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LOL Mark you're so much better than that.
It's like when Nicole Powell left Oregon for some random school. |
Why do you speak as if he was forced to take this position. I don’t know what he was looking for in a university, and while Sacramento State doesn’t come with the prestige of some other universities, it could fulfill what he was looking for. Unless you know some other information that he would be jobless if he didn’t take this and he needed this job, why can’t it be a job he wants and fits what he desires at this moment in time. |
Sounds like some of the cr@p people said when Jim Foster left wherever he was then (was it Ohio State?) to coach at Chattanooga. Like "Why would he do THAT? Go THERE, to that podunk little place?" But he did, and had quite a successful run, and had a lot of fun doing it, and in doing it, he built a pretty successful program which he turned over to Wes Moore, who ran with it until he went to NC State....and look where HE is now. So maybe hush about it?
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| Posted: 04/17/21 1:16 pm ::: |
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Wow, that would be interesting...and would make a lot of SEC fans REALLY unhappy! No love for Kim over there. She wasn't at all popular with Vol fans when she played at La Tech, kicking Lady Vol butt like she did. But LSU would probably love to have her.
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| Posted: 04/17/21 2:26 pm ::: |
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| Hoops9092 wrote: |
LOL Mark you're so much better than that.
It's like when Nicole Powell left Oregon for some random school. |
Why do you speak as if he was forced to take this position. I don’t know what he was looking for in a university, and while Sacramento State doesn’t come with the prestige of some other universities, it could fulfill what he was looking for. Unless you know some other information that he would be jobless if he didn’t take this and he needed this job, why can’t it be a job he wants and fits what he desires at this moment in time. |
Sounds like some of the cr@p people said when Jim Foster left wherever he was then (was it Ohio State?) to coach at Chattanooga. Like "Why would he do THAT? Go THERE, to that podunk little place?" But he did, and had quite a successful run, and had a lot of fun doing it, and in doing it, he built a pretty successful program which he turned over to Wes Moore, who ran with it until he went to NC State....and look where HE is now. So maybe hush about it? |
Yaa, No. 
Having NEVER been a HC, Mark is 'moving up', even if it's Sacto State. His association with Oregon, and proven skill at recruiting THE Best kids makes everyone think he deserves a P5 slot somewhere. I think he'd be capable of doing that, but....if he's cool with accepting a post in the Big Sky Conference, then maybe he knows what fits best for now.
Foster had already been at 2 P5 schools (Vandy, OH St) when he slid down to Chattanooga. He had a stellar run at both, but started sliding at OH St. But the SoCon job was NOT an upward or even a lateral move. Yes, he was successful at Chattanooga, but def on the downhill side of his career.
What might be MORE parallel is Foster's long-forgotten-but-productive 13 years @ St. Joes. THEN he got into the P5 scene. Unlike Campbell, Jim never assisted anywhere but at the high school level. Now, I respect Jim -- Big Ten COY several times, multiple NCAA tourney wins, 900+ wins, and a HOF presence places him in a fairly elite group of coaches. Mark can only aspire to that level of success, and it's a very reasonable aspiration.
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| Well, in that case, perhaps he's gotta start somewhere, so why not start small and work his way UP, rather than start big and crash and burn? Lord knows, we've seen THAT happen often enough!
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| Posted: 04/17/21 3:39 pm ::: |
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| Well, in that case, perhaps he's gotta start somewhere, so why not start small and work his way UP, rather than start big and crash and burn? Lord knows, we've seen THAT happen often enough! |
What's worse is to start small and crash and burn -- and Sac State has a rinky-dink gym, no reputation and who knows what kind of administrative/financial support.
Now if Sac State (or any mid-major) decides to make the necessary investments, success in women's basketball comes down to the right coach. But without the investments, the coach can't do it alone.
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| Posted: 04/17/21 6:30 pm ::: |
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| Well, in that case, perhaps he's gotta start somewhere, so why not start small and work his way UP, rather than start big and crash and burn? Lord knows, we've seen THAT happen often enough! |
What's worse is to start small and crash and burn -- and Sac State has a rinky-dink gym, no reputation and who knows what kind of administrative/financial support.
Now if Sac State (or any mid-major) decides to make the necessary investments, success in women's basketball comes down to the right coach. But without the investments, the coach can't do it alone. |
That's the part that puzzles me: Does he know something we don't know about this school? Cuz he's certainly experienced enough to know that it's tough for ANY coach to do well in a non-supportive school environment, even a talented person. He's (apparently) jumping from a Garden of Eden environment at OR to a skeletal entity as far as recent history reveals.
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Really does have a bit of a "show me the money" feel to it. Baylor is in the process of building a new basketball arena. Kim doesn't seem to like where it's likely to be built. Wonder if that plays in as well.
Still, LSU hasn't been paying anywhere near that much for a wbb coach.
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| Posted: 04/17/21 10:18 pm ::: |
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| Well, in that case, perhaps he's gotta start somewhere, so why not start small and work his way UP, rather than start big and crash and burn? Lord knows, we've seen THAT happen often enough! |
What's worse is to start small and crash and burn -- and Sac State has a rinky-dink gym, no reputation and who knows what kind of administrative/financial support.
Now if Sac State (or any mid-major) decides to make the necessary investments, success in women's basketball comes down to the right coach. But without the investments, the coach can't do it alone. |
Looks like Sac St floated a new arena project back in 2014 but students voted down their portion of the funding by a wide margin. No new arena plans have been publicly unveiled since
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/education/article4276742.html
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| Posted: 04/18/21 12:03 am ::: |
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Congratulations to Aarika! My daughter absolutely loved working with her at New Mexico, both on and off the court. She’s a wonderful person and coach, and very deserving of this!
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| Posted: 04/18/21 7:21 pm ::: |
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I read the article, but it didn’t mention what happened to the prior coach. Our team played there to open the 2019-2020 season, and I was impressed with the coach, with the level of play she was getting out of her young team.
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| Posted: 04/19/21 9:12 am ::: |
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Really does have a bit of a "show me the money" feel to it. Baylor is in the process of building a new basketball arena. Kim doesn't seem to like where it's likely to be built. Wonder if that plays in as well.
Still, LSU hasn't been paying anywhere near that much for a wbb coach. |
LSU's men's basketball coach, Will Wade, makes about $2.5 million per year. His buyout, as of April 1, 2021, would be $5.5 million.
NCAA committees have referred LSU to the IARP (Independent Accountability Resolution Process) due to an ongoing investigation concerning Wade's recruiting practices going back more than two years.
Should this panel issue a formal 'notice of allegations' to LSU, Wade will be gone. He signed an amended contract that allows LSU to fire him with cause should he be investigated for the most serious Level 1 or 2 violations, which is the type cases IARP handles.
My points?
If Wade is fired for cause, LSU will have to hire a new coach -- and likely pay more because of potential NCAA sanctions.
If LSU fires Wade without cause (similar to what Arizona did with Sean Miller who was under investigation and was subject to the NCAA's NOA), it will owe him the $5.5 million -- and will still have to pay a new coach to take over (and pay more because of potential NCAA sanctions).
Back in October 2020, the LSU athletic department said it expected to lose $80 million in revenue. LSU laid off athletic department employees, eliminated several positions in the department, made any staff making over $80,000 take a five percent salary decrease, announced no bonuses to staff and coaches for one year, and will only approve promotions, salary adjustments, and position replacements in "essential situations" through June 30, 2023.
In other words, LSU does NOT have the ability to match what Baylor is paying Kim Mulkey or to come close, without a major donor coming forward to handle the potential fallout from men’s basketball.
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| Posted: 04/19/21 9:50 am ::: |
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| In other words, LSU does NOT have the ability to match what Baylor is paying Kim Mulkey or to come close, without a major donor coming forward to handle the potential fallout from men’s basketball. |
That seems ovbious, then.
However.... does it hafta be about the money? |
It does if Kim Mulkey's contract with Baylor has buyout clauses/provisions.
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| Posted: 04/19/21 10:26 am ::: |
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Kansas hires two assistants https://kuathletics.com/womens-basketball-completes-coaching-staff/
LAWRENCE, Kan. – Head coach Brandon Schneider has announced the promotion of current assistant coach Terry Nooner to associate head coach as well as the additions of assistant coaches Karyla Middlebrook and Morgan Paige to the 2021-22 coaching staff.
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| Posted: 04/19/21 1:08 pm ::: |
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https://twitter.com/collegebbscoop/status/1384185735029268483?s=21
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From one sex-scandal plagued school to another, but at least escaping the religious hypocrisy of Baylor. Besides, Louisiana is home, and sometimes money isn't everything.
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