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GEF34
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PG: Bird/Whalen/Sims
SG: Taurasi/Diggins
SF: Moore/Delle Donne
PF: Parker/ Stewart
C: Griner/Fowles/Charles
Last 3 cut Augustus, McCoughtry, N. Ogwumike
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You know they cut Diggins before so they won't be shy about doing it again, especially when it comes down to the notion of cutting those names.
Diggins is gonna have to be the WNBA MVP in 2015 to reach that kind of credibility to bump those names that are in their prime. We'll see, but I can't really see that happening. Sims is iffy too. Stewart should be iffy, but she's getting Geno's red carpet treatment. |
Diggins will be on the team as soon as Geno's not the coach.
Hartley and Dolson won't be on the team as soon as Geno's not the coach.
Stewart will be on the team deservedly or not because Geno is the coach. |
And Hartley and Dolson were never on the team. Learn your facts. |
I have a feeling he meant they won't even be considered for the initial pool. |
I don't particularly care what he meant or didn't mean. What he said was inaccurate. And solely meant to prove his unfounded point. |
No actually what I wrote was 100% accurate and what you wrote in your usual rush to provide a knee-jerk defense of all things UConn is wrong.
Nobody said this is the Olympic Roster, and players will be added and players will be cut to get to that roster, but according to USA Basketball this is at this time the USA Basketball Womens National Team.
You can get a bad case of arthritis in your knees doing that so often. |
But if you are going based on the "USA Basketball Women's National Team" then your statement doesn't make sense because Skylar Diggins is on the same "USA Basketball Women's National Team".
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GEF34
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| Posted: 05/01/15 3:45 pm ::: |
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I was impressed with Jennifer Hamson during the NCAA tournament last season and I'm glad the Sparks drafted her, but I'm shocked she has been invited to the USA Basketball training camps.
I'm very interested in seeing how she develops, but I'm not sure right now is the time to see how she does in USA Basketball training camps. |
They tend to throw a ton of centers at the camp with no chance of being close to making the team. I think it must be more to have lots of big bodies to practice against. |
That's a fair point, but certainly there are better centers to invite, especially considering she didn't play basketball for almost a year so her basketball readiness may still be less than 100%.
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ucdt3
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| Posted: 05/01/15 3:48 pm ::: |
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PG: Bird/Whalen/Sims
SG: Taurasi/Diggins
SF: Moore/Delle Donne
PF: Parker/ Stewart
C: Griner/Fowles/Charles
Last 3 cut Augustus, McCoughtry, N. Ogwumike
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You know they cut Diggins before so they won't be shy about doing it again, especially when it comes down to the notion of cutting those names.
Diggins is gonna have to be the WNBA MVP in 2015 to reach that kind of credibility to bump those names that are in their prime. We'll see, but I can't really see that happening. Sims is iffy too. Stewart should be iffy, but she's getting Geno's red carpet treatment. |
Diggins will be on the team as soon as Geno's not the coach.
Hartley and Dolson won't be on the team as soon as Geno's not the coach.
Stewart will be on the team deservedly or not because Geno is the coach. |
And Hartley and Dolson were never on the team. Learn your facts. |
I have a feeling he meant they won't even be considered for the initial pool. |
I don't particularly care what he meant or didn't mean. What he said was inaccurate. And solely meant to prove his unfounded point. |
No actually what I wrote was 100% accurate and what you wrote in your usual rush to provide a knee-jerk defense of all things UConn is wrong.
Nobody said this is the Olympic Roster, and players will be added and players will be cut to get to that roster, but according to USA Basketball this is at this time the USA Basketball Womens National Team.
You can get a bad case of arthritis in your knees doing that so often. |
Nice try. Then your Diggins comment makes no sense and the fact that you quoted Occasionalwnbafan's 12-player roster. All you wanted to do was throw Geno under the bus and restart the UConn-favoritism--Anti-Notre Dame saga. |
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| Posted: 05/01/15 3:51 pm ::: |
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I was impressed with Jennifer Hamson during the NCAA tournament last season and I'm glad the Sparks drafted her, but I'm shocked she has been invited to the USA Basketball training camps.
I'm very interested in seeing how she develops, but I'm not sure right now is the time to see how she does in USA Basketball training camps. |
They tend to throw a ton of centers at the camp with no chance of being close to making the team. I think it must be more to have lots of big bodies to practice against. |
That's a fair point, but certainly there are better centers to invite, especially considering she didn't play basketball for almost a year so her basketball readiness may still be less than 100%. |
The term "better" is obviously relative. Clearly USAB bases their decisions on Jayda Evans picks for AP All-American squads. |
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| Posted: 05/01/15 3:52 pm ::: |
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Nobody said this is the Olympic Roster, and players will be added and players will be cut to get to that roster, but according to USA Basketball this is at this time the USA Basketball Womens National Team.
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Actually according to USA Basketball it's the 2015 USA Basketball Women's National Team Mini-Camp Roster, not a team at all. Just camp participants.
http://www.usab.com/womens/national-team/roster.aspx
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dtsnms
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| Posted: 05/01/15 3:53 pm ::: |
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Nobody said this is the Olympic Roster, and players will be added and players will be cut to get to that roster, but according to USA Basketball this is at this time the USA Basketball Womens National Team.
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Actually according to USA Basketball it's the 2015 USA Basketball Women's National Team Mini-Camp Roster, not a team at all. Just camp participants.
http://www.usab.com/womens/national-team/roster.aspx
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GEF34
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| Posted: 05/01/15 4:00 pm ::: |
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I was impressed with Jennifer Hamson during the NCAA tournament last season and I'm glad the Sparks drafted her, but I'm shocked she has been invited to the USA Basketball training camps.
I'm very interested in seeing how she develops, but I'm not sure right now is the time to see how she does in USA Basketball training camps. |
They tend to throw a ton of centers at the camp with no chance of being close to making the team. I think it must be more to have lots of big bodies to practice against. |
That's a fair point, but certainly there are better centers to invite, especially considering she didn't play basketball for almost a year so her basketball readiness may still be less than 100%. |
The term "better" is obviously relative. Clearly USAB bases their decisions on Jayda Evans picks for AP All-American squads. |
True. I am curious to see how she is doing basketball wise now, she did take a lot of time off before resuming play.
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| Posted: 05/01/15 4:20 pm ::: |
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| So Parker is up for this mini-camp but not to play for the Sparks. hmmm.
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| Posted: 05/01/15 4:21 pm ::: |
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| So Parker is up for this mini-camp but not to play for the Sparks. hmmm. |
Taurasi is listed as well. And she's out for the season plus just had hand surgery. Just because they will be there, doesn't mean they'll play. They're likely just showing their loyalty. |
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GEF34
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| Posted: 05/01/15 4:27 pm ::: |
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| So Parker is up for this mini-camp but not to play for the Sparks. hmmm. |
Her Russian season just ended, so is she going to be playing in the training camp, or is she just going to be on the sideline and be part of the training camp?
But if she were to play in this training camp, I wouldn't have a problem with it because she is under no obligation to play for the Sparks this season. Just like when she miss the World Championships so she can have surgery and be ready for her Russian team I had no problem with that either.
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| Posted: 05/01/15 4:37 pm ::: |
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| I cannot help but believe these games hurt the WNBA
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GEF34
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| Posted: 05/01/15 4:45 pm ::: |
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| I cannot help but believe these games hurt the WNBA |
What games? The Olympics?
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| Posted: 05/01/15 4:55 pm ::: |
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| I cannot help but believe these games hurt the WNBA |
What games? The Olympics? |
No, how the players are using the rules to not play in the WNBA in 2015.
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ArtBest23
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| Posted: 05/01/15 4:55 pm ::: |
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Nobody said this is the Olympic Roster, and players will be added and players will be cut to get to that roster, but according to USA Basketball this is at this time the USA Basketball Womens National Team.
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Actually according to USA Basketball it's the 2015 USA Basketball Women's National Team Mini-Camp Roster, not a team at all. Just camp participants.
http://www.usab.com/womens/national-team/roster.aspx |
Actually, they make it clear that the roster is smaller than the full National Team and say "All available members of the 2014-16 USA Basketball Women’s National Team are expected to participate in the training camp."
So the roster excludes those who are not able to participate. That's why it's the mini-camp roster.
The title of their own article is "USA Basketball Women’s National Team To Train May 4-6 In Las Vegas." The article begins with "With an eye toward the 2016 Olympic Games and working to defend its streak of five-straight Olympic gold medals, the USA Basketball Women’s National Team will hold a three-day training camp May 4-6 at UNLV’s Mendenhall Center in Las Vegas." This is indeed "the team" as of now.
To be perfectly precise I probably should have said that Diggins won't make the final Olympic roster as long as Geno is coach. I suppose I should have anticipated that some UConners, lacking any substantive response, would start quibbling about semantics instead. Classic diversionary tactic. I'm pretty sure everyone, including you, knew exactly what I was saying.
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GEF34
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| Posted: 05/01/15 5:29 pm ::: |
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| I cannot help but believe these games hurt the WNBA |
What games? The Olympics? |
No, how the players are using the rules to not play in the WNBA in 2015. |
Huh, what "rules" are you referring to, there aren't any players that are using rules to get out of playing in the WNBA. Unless you are referring to the coring thing, but that has been done for years, DeLisha Milton-Jones almost sat out because she was cored in 2008.
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| Posted: 05/01/15 5:35 pm ::: |
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Nobody said this is the Olympic Roster, and players will be added and players will be cut to get to that roster, but according to USA Basketball this is at this time the USA Basketball Womens National Team.
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Actually according to USA Basketball it's the 2015 USA Basketball Women's National Team Mini-Camp Roster, not a team at all. Just camp participants.
http://www.usab.com/womens/national-team/roster.aspx |
Actually, they make it clear that the roster is smaller than the full National Team and say "All available members of the 2014-16 USA Basketball Women’s National Team are expected to participate in the training camp."
So the roster excludes those who are not able to participate. That's why it's the mini-camp roster.
The title of their own article is "USA Basketball Women’s National Team To Train May 4-6 In Las Vegas." The article begins with "With an eye toward the 2016 Olympic Games and working to defend its streak of five-straight Olympic gold medals, the USA Basketball Women’s National Team will hold a three-day training camp May 4-6 at UNLV’s Mendenhall Center in Las Vegas." This is indeed "the team" as of now.
To be perfectly precise I probably should have said that Diggins won't make the final Olympic roster as long as Geno is coach. I suppose I should have anticipated that some UConners, lacking any substantive response, would start quibbling about semantics instead. Classic diversionary tactic. I'm pretty sure everyone, including you, knew exactly what I was saying. |
I am not a "UConner", never have been, never will be, and that is the same way I read your post, as I responded earlier in this thread. You may have meant "team" to mean something different in each sentence, but I didn't understand as "team" to be different in each sentence.
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If all the vets are available I think it will be the hardest last few cuts the team has ever made
last summer this was my prediction for the team.
Bird/Whalen
Taurasi/Augustus
Catchings/Moore/McCoughtry
Parker/EDD
Fowles/Charles/Griner
I'm starting the longest tenured players at each position
Now with how the Worlds played out with players like Ogwumike showing up and playing great, and young players clearly being groomed for the future such as Stewart and Sims you've already got 15 deserving players. Then you add in others who have played for team USA at the Worlds and Olympics like Pondexter and Dupree. And then you finally add younger players on the rise who could be Olympians in the future like Diggins, C. Ogwumike, Robinson and Loyd. This is going to be the sickest build up to an Olympic team ever.
I can't wait to see the thread, the anger and the criticism as we get closer to the final team. I don't even know if I'm rooting for the vets or the young guns. Before I believed that there was no way the twelve I have at the top of the post could be knocked off if they were healthy, now I'm not so sure. It will be fun to watch it play out.
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| Posted: 05/02/15 6:08 am ::: |
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If all the vets are available I think it will be the hardest last few cuts the team has ever made
last summer this was my prediction for the team.
Bird/Whalen
Taurasi/Augustus
Catchings/Moore/McCoughtry
Parker/EDD
Fowles/Charles/Griner
I'm starting the longest tenured players at each position
Now with how the Worlds played out with players like Ogwumike showing up and playing great, and young players clearly being groomed for the future such as Stewart and Sims you've already got 15 deserving players. Then you add in others who have played for team USA at the Worlds and Olympics like Pondexter and Dupree. And then you finally add younger players on the rise who could be Olympians in the future like Diggins, C. Ogwumike, Robinson and Loyd. This is going to be the sickest build up to an Olympic team ever.
I can't wait to see the thread, the anger and the criticism as we get closer to the final team. I don't even know if I'm rooting for the vets or the young guns. Before I believed that there was no way the twelve I have at the top of the post could be knocked off if they were healthy, now I'm not so sure. It will be fun to watch it play out. |
I expect that 1 of those posts will be injured( EDD, Parker, Fowles, Charles or Griner). So Ogwumike or a young player like Steward can take that position. I would be very suprised if Pondexter makes it back on the team maybe if she has a MVP season with the Sky.
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| Posted: 05/02/15 7:46 am ::: |
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| Diana Taurasi was charged with a DUI and did not have to sit out for any USA basketball activities. So what makes you think that Grinder should sit out when there was another person involved in the incident?
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| Posted: 05/02/15 7:52 am ::: |
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PG: Bird/Whalen/Sims
SG: Taurasi/Diggins
SF: Moore/Delle Donne
PF: Parker/ Stewart
C: Griner/Fowles/Charles
Last 3 cut Augustus, McCoughtry, N. Ogwumike
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You know they cut Diggins before so they won't be shy about doing it again, especially when it comes down to the notion of cutting those names.
Diggins is gonna have to be the WNBA MVP in 2015 to reach that kind of credibility to bump those names that are in their prime. We'll see, but I can't really see that happening. Sims is iffy too. Stewart should be iffy, but she's getting Geno's red carpet treatment. |
instead of the committee picking for Geno after holding these pointless camps, just ask Geno who he wants and be done with it.
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| Posted: 05/02/15 3:45 pm ::: |
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| The talent is crazy! This list alone makes for an amazing USA 1 and USA 29 and those will be the teams fighting for gold if it was allowed
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| Posted: 05/02/15 4:33 pm ::: |
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PG: Bird/Whalen/Sims
SG: Taurasi/Diggins
SF: Moore/Delle Donne
PF: Parker/ Stewart
C: Griner/Fowles/Charles
Last 3 cut Augustus, McCoughtry, N. Ogwumike
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You know they cut Diggins before so they won't be shy about doing it again, especially when it comes down to the notion of cutting those names.
Diggins is gonna have to be the WNBA MVP in 2015 to reach that kind of credibility to bump those names that are in their prime. We'll see, but I can't really see that happening. Sims is iffy too. Stewart should be iffy, but she's getting Geno's red carpet treatment. |
instead of the committee picking for Geno after holding these pointless camps, just ask Geno who he wants and be done with it. |
I have and idea. Tell the Olympic Committee to get some guts and make Cheryl Reeve the Coach.
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| Interesting that the badly in need of rest Candace Parker is participating
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PG: Bird/Whalen/Sims
SG: Taurasi/Diggins
SF: Moore/Delle Donne
PF: Parker/ Stewart
C: Griner/Fowles/Charles
Last 3 cut Augustus, McCoughtry, N. Ogwumike
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You know they cut Diggins before so they won't be shy about doing it again, especially when it comes down to the notion of cutting those names.
Diggins is gonna have to be the WNBA MVP in 2015 to reach that kind of credibility to bump those names that are in their prime. We'll see, but I can't really see that happening. Sims is iffy too. Stewart should be iffy, but she's getting Geno's red carpet treatment. |
instead of the committee picking for Geno after holding these pointless camps, just ask Geno who he wants and be done with it. |
I have and idea. Tell the Olympic Committee to get some guts and make Cheryl Reeve the Coach. |
Why are you assuming she wants the position, she is already a head coach and deals with the stress of running a team. As a former assistant coach maybe she likes the chance of pace of just working with the team and scouting and not worrying about the media and the politics that go along with being a head coach.
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