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PostPosted: 03/18/22 12:58 am    ::: #16 Howard vs #1 South Carolina - 3/18/22 Reply Reply with quote
NCAA Tournament - First Round
Columbia, SC - 2:00 PM ET
TV: ESPN (Courtney Lyle, Carolyn Peck)

Video stream:
https://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=d84296dd-cf03-4fb6-8b29-5a9341c138b2 (tvpli)

Audio:
https://gamecocksonline.com/showcase?Live=818

Live stats:
https://www.ncaa.com/game/5981649



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PostPosted: 03/18/22 1:22 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
14-0 SC out of gate approaching end of first

Nice showcase for ESPN.



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PostPosted: 03/18/22 1:26 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
wahoo. Howard scores!

Does anyone actually watch this? Why put this one on ESPN?
I'm over on the 7-10's which are great interesting games as opposed to this.
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PostPosted: 03/18/22 1:55 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Here's hoping does better against the Gamecock scrubs in the second half



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PostPosted: 03/18/22 1:57 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
44-4 at halftime.

Howard managed to score a whopping 2 points in each QTR.



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PostPosted: 03/18/22 1:59 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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44-4 at halftime.

Howard managed to score a whopping 2 points in each QTR.


Very consistent



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PostPosted: 03/18/22 2:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
SCar shooting 36% overall and 9% from 3, but leading 44-4.
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PostPosted: 03/18/22 2:11 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Howard gets the first bucket of the second half. Start of an All Time comeback?



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PostPosted: 03/18/22 6:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Just looking at the boxscore, I see she actually played some bodies I've never heard of before.

It's really embarrassing for the women's tournament. You wouldn't see a game like this on the men's side.
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PostPosted: 03/18/22 7:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
myrtle wrote:
It's really embarrassing for the women's tournament. You wouldn't see a game like this on the men's side.


+1. And yet, they expand the field anyway and choose not to feature all the First Four matchups exclusively as 16 seeds. They don’t have to do take the lead from the men’s side on everything. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 03/18/22 10:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
myrtle wrote:
Just looking at the boxscore, I see she actually played some bodies I've never heard of before.

It's really embarrassing for the women's tournament. You wouldn't see a game like this on the men's side.


But this has been a commonality for the WBB side, for quite some time. Not exclusive to just the overall #1 Seed of each tournament, but using Connecticut as an example - because they've probably been the overall #1 more often in recent years than any other program - their 1st-Round games have been just as embarrassing as this one:

20-21: High Point - 102-59
19-20: No NCAAT
18-19: Towson - 110-61
17-18: Saint Francis - 140-52
16-17: Albany - 116-55
15-16: Robert Morris - 101-49
14-15: St. Francis - 89-33
13-14: Prairie View A&M - 87-44
12-13: Idaho - 105-37
11-12: Prairie View A&M - 83-47


That's an average score of 103.67 - 48.56, or a MOV of 55.11. USC's MOV today was 58, so not all that far off. I'm sure other #1 Seeded teams in the WBB's NCAAT can put up similar 1st-Round margins. And while CT is the more offensive-minded program traditionally under Auriemma, so they have all those 100+ point games, South Carolina is the more defensive minded under Staley, so you get the low-scoring output from Howard......
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PostPosted: 03/18/22 11:17 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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myrtle wrote:
Just looking at the boxscore, I see she actually played some bodies I've never heard of before.

It's really embarrassing for the women's tournament. You wouldn't see a game like this on the men's side.


But this has been a commonality for the WBB side, for quite some time. Not exclusive to just the overall #1 Seed of each tournament, but using Connecticut as an example - because they've probably been the overall #1 more often in recent years than any other program - their 1st-Round games have been just as embarrassing as this one:

That's an average score of 103.67 - 48.56, or a MOV of 55.11. USC's MOV today was 58, so not all that far off. I'm sure other #1 Seeded teams in the WBB's NCAAT can put up similar 1st-Round margins. And while CT is the more offensive-minded program traditionally under Auriemma, so they have all those 100+ point games, South Carolina is the more defensive minded under Staley, so you get the low-scoring output from Howard......

I'm not sure what point/argument you're trying to make. It's been done before so we shouldn't think this is noteworthy? It's been done before so it isn't a problem? Why are you pointing it out/complaining about it now when UConn is the real problem/point it out when UConn does it, too? Something else?

Getting blown out is one thing. Scoring 4 points in 20 minutes of basketball is a different level (to me). Scoring 4 points in 20 minutes of basketball on national television while other games are going on is whole other (and a different problem entirely @ESPN).

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17-18: Saint Francis - 140-52

Shocked Yikes. Do not remember this. It also skews the averages above a little bit.
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PostPosted: 03/19/22 8:07 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Oh, that game against the Red Flash was infamous! St. Francis PA under Joe Haigh ran a high-paced, what even is defense, style and they were going to run it until they died. People screamed about it at the time. Fun to watch when they were going against their peers, but they were primed to be exploited by a good UConn team ("good UConn team" being used here in the context of "good by the standards set by UConn", not as an understatement re: UConn)



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PostPosted: 03/19/22 9:18 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
These games are so cruel. Maybe they should let the 15 and 16 seeds play each other for play-ins too.



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PostPosted: 03/19/22 10:49 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
This is not in the best interest of WBB. I wonder how many teams the WBCA and different women's bb coaches would choose to have in the tourney if it were up to them.
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PostPosted: 03/19/22 11:03 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
PG4ever wrote:
This is not in the best interest of WBB. I wonder how many teams the WBCA and different women's bb coaches would choose to have in the tourney if it were up to them.


My guess is it wouldn't be a smaller number



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PostPosted: 03/19/22 7:53 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
pilight wrote:
PG4ever wrote:
This is not in the best interest of WBB. I wonder how many teams the WBCA and different women's bb coaches would choose to have in the tourney if it were up to them.


My guess is it wouldn't be a smaller number


Maybe they'd do a different configuration. That was my point. What SC did to Howard and Stanford did to Montana State is cruel and just not right.



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