.


Ashley is physical, not dirty.


And you’re a Terps fan, so of course Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: 03/22/22 9:02 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
SocksTerp wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Maryland plays dirty. Especially Owusu.


Ashley is physical, not dirty.


And you’re a Terps fan, so of course Rolling Eyes


But you're well known for disliking Brenda and her teams, so why do you think your opinion is impartial, and SocksTerp's isn't?


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PostPosted: 03/22/22 10:00 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

blue crabs & basketba wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
SocksTerp wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Maryland plays dirty. Especially Owusu.


Ashley is physical, not dirty.


And you’re a Terps fan, so of course Rolling Eyes


But you're well known for disliking Brenda and her teams, so why do you think your opinion is impartial, and SocksTerp's isn't?


I watch closely. I think Socks is likely to excuse the rugby-style play. I'm not.



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PostPosted: 03/22/22 10:17 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

summertime blues wrote:
blue crabs & basketba wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
SocksTerp wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Maryland plays dirty. Especially Owusu.


Ashley is physical, not dirty.


And you’re a Terps fan, so of course Rolling Eyes


But you're well known for disliking Brenda and her teams, so why do you think your opinion is impartial, and SocksTerp's isn't?


I watch closely. I think Socks is likely to excuse the rugby-style play. I'm not.


I don't see rugby-style play at all when I watch their games. I'm amazed all the time at what all the teams can do in terms of holding, pulling, pushing, etc. without calls of any kind, though. I don't think Maryland is any different, except because Ashley has a bigger body, she has more physical force when she drives to the rim. Again, not dirty, just a tough player using her body to cut through the defense. Other than complaints about Ashley's playing style, where else are the Terps dirty?


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PostPosted: 03/22/22 11:21 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

blue crabs & basketba wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
blue crabs & basketba wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
SocksTerp wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Maryland plays dirty. Especially Owusu.


Ashley is physical, not dirty.


And you’re a Terps fan, so of course Rolling Eyes


But you're well known for disliking Brenda and her teams, so why do you think your opinion is impartial, and SocksTerp's isn't?


I watch closely. I think Socks is likely to excuse the rugby-style play. I'm not.


I don't see rugby-style play at all when I watch their games. I'm amazed all the time at what all the teams can do in terms of holding, pulling, pushing, etc. without calls of any kind, though. I don't think Maryland is any different, except because Ashley has a bigger body, she has more physical force when she drives to the rim. Again, not dirty, just a tough player using her body to cut through the defense. Other than complaints about Ashley's playing style, where else are the Terps dirty?


Of course you don't. Collins is another one. I'm glad she left Tennessee. And I guess you don't call the kind of holding that involves actually grabbing another player by the arm, which I've seen Owusu do multiple times, and holding onto them by force to impede them, dirty. It should get called more often than it does. (Post edited because I inadvertently confused Mimi Collins with Jazmine Massengill, who offends for another team but also left Tennessee at the same time.)



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summertime blues wrote:
blue crabs & basketba wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
blue crabs & basketba wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
SocksTerp wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Maryland plays dirty. Especially Owusu.


Ashley is physical, not dirty.


And you’re a Terps fan, so of course Rolling Eyes


But you're well known for disliking Brenda and her teams, so why do you think your opinion is impartial, and SocksTerp's isn't?


I watch closely. I think Socks is likely to excuse the rugby-style play. I'm not.


I don't see rugby-style play at all when I watch their games. I'm amazed all the time at what all the teams can do in terms of holding, pulling, pushing, etc. without calls of any kind, though. I don't think Maryland is any different, except because Ashley has a bigger body, she has more physical force when she drives to the rim. Again, not dirty, just a tough player using her body to cut through the defense. Other than complaints about Ashley's playing style, where else are the Terps dirty?


Of course you don't. Massengill is another one. I'm glad she left Tennessee. And I guess you don't call the kind of holding that involves actually grabbing another player by the arm, which I've seen Owusu do multiple times, and holding onto them by force to impede them, dirty. It should get called more often than it does.


Ah, I see, we have a fundamental difference in what we think dirty is. To me, dirty is when someone plays with the intention to hurt other players. Ashley doesn't play that way. Also, as I suspected, 'Maryland plays dirty' just means "Ashley plays dirty," which I think is untrue either way.


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blue crabs & basketba wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
blue crabs & basketba wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
blue crabs & basketba wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
SocksTerp wrote:
summertime blues wrote:
Maryland plays dirty. Especially Owusu.


Ashley is physical, not dirty.


And you’re a Terps fan, so of course Rolling Eyes


But you're well known for disliking Brenda and her teams, so why do you think your opinion is impartial, and SocksTerp's isn't?


I watch closely. I think Socks is likely to excuse the rugby-style play. I'm not.


I don't see rugby-style play at all when I watch their games. I'm amazed all the time at what all the teams can do in terms of holding, pulling, pushing, etc. without calls of any kind, though. I don't think Maryland is any different, except because Ashley has a bigger body, she has more physical force when she drives to the rim. Again, not dirty, just a tough player using her body to cut through the defense. Other than complaints about Ashley's playing style, where else are the Terps dirty?


Of course you don't. Massengill is another one. I'm glad she left Tennessee. And I guess you don't call the kind of holding that involves actually grabbing another player by the arm, which I've seen Owusu do multiple times, and holding onto them by force to impede them, dirty. It should get called more often than it does.


Ah, I see, we have a fundamental difference in what we think dirty is. To me, dirty is when someone plays with the intention to hurt other players. Ashley doesn't play that way. Also, as I suspected, 'Maryland plays dirty' just means "Ashley plays dirty," which I think is untrue either way.


Can we agree that arms and bodies are okay but grabby hands are not?



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Grabby hands and subtle, or not so subtle, pushes when you think the refs aren't looking are a problem. I haven't seen enough of Owusu to make a diagnosis about her other than that I think she should be called a lot more for offensive fouls as she barrels into defenders. Nothing subtle about that.


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Grabby hands are a problem for all of women's basketball, I can agree on that.

I will refrain from further comment on Owusu because I know my beliefs on her play come somewhat from a biased position, and I don't want to bore anyone with my detailed analysis of her play. Wink


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BTW, without commenting on the particular player or team, I think that an "intent to injure" as an essential element of "dirty play" is far far too narrow. To me, dirty play is any intentional pushing, grabbing elbowing, slapping, hacking, tripping etc that the player knows full well is in violation of the rules but does it anyhow to gain an unfair advantage with the hope the refs won't see it or will swallow their whistles often enough to make it worthwhile over the course of a full game. That's dirty play.

To me, it's little different from a white collar criminal business person who cheats or violates the unfair trade or antitrust laws with the expectation that the illegal profits earned will exceed the fines paid when they actually and infrequently get caught and prosecuted.


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Howee wrote:
[snip]...(anyone else notice that FGCU has a player from out west named Schimmel - an possibility....?) Shocked


https://fgcuathletics.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/milan-schimmel/8736

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Personal: Born Aug. 8, 1999 in Mission, Ore. ... Daughter of Cecilee Moses and Rick Schimmel … Has five brothers - Shae, Job, Mick, Saint and Sun...Has two sisters - Shoni and Jude.


Yep!

By the way, I remember Shoni was arrested for domestic violence last June (2021), but I have no idea if there was a trial yet.



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Thank you for that tidbit, steven....interesting. FGCU is only her fourth school, AND....she's got 2 years of eligibility left. Shocked

And yeah....WATN?? Shoni or Jude? I take it that neither one is doing any playing these days.



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