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| #7 is the lowest UConn has been in the AP poll since 2007 |
And #7 is the highest Tenn has been in, not that long, but since early 2018.
Ships passing in the night?
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| Posted: 12/14/21 1:21 am ::: |
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| Justice for Oklahoma! |
Is that a demand or simple statement? Cuz I was POSITIVE they'd be in by now. |
I was thinking that they just got a new commitment.....
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| Posted: 12/20/21 1:08 pm ::: |
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| The last time UConn was ranked outside the top 10 was March of 2005
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| Posted: 12/20/21 3:55 pm ::: |
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| The last time UConn was ranked outside the top 10 was March of 2005 |
That is just crazy. A true testament to how truly great that program truly is and has been. Remarkable.
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| Posted: 12/20/21 6:51 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
| The last time UConn was ranked outside the top 10 was March of 2005 |
That is just crazy. A true testament to how truly great that program truly is and has been. Remarkable. |
It's a very impressive run. 313 polls. The Hussies were #1 in almost half of them. How many polls at each spot...
1: 156
2: 60
3 :38
4 :18
5 :12
6 :6
7: 9
8: 10
9: 3
10: 1
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| Posted: 12/20/21 7:58 pm ::: |
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https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-womens-college-basketball-poll?week=7
South Carolina still unanimous
Stanford up to #2
Michigan up to #9
Connecticut down to #11
Same 25 teams as last week |
Yesterday Michigan defeated its first top-5 opponent. Today Michigan achieved its first entry in history into the top 10.
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| Posted: 12/21/21 12:39 pm ::: |
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| pilight wrote: |
| The last time UConn was ranked outside the top 10 was March of 2005 |
When was the last time they were ranked below Tennessee? :shock: |
More importantly, how did Tennessee lose to the new #2 worse then we lost to the new #3, but didn't move....and we fell 4 spaces? |
That's an argument that UConn has fallen too far. The contrary argument is that UConn, at 6-3, has the fewest wins and most losses of any team in the top 25 (tied in a few cases), and that UConn has no real quality wins outside of 18 USF and 20 ND. I can see how, from a poll dynamics perspective, the latter argument could outweigh the former in most voters subjective calculus.
Personally, I think UConn's current lineup, crippled as it may be, is in reality one of the 10 best programs, and that it could be top 5 if it can get at least Fudd and either Muhl or Griffin back. |
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| Posted: 12/21/21 12:54 pm ::: |
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That's an argument that UConn has fallen too far. The contrary argument is that UConn, at 6-3, has the fewest wins and most losses of any team in the top 25 (tied in a few cases), and that UConn has no real quality wins outside of 18 USF and 20 ND. I can see how, from a poll dynamics perspective, the latter argument could outweigh the former in most voters subjective calculus.
Personally, I think UConn's current lineup, crippled as it may be, is in reality one of the 10 best programs, and that it could be top 5 if it can get at least Fudd and either Muhl or Griffin back. |
The only problem with that argument is that there are other teams in the top ten who are or have been playing without some of their best players, and who would undoubtedly also be better if/when they get those players back.
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| Posted: 12/21/21 4:11 pm ::: |
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That's an argument that UConn has fallen too far. The contrary argument is that UConn, at 6-3, has the fewest wins and most losses of any team in the top 25 (tied in a few cases), and that UConn has no real quality wins outside of 18 USF and 20 ND. I can see how, from a poll dynamics perspective, the latter argument could outweigh the former in most voters subjective calculus.
Personally, I think UConn's current lineup, crippled as it may be, is in reality one of the 10 best programs, and that it could be top 5 if it can get at least Fudd and either Muhl or Griffin back. |
The only problem with that argument is that there are other teams in the top ten who are or have been playing without some of their best players, and who would undoubtedly also be better if/when they get those players back. |
MOST certainly true! [See: Oregon. They might at least be in the top 25  ]
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| Posted: 12/21/21 6:47 pm ::: |
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That's an argument that UConn has fallen too far. The contrary argument is that UConn, at 6-3, has the fewest wins and most losses of any team in the top 25 (tied in a few cases), and that UConn has no real quality wins outside of 18 USF and 20 ND. I can see how, from a poll dynamics perspective, the latter argument could outweigh the former in most voters subjective calculus.
Personally, I think UConn's current lineup, crippled as it may be, is in reality one of the 10 best programs, and that it could be top 5 if it can get at least Fudd and either Muhl or Griffin back. |
The only problem with that argument is that there are other teams in the top ten who are or have been playing without some of their best players, and who would undoubtedly also be better if/when they get those players back. |
Okay, since it's my argument, I will cure the perceived problem by clarifying the argument to be: Even if all teams in the top 10 other than UConn get all their injured players back, UConn could be top 5 if it gets back Fudd and either Muhl or Griffin. (Is this an argument or an opinion?) |
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| Posted: 12/21/21 8:31 pm ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
That's an argument that UConn has fallen too far. The contrary argument is that UConn, at 6-3, has the fewest wins and most losses of any team in the top 25 (tied in a few cases), and that UConn has no real quality wins outside of 18 USF and 20 ND. I can see how, from a poll dynamics perspective, the latter argument could outweigh the former in most voters subjective calculus.
Personally, I think UConn's current lineup, crippled as it may be, is in reality one of the 10 best programs, and that it could be top 5 if it can get at least Fudd and either Muhl or Griffin back. |
The only problem with that argument is that there are other teams in the top ten who are or have been playing without some of their best players, and who would undoubtedly also be better if/when they get those players back. |
Okay, since it's my argument, I will cure the perceived problem by clarifying the argument to be: Even if all teams in the top 10 other than UConn get all their injured players back, UConn could be top 5 if it gets back Fudd and either Muhl or Griffin. (Is this an argument or an opinion?) |
It's an opinion, but one I agree with. Indeed, they could be top 5 even without any additional players. But either way, it's not a certainty.
Schedules start to become a factor also. UConn will have fewer opportunities from now on than other teams to impress, but other teams are more likely to add losses to their records. How will that sort out?
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| Posted: 12/21/21 10:56 pm ::: |
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I doubt many voters would stipulate to Mohegan being a neutral court.
FWIW, the coaches poll had similar results. They have Tennessee at #10 and UConn at #11. Last week they had UConn at #6 and Tennessee at #9.
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| Posted: 12/22/21 1:15 am ::: |
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| Never seen so many UConn fans (here, and elsewhere) up in arms about the injustices of the AP Poll.
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| Posted: 12/22/21 8:36 am ::: |
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That is just crazy. A true testament to how truly great that program truly is and has been. Remarkable. |
For true??
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| Posted: 12/27/21 11:04 pm ::: |
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| I doubt many voters would stipulate to Mohegan being a neutral court. ... |
So any arena that holds a conference tournament should be listed as a home court for all teams in all conferences? Othe than the BET UConn has played one game a year, The Hall of Fame Classic that used to be played in Springfield.
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| Posted: 12/28/21 8:48 am ::: |
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| I doubt many voters would stipulate to Mohegan being a neutral court. ... |
So any arena that holds a conference tournament should be listed as a home court for all teams in all conferences? Othe than the BET UConn has played one game a year, The Hall of Fame Classic that used to be played in Springfield. |
Any arena less than 30 miles from campus can't reasonably considered "neutral"
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| Posted: 12/28/21 7:17 pm ::: |
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| I doubt many voters would stipulate to Mohegan being a neutral court. ... |
So any arena that holds a conference tournament should be listed as a home court for all teams in all conferences? Othe than the BET UConn has played one game a year, The Hall of Fame Classic that used to be played in Springfield. |
Any arena less than 30 miles from campus can't reasonably considered "neutral" |
Compromise position: The arena is neutral but the attending fans aren't. |
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