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| It’s looking like Westchester but not confirmed.
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| It’s looking like Westchester but not confirmed. |
For all games? Why not do the 6 or so games at MSG? THIS SUCKS!!!
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| Posted: 02/06/18 5:09 pm ::: |
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| I'm not taking anything as fact that comes from anonymous, unconfirmed sources. But if indeed the Liberty will be playing the 2018 season at the Westchester County Center, I'd be grateful if someone could answer these questions. Is that arena within walking distance of the Metro North train station? If so, about how long a walk would it be? Many thanks.
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| Posted: 02/06/18 5:13 pm ::: |
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| I'm not taking anything as fact that comes from anonymous, unconfirmed sources. But if indeed the Liberty will be playing the 2018 season at the Westchester County Center, I'd be grateful if someone could answer these questions. Is that arena within walking distance of the Metro North train station? If so, about how long a walk would it be? Many thanks. |
See if this helps.
http://www.countycenter.biz/about/directions.html
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| Posted: 02/06/18 5:43 pm ::: |
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| I'm not taking anything as fact that comes from anonymous, unconfirmed sources. But if indeed the Liberty will be playing the 2018 season at the Westchester County Center, I'd be grateful if someone could answer these questions. Is that arena within walking distance of the Metro North train station? If so, about how long a walk would it be? Many thanks. |
See if this helps.
http://www.countycenter.biz/about/directions.html |
Thanks so much for posting this. It's very helpful.
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| Honestly, it’s not surprising to me at all. I figured MSG, Barclays or WCC were the only 3 options. If true (no reason I can think of that it wouldn’t be) then I’m not holding out much hope that the long-term future is stable. That’s the part that worries me way more than 2018.
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| Posted: 02/06/18 6:59 pm ::: |
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| Honestly, it’s not surprising to me at all. I figured MSG, Barclays or WCC were the only 3 options. If true (no reason I can think of that it wouldn’t be) then I’m not holding out much hope that the long-term future is stable. That’s the part that worries me way more than 2018. |
I agree. I believe the long-term future can be better only if there is a new owner willing to shell out significant $$$ over at least a few years to rent dates for full seasons at the Garden or the Barclay Center and hope to build better attendance at one of those venues.
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| Honestly, it’s not surprising to me at all. I figured MSG, Barclays or WCC were the only 3 options. If true (no reason I can think of that it wouldn’t be) then I’m not holding out much hope that the long-term future is stable. That’s the part that worries me way more than 2018. |
My hope is two things 1.) We get a select few games at MSG & 2.) The new owner(s) has very deep pockets.
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| Posted: 02/06/18 7:07 pm ::: |
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| Honestly, it’s not surprising to me at all. I figured MSG, Barclays or WCC were the only 3 options. If true (no reason I can think of that it wouldn’t be) then I’m not holding out much hope that the long-term future is stable. That’s the part that worries me way more than 2018. |
My hope is two things 1.) We get a select few games at MSG & 2.) The new owner(s) has very deep pockets. |
I predict #1 is true and #2 is partly true
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| Posted: 02/06/18 7:12 pm ::: |
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| Honestly, it’s not surprising to me at all. I figured MSG, Barclays or WCC were the only 3 options. If true (no reason I can think of that it wouldn’t be) then I’m not holding out much hope that the long-term future is stable. That’s the part that worries me way more than 2018. |
I agree. I believe the long-term future can be better only if there is a new owner willing to shell out significant $$$ over at least a few years to rent dates for full seasons at the Garden or the Barclay Center and hope to build better attendance at one of those venues. |
I agree. And I believe it can be done. I wish I had the money.
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| Posted: 02/06/18 7:14 pm ::: |
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| Honestly, it’s not surprising to me at all. I figured MSG, Barclays or WCC were the only 3 options. If true (no reason I can think of that it wouldn’t be) then I’m not holding out much hope that the long-term future is stable. That’s the part that worries me way more than 2018. |
My hope is two things 1.) We get a select few games at MSG & 2.) The new owner(s) has very deep pockets. |
Hope so. And I’ll add that a playoff run would be nice. Playoff runs have drawn additional attendance in the past.
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| Posted: 02/06/18 7:21 pm ::: |
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| NYL_WNBA_FAN wrote: |
| Honestly, it’s not surprising to me at all. I figured MSG, Barclays or WCC were the only 3 options. If true (no reason I can think of that it wouldn’t be) then I’m not holding out much hope that the long-term future is stable. That’s the part that worries me way more than 2018. |
My hope is two things 1.) We get a select few games at MSG & 2.) The new owner(s) has very deep pockets. |
Hope so. And I’ll add that a playoff run would be nice. Playoff runs have drawn additional attendance in the past. |
well, let's get out of that first round this year and then we'll talk.
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if this were an NBA team, we'd have an hour long coverage on Sportscenter right now regarding the situation. These things frustrate me about the league.
And I'll give Dolan this slight bit of credit. Whatever deal was supposed to happen clearly didn't. He had to options, keep the team and have them play in Westchester or fold the team. Be thankful we still have a team this season.
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| Posted: 02/06/18 8:12 pm ::: |
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| Also frustrated at the lack of free-agency player movement.
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| Posted: 02/06/18 8:31 pm ::: |
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| And I'll give Dolan this slight bit of credit. Whatever deal was supposed to happen clearly didn't. He had to options, keep the team and have them play in Westchester or fold the team. Be thankful we still have a team this season. |
But he basically can't fold the team. If he just says "I'm done", the league decides who they want to hand it over to, and someone takes over. Given the multiple people interested I would assume they had some kind of idea about where they'd have played if nothing Dolan-controlled was on offer. It really all makes very little sense. If he has even one iota of a brain cell he can't have thought he was going to get a meaningful sum of money to purchase the franchise. And if he didn't think that, then what was he waiting for? If you just want shot of the team, hand it over to somebody and run away. I don't get it. |
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| And I'll give Dolan this slight bit of credit. Whatever deal was supposed to happen clearly didn't. He had to options, keep the team and have them play in Westchester or fold the team. Be thankful we still have a team this season. |
But he basically can't fold the team. If he just says "I'm done", the league decides who they want to hand it over to, and someone takes over. Given the multiple people interested I would assume they had some kind of idea about where they'd have played if nothing Dolan-controlled was on offer. It really all makes very little sense. If he has even one iota of a brain cell he can't have thought he was going to get a meaningful sum of money to purchase the franchise. And if he didn't think that, then what was he waiting for? If you just want shot of the team, hand it over to somebody and run away. I don't get it. |
My guess is that while there are interested buyers, no one is ready to pull the trigger yet. So, Borders asked Dolan if he could hold on to the club a little longer until things are worked out. Dolan agreed to do it, but only on his terms which meant sending the team to Westchester. Everyone else is waiting for a schedule, and the Liberty themselves have planning to do, so the League agreed to the arrangement. Something had to be done just to get forward movement going for this season.
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| Posted: 02/06/18 10:13 pm ::: |
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I think in the long run this might be better.
Secure a great owner who can get things done, and figure out how to get the team back in the city limits for 2019.
Instead of a rush job that might lead to failure.
Now we have a year to make that happen.
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| Posted: 02/06/18 10:53 pm ::: |
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| Now that we know we will have a New York Liberty team for 2018--playing mostly at the Westchester County Center with some games at Madison Square Garden--I'd like to return to the same questions I've been asking for a while. Who is going to run the front office? Will we get a General Manager? Is sexual harasser Isiah Thomas still working for the Liberty? (I dearly hope not.) It would be nice if someone working for Hideous Lord Jimmy could answer these questions, though I assume no one will.
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So now that that is settled (I hope)
What do we do? Do we simply bring back our free agents, draft #10 and call it a day?
We've missed out on a lot of free agency. Rumors are out there but
Kizer and S. Johnson are the two un-signed (for now) players I would be going after
and maybe Latta
or do we try to get it done with trades
I could see some players being available depending on the direction their current team wants to go
my #1 target in this category would be Jefferson
followed by KCK
followed by Bonner (obviously a little more complicated but if PX decides to move on, and Indy doesn't make a decent offer, would PX trade her to NY? and would Bonner come?) Would NY also have to make a move for Dupree? (I'm not the biggest fan of Dupree but adding Bonner and Dupree for the right price could really move NY towards being a contender.)
The other small guard in Vegas? if not Jefferson, how about Plum?
Oh and new GM in Atlanta and having made some decent UFA acquisitions I could see someone like Clarendon, or maybe Hayes being available, and possibly McGhee-Stafford.
I doubt we could get in on the Howard competition, but a couple of years ago Zahui B and #10 could have got it done. Howard would probably start at the 3 in NY. (I don't really see it happening at all but since I was discussing her in another thread figure why not?
Colson is still out there, we might be able to get her for a decent contract and a no match, I wouldn't be too surprised if we could get her for a current or future 2nd round pick.
As a Deshields fan I would consider offering #10 and a player to move up in the draft. Any other player worth moving up for? G. Williams? Mitchell?
If we don't re-sign Vaughn where do we get the rest of our post depth?
Wait for the waiver wire?
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But he basically can't fold the team. If he just says "I'm done", the league decides who they want to hand it over to, and someone takes over |
I don't follow why he can't just fold the team because "the league would assign an owner". How would that hurt him since he says he loses money on the Liberty?
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| Posted: 02/07/18 4:18 am ::: |
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But he basically can't fold the team. If he just says "I'm done", the league decides who they want to hand it over to, and someone takes over |
I don't follow why he can't just fold the team because "the league would assign an owner". How would that hurt him since he says he loses money on the Liberty? |
I didn't say it would. The point was that he couldn't just disappear the team out of existence. He closes up the shop; the league takes the name and the squad and hands it over to its favourite option from the 'interested parties'. From his perspective he can just walk away, but that doesn't mean the team immediately dies as a result. |
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