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Who will be the next head coach of the Seattle Storm? Choices abound
https://summitthoops.com/2017/08/11/next-head-coach-seattle-storm/
The puppet master Megdal runs through some possible candidates for the new head coach for SEA next year.
1. The interim
*Gary Kloppenburg
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| Do not underestimate Kloppenburg’s ability to grab the permanent gig, with his significant coaching experience and the likelihood that improved defensive buy in from the Storm players could land Seattle in the playoffs. Opinion around the league is split, with some expressing a belief that a playoff appearance would be enough to get him a full-time shot, others believing the Storm will open things up regardless of how he does. |
Being in his second year of WNBA coverage, I'm not sure how Megdal would know how competent Kloppenburg would be for this job. He must have read things. I'm in the camp that they should open up things for next year.
2. Assistant coaches
*Katie Smith NYL
*Nicki Cullen CON (stealing my best candidate)
*Bridget Pettis DAL
*Bobbie Kelsey LAS (the get your butt into the gym coach is moving up fast! Ridiculous choice)
*Tonya Edwards LAS (he's thinking all assistants running through LAS are golden)
3. College coaches
*Charlotte Smith Elon
*Aaron Roussell Bucknell
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| But let’s be clear: the relative power, longevity and financial reward of a college job makes luring someone away from a power five conference gig to the WNBA prohibitively difficult. |
4. Former players
*Kara Lawson
*Lindsey Harding (claims she's eager to get into coaching, but doesn't she want to be a reference now that the acting thing doesn't seem to be panning out)
*Tameka Johnson (last played in SEA)
He missed the most obvious choice, Tanisha Wright, who has obvious coaching acumen and is very familiar with SEA. But usually former players need to start out as assistants before they take on the head coaching reins.
5. WNBA coaching retreads
*Anne Donovan (brought SEA a title before)
*Dan Hughes
If you want to do a retread, how about doing it right and bringing Lin Dunn back to SEA. After retiring she decided retiring wasn't really for her and went on to assistant coach for Kentucky. Just a thought ... no need to throw things.
6. Coach on the floor
*Sue Bird
Now stealing Queenie's idea? I dunno... maybe Bird has had a lot of input and that's been part of the problem.
7. Becky Hammon
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| Okay, here’s the deal: Becky Hammon is an option for every coaching job in the world. Women. Men. Doesn’t matter. And she probably shouldn’t take any of them, not when the San Antonio Spurs sure look like they are grooming her to become the first woman to coach an NBA team. |
There's that plus the fact if she wanted a WNBA job, the SAN job would be open for her.
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| Posted: 08/11/17 4:40 pm ::: |
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Worth making a phone call to Adia Barnes? The team is even in Arizona as we speak...
Long history with the team, close with Sue, Seattle connections...
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Worth making a phone call to Adia Barnes? The team is even in Arizona as we speak...
Long history with the team, close with Sue, Seattle connections... |
And her dream job at her college alma mater. She's not going to leave a college job for a WNBA one.
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| Posted: 08/12/17 1:23 pm ::: |
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Worth making a phone call to Adia Barnes? The team is even in Arizona as we speak...
Long history with the team, close with Sue, Seattle connections... |
And her dream job at her college alma mater. She's not going to leave a college job for a WNBA one. |
How is the fan road trip so far? We originally planned to go but then changed our minds at the last minute... actually glad we didn't go with how the season has gone!
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| Posted: 08/12/17 1:35 pm ::: |
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| Carol Ross hasn't been doing anything, AFAIK.
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| Carol Ross hasn't been doing anything, AFAIK. |
She got fired for a reason. My theory is she couldn't handle the strong personalities of the Sparks players to make them work as a cohesive unit. Maybe SEA won't need a demanding coach and Ross would suffice. But they've got that now in Klop.
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| Posted: 08/12/17 2:40 pm ::: |
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| Carol Ross is yet another WNBA COY that got fired as soon as things didn't go well - about a year and half later.
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| Posted: 08/12/17 5:16 pm ::: |
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Worth making a phone call to Adia Barnes? The team is even in Arizona as we speak...
Long history with the team, close with Sue, Seattle connections... |
And her dream job at her college alma mater. She's not going to leave a college job for a WNBA one. |
How is the fan road trip so far? We originally planned to go but then changed our minds at the last minute... actually glad we didn't go with how the season has gone! |
I wasn't able to go to to the meet and greet Friday but I was told it was nice and the players seemed pretty happy to see the fans. Nothing much else except for early entry.
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| Posted: 08/13/17 5:34 pm ::: |
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New coach of WNBA's Seattle Storm sees playoffs on horizon
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/wnba/2017/08/12/new-coach-of-wnbas-seattle-storm-sees-playoffs-on-horizon/104530016/
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| "We really are trying to regroup and just trying to get better in some areas that hurt us in a couple games," Kloppenburg told The Associated Press by phone Saturday. "We need to be a better rebounding team, cut down on turnovers. Things we can control." |
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The Storm promoted Kloppenburg on Thursday when they fired Jenny Boucek.
"It's not how you want to get a head job," Kloppenburg said. |
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| "Any time a team is viewed as underachieving and not playing their best in the world of sports we understand it's a business," guard Sue Bird said. "That's why players are traded and that's why there are coaching changes. If asked about the shock, no because I've been around long enough to know about the business." |
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| "I think the biggest thing I learned was communication with the players," he said of his time as an assistant. "That's the most important thing. Being honest. Being able to communicate with all your players. Have a finger on the pulse of what's happening." |
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| Seattle went 36-58 under Boucek since she appointed coach on Jan. 20, 2015. |
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| Kloppenburg doesn't see the final eight games as a job audition. |
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| Posted: 08/17/17 6:46 pm ::: |
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Interim Storm coach Gary Kloppenburg is a quiet leader
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| Unfortunately for seattle,it's deja vu all over again.Beat a bunch of teams down the stretch that are missing players,and sneak into the playoffs with a sub .500 record.Lets just hope the storm don't trade away their 1st rd pick for K.Vaughn,N.Achonwa,or Larkins.A top 4 pick would have put the storm in excellent position to get the player of their choice.Now they'll have to hope that Canada/Russell are still on the board at #6......Mitchell/Billings would not be good fits imo.
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| Unfortunately for seattle,it's deja vu all over again.Beat a bunch of teams down the stretch that are missing players,and sneak into the playoffs with a sub .500 record.Lets just hope the storm don't trade away their 1st rd pick for K.Vaughn,N.Achonwa,or Larkins.A top 4 pick would have put the storm in excellent position to get the player of their choice.Now they'll have to hope that Canada/Russell are still on the board at #6......Mitchell/Billings would not be good fits imo. |
But this is what the fans want and truth be told the players too. It looks like it would end up being the #5 pick if it's not lottery. Even more than the pick, I think the Storm need to look at their existing starters and trade at least one of the undersized ones. Hopefully, they learned something with bringing in Swords.
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| Unfortunately for seattle,it's deja vu all over again.Beat a bunch of teams down the stretch that are missing players,and sneak into the playoffs with a sub .500 record.Lets just hope the storm don't trade away their 1st rd pick for K.Vaughn,N.Achonwa,or Larkins.A top 4 pick would have put the storm in excellent position to get the player of their choice.Now they'll have to hope that Canada/Russell are still on the board at #6......Mitchell/Billings would not be good fits imo. |
But this is what the fans want and truth be told the players too. It looks like it would end up being the #5 pick if it's not lottery. Even more than the pick, I think the Storm need to look at their existing starters and trade at least one of the undersized ones. Hopefully, they learned something with bringing in Swords. |
I agree...infact,I believe both Langhorne/clark should be removed from the starting lineup.Lanhorne would be perfect coming of the bench.But using her in a trade could be the better value play.
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| Posted: 08/20/17 5:37 am ::: |
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| Unfortunately for seattle,it's deja vu all over again.Beat a bunch of teams down the stretch that are missing players,and sneak into the playoffs with a sub .500 record.Lets just hope the storm don't trade away their 1st rd pick for K.Vaughn,N.Achonwa,or Larkins.A top 4 pick would have put the storm in excellent position to get the player of their choice.Now they'll have to hope that Canada/Russell are still on the board at #6......Mitchell/Billings would not be good fits imo. |
Which other teams then the Lynx are missing players? We won against the Mercury and Griner played and scored 17 pts or something. We played against the Lynx and we missed Bird ourselves. Everybody thought we were going to lose that game.. We won against the Stars and they missed Jefferson but this was the game that we should have won even if she played..
Out of the remaining 5 games the only team that is missing players is the Mystics and everyone else played against them aswell while they were missing either Hill or EDD or both..
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| Unfortunately for seattle,it's deja vu all over again.Beat a bunch of teams down the stretch that are missing players,and sneak into the playoffs with a sub .500 record.Lets just hope the storm don't trade away their 1st rd pick for K.Vaughn,N.Achonwa,or Larkins.A top 4 pick would have put the storm in excellent position to get the player of their choice.Now they'll have to hope that Canada/Russell are still on the board at #6......Mitchell/Billings would not be good fits imo. |
Which other teams then the Lynx are missing players? We won against the Mercury and Griner played and scored 17 pts or something. We played against the Lynx and we missed Bird ourselves. Everybody thought we were going to lose that game.. We won against the Stars and they missed Jefferson but this was the game that we should have won even if she played..
Out of the remaining 5 games the only team that is missing players is the Mystics and everyone else played against them aswell while they were missing either Hill or EDD or both.. |
Griner played limited minutes,plus the mercury are without Bonner.Yeah,I know,Bonner's been out since the start of the season.But she'll be back in 2018.
San Antonio was missing Jefferson and Desouza.....And seattle beating the stars is a foregone conclusion based on what ?......san antonio just beat seattle two weeks ago,and had a 11 point lead with 7 minutes to go in fridays game.
Seattle has 5 more games left.2 against a chicago team that traded away their starting SF and Backup center,1 against a dream team that is playing without McCoughtry,1 against a washington team that will be playing without Hill and Cloud,and 1 against a Bonnerless mercury team.Seattle has been relatively healthy all season long,but are still a sub .500 basketball team.That doesn't bode well for next season.
Multiple teams,will make multiple additions next season:
Dallas-Cambage & Draft pick
Phoenix-Bonner & Draft pick
Chicago-Faulkner,Coates,and 2 Draft picks
San Antonio-Lottery pick,and maybe a starter/rotation player for Jefferson/Plum
The worst thing seattle can do this offseason is stand pat by bringing back the same starting lineup.
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| Unfortunately for seattle,it's deja vu all over again.Beat a bunch of teams down the stretch that are missing players,and sneak into the playoffs with a sub .500 record.Lets just hope the storm don't trade away their 1st rd pick for K.Vaughn,N.Achonwa,or Larkins.A top 4 pick would have put the storm in excellent position to get the player of their choice.Now they'll have to hope that Canada/Russell are still on the board at #6......Mitchell/Billings would not be good fits imo. |
Which other teams then the Lynx are missing players? We won against the Mercury and Griner played and scored 17 pts or something. We played against the Lynx and we missed Bird ourselves. Everybody thought we were going to lose that game.. We won against the Stars and they missed Jefferson but this was the game that we should have won even if she played..
Out of the remaining 5 games the only team that is missing players is the Mystics and everyone else played against them aswell while they were missing either Hill or EDD or both.. |
Griner played limited minutes,plus the mercury are without Bonner.Yeah,I know,Bonner's been out since the start of the season.But she'll be back in 2018.
San Antonio was missing Jefferson and Desouza.....And seattle beating the stars is a foregone conclusion based on what ?......san antonio just beat seattle two weeks ago,and had a 11 point lead with 7 minutes to go in fridays game.
Seattle has 5 more games left.2 against a chicago team that traded away their starting SF and Backup center,1 against a dream team that is playing without McCoughtry,1 against a washington team that will be playing without Hill and Cloud,and 1 against a Bonnerless mercury team.Seattle has been relatively healthy all season long,but are still a sub .500 basketball team.That doesn't bode well for next season.
Multiple teams,will make multiple additions next season:
Dallas-Cambage & Draft pick
Phoenix-Bonner & Draft pick
Chicago-Faulkner,Coates,and 2 Draft picks
San Antonio-Lottery pick,and maybe a starter/rotation player for Jefferson/Plum
The worst thing seattle can do this offseason is stand pat by bringing back the same starting lineup. |
Bonner is out for the whole season so EVERY TEAM played against the Mercury without Bonner 
The stars playing without DeSouza is an advantage for them so counting that as them missing her is a joke tbh. I counted the Stars out of all the remaining games from the Storm as a win because they have the least amount of talent out of our remaining games and the Storm SHOULD win from them instead of winning against the Lynx, Mercury etc.
The Sky are playing better without their starting SF and their backup center in Boyette so counting that as missing players is BS IMO as they are a more dangerous team now IMO
So like i said the only team that is missing relevant players is the Mystics.
IMO the remaining schedule is not that easy for the Storm.
But i have to agree with you that the Storm need to make some big changes. I would like to see Langhorne coming off the bench and us playing with a solid true center next to Stewart or trading Langhorne now that she still has some good value.
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| Posted: 08/20/17 8:21 am ::: |
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| Unfortunately for seattle,it's deja vu all over again.Beat a bunch of teams down the stretch that are missing players,and sneak into the playoffs with a sub .500 record.Lets just hope the storm don't trade away their 1st rd pick for K.Vaughn,N.Achonwa,or Larkins.A top 4 pick would have put the storm in excellent position to get the player of their choice.Now they'll have to hope that Canada/Russell are still on the board at #6......Mitchell/Billings would not be good fits imo. |
But this is what the fans want and truth be told the players too. It looks like it would end up being the #5 pick if it's not lottery. Even more than the pick, I think the Storm need to look at their existing starters and trade at least one of the undersized ones. Hopefully, they learned something with bringing in Swords. |
We've all been suggesting they trade Langhorne for years, though. I'm not sure there's much value left, and presumably that's why the move hasn't been made in the past - lack of a decent available return. And Clark, while a useful role player, isn't getting you much back either. Changing these starters is a good idea in theory, but you need someone better to replace them with. Swords would've been an option - and still is, I guess - but they made a mess of that.
On the bright side, just making the playoffs or just missing them probably doesn't make much difference to the draft pick. Barring significant luck it's just 4th or 5th. You just cut out that little possibility. And Seattle have certainly had plenty of lottery luck over the years. |
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A rebounder, like the one Seattle let go, would be helpful as well. This team has a lot of firepower, but they get few second-chance opportunities and are turnover-prone. A suitable backup for Bird should be a priority.
Defensively, as much as adding size, Loyd needs to take some step forward. Right now, she is half of arguably the worst defensive backcourt in the league.
These are issues Seattle should be able to address without undergoing a massive shift.
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I agree...infact,I believe both Langhorne/clark should be removed from the starting lineup.Lanhorne would be perfect coming of the bench.But using her in a trade could be the better value play. |
There's a lot of teams that would like to add Langhorne.
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I don't really think they need a backup for Bird (although to some extent that's a matter of semantics). If they can find one, what they need is a successor. The stream of players over the years that've been able to survive for 10mpg to back her up are endlessly replaceable and not worth much. They need the player who can actually start in this league when she leaves (or play decent minutes alongside her if they happen to find the player before Bird retires).
That's another problem with sorting out the Clark/Langhorne spots - they have another priority to deal with as well. |
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I agree...infact,I believe both Langhorne/clark should be removed from the starting lineup.Lanhorne would be perfect coming of the bench.But using her in a trade could be the better value play. |
There's a lot of teams that would like to add Langhorne. |
Phoenix would be a good fit for Lanhorne.But after giving up Harrison and Williams I highly doubt the mercury would be willing to trade the 2018 1st rd pick for Langhorne.
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Langhorne as a replacement for Pierson and trade for #12 might not be too out of the question. Langhorne might not be as tough as Reeve likes, but she's got a good mid-range game that Reeve should like. I mean, she recently killed the Lynx with a 7-8 performance.
I'm not buying that SEA views Langhorne as a big problem.
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| I have a hypothetical question for all you Seattle fans. If the Storm has the opportunity to draft either DeShields, Russell, or Canada, which player should they draft? |
I'd rate DeShields highest out of that bunch.
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