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Shades
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Posted: 02/04/19 12:18 am ::: |
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Megdal wrote something interesting about the Dantas offer. It seems he knows which players have guaranteed contracts. This is helpful info he should consider adding to the data base. Each team is limited to 6 guaranteed contracts. ATL apparently already have 6 guaranteed contracts signed on the roster. Crafty Reeve offered Dantas a guaranteed contract, therefore ATL can’t match it without trading away a current guaranteed contract, which they aren’t likely to do.
Angel McCoughtry
Tiffany Hayes
Renee Montgomery
Elizabeth Williams
Jessica Breland
Alex Bentley
If my understanding is correct and this is all true, the Lynx would basically be stealing Dantas away from ATL (after they stole Montgomery from MIN so shed no tears). Maybe they don’t even have to pay her that much. If this pans out, gotta give kudos to Reeve on this move.
Now let’s retire Brunson and pursue Zahui.
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Randy
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Posted: 02/04/19 7:31 am ::: |
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If all that is true, then other teams could have done the same thing. I suppose this also could be the basis for the claim in the Dallas thread that the Wings could make offer for Gray that LA couldn't match. Richyyy said it was nonsense.
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Shades
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Posted: 02/04/19 9:09 am ::: |
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I wanna know where Megdal is getting all this access to contract information. If the WNBA wants to lack transparency, he’s about the last person you’d want to have that information.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 02/04/19 9:35 am ::: |
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Randy wrote: |
If all that is true, then other teams could have done the same thing. I suppose this also could be the basis for the claim in the Dallas thread that the Wings could make offer for Gray that LA couldn't match. Richyyy said it was nonsense. |
Not like that is using any insider knowledge or great leap of deduction - you can't guarantee rookie scale contracts, and beyond those LA only have four players under contract. So it would be hard to have six of them guaranteed. |
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pilight
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Posted: 02/04/19 10:19 am ::: |
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Dantas wasn't missed after she went out hurt last year. Billings gave us everything we wanted without the added distraction of ill-advised three pointers.
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Shades
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Posted: 02/04/19 10:26 am ::: |
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SpaceJunkie wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
If my understanding is correct and this is all true, the Lynx would basically be stealing Dantas away from ATL (after they stole Montgomery from MIN so shed no tears). Maybe they don’t even have to pay her that much. If this pans out, gotta give kudos to Reeve on this move.
Now let’s retire Brunson and pursue Zahui. |
Nobody stole Montgomery away. She went to the team that gave her a better deal/valued her more/wherever she wanted. |
Well, luring a player away fits my definition of stealing in this case.
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Unlike the Dream, the Liberty have all the cap space in the world. If the Lynx have Dantas, by law, they must also have a rookie from Cal on their roster, even if it's just to trade both of them to themselves for Fowles. |
What are you, a Dungeons & Dragons player? I overturn your law and squash it like a grape under thine foot. Your turn.
I concede that Anigwe is most likely superior to RGray (if that’s even relevant), but you gotta let things play out and see what’s left to fill.
As far as the Liberty goes, they might be cap heavy depending on which players they want back. Boyd and Zahui are both seeking raises. They have Vaughn, Prince, and Zellous waiting on the wing. Probably can’t get them on guaranteed contracts, but worth a shot trying for her. Reeve even recently acknowledged Zahui as a nice player.
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SpaceJunkie
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Posted: 02/04/19 10:43 am ::: |
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So the 2019 Lynx roster so far is currently like this?
Robinson / Jones
Augustus / Wright?
Christmas / Zandalasini
Dantas / Brunson
Fowles / Fagbenle
Zandalasini & Fagbenle are re-joining the team after their tournament? I always had thought Lynx would have room for 2 rookies, unless they trade their 2nd round picks, though maybe they'd have a 3rd rookie as a placeholder for Ceci & Temi? I guess everything depends on Brunson or not (or if Maya gets traded, or whatever) if they sign another player?
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Shades
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Posted: 02/04/19 10:44 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Dantas wasn't missed after she went out hurt last year. Billings gave us everything we wanted without the added distraction of ill-advised three pointers. |
Would you remind SpaceJunkie that Billings is a player the Lynx could have gotten with the #12 pick that the Lynx gave up in the DRob trade?
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Posted: 02/04/19 10:47 am ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Dantas wasn't missed after she went out hurt last year. Billings gave us everything we wanted without the added distraction of ill-advised three pointers. |
Would you remind SpaceJunkie that Billings is a player the Lynx could have gotten with the #12 pick that the Lynx gave up in the DRob trade? |
Hey SpaceJunkie - guess what - Lynx could have had Billings.....
So what's next for Reeve on her quest to create the Redeem Team - offers to Zahui B? Brittany Boyd? Will she even get zealous about it and go for TRP or R. Williams?
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Shades
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Posted: 02/04/19 11:04 am ::: |
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My scenario if Maya is just sitting out for the season. If Maya gets traded, it’s a whole different ball game
Robinson/Jones
Augustus/Wright/Johannes($42K)
Christmas /Zandalasini
Dantas/Zahui/#6
Fowles/Fagbenle
#16 + #20 for Zahui?
#18 for Laksa or Chinese deferral? If Johannes not available, draft guard at #18.
If Durr drops to #6 draft her instead of a post.
Sign one temp player if needed until Zandalasini and Fagbenle return.
Sound like a plan?
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Shades
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Posted: 02/04/19 11:39 am ::: |
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There's no good FA PGs out there right now (unless NY would sign & trade Boyd)? Knowing what the salaries for players are now, I would've rather cored Montgomery for a season if she was willing to stay with the Lynx then and then Billings could've competed with Temi, and Howard given max contract, and without the Lynx being cursed, Brunson would never have gotten injured. |
There were three decent RFA PG’s: Boyd, Gray, and Cloud
The Lynx own the rights to a handful of guards: Berkani, the Aussie that looks like Shoni, Anna Cruz. Berkani and the Aussie will have to turn into veterans before Reeve is interested.
You were an AJones fanboy before you converted to a DRob fanboy. You should have been more than willing to put all the eggs into the AJones basket, backed up by combo guard, TWright.
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Posted: 02/04/19 11:56 am ::: |
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New York losing Boyd would be stupid. Even if we get a pick, there's no PGs in this draft that are starting material. I can't imagine New York not re-signing Boyd.
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SpaceJunkie
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Posted: 02/04/19 11:58 am ::: |
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You were an AJones fanboy before you converted to a DRob fanboy. You should have been more than willing to put all the eggs into the AJones basket, backed up by combo guard, TWright. |
I assumed Whalen was close to being finished, so I figured D-Rob was to groom behind Whalen to be starter when Whalen retires (to me nothing is wrong with D-Rob except her not shooting 3s is only a mental issue; her injury at the end of last year was a fluke injury due to The Curse being nervous how D-Rob played well in win at Chicago when she got start over Whalen, so The Curse was trying to make 100% sure Lynx finish .500 (The Curse didn't account for the Mystics not playing for anything last game of the season though) and lose in the first round of the playoffs by making sure players got injured), as I viewed Jones' ceiling as quality backup. I'd rather have had combo guard Jones just worrying about shooting 3s last year playing alongside D-Rob.
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pilight
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Posted: 02/04/19 1:08 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Megdal wrote something interesting about the Dantas offer. It seems he knows which players have guaranteed contracts. This is helpful info he should consider adding to the data base. Each team is limited to 6 guaranteed contracts. ATL apparently already have 6 guaranteed contracts signed on the roster. Crafty Reeve offered Dantas a guaranteed contract, therefore ATL can’t match it without trading away a current guaranteed contract, which they aren’t likely to do. |
If they decide Angel will be out all season they could suspend her and match the Dantas offer
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Posted: 02/04/19 1:47 pm ::: |
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Just stop talking spacejunkie...it gets old when you say Reeve wanted to make sure Seattle won the title...at least get some new material
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Shades
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Posted: 02/04/19 2:10 pm ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
Megdal wrote something interesting about the Dantas offer. It seems he knows which players have guaranteed contracts. This is helpful info he should consider adding to the data base. Each team is limited to 6 guaranteed contracts. ATL apparently already have 6 guaranteed contracts signed on the roster. Crafty Reeve offered Dantas a guaranteed contract, therefore ATL can’t match it without trading away a current guaranteed contract, which they aren’t likely to do. |
If they decide Angel will be out all season they could suspend her and match the Dantas offer |
How do suspend a guaranteed contract? I don’t think she even needed a guaranteed contract to get paid since she got hurt on the job. You wanna call the Sparks crooks?
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SpaceJunkie
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Posted: 02/04/19 2:18 pm ::: |
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Just stop talking spacejunkie...it gets old when you say Reeve wanted to make sure Seattle won the title...at least get some new material |
Because I've never in the history of my life seen a team so obviously make a move who's only purpose is to turn another team into a championship dynasty and tank like the Lynx did last year. I don't see teams like the Patriots or Warriors turning other teams into dynasties and tanking into irrelevancy. Plus everything has followed as it's supposed to, so I don't think it's nice of Reeve, to not only ask for the Lynx to not win and other teams to win more titles than the Lynx, but for asking for Brunson to get injured, but only in Minnesota do people want their own players to get injured and teams not win. But all I was doing today was defending D-Rob.
Anyways, you don't even care if the Lynx win or not—all you care about is the Sparks losing.
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Posted: 02/04/19 6:06 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
Megdal wrote something interesting about the Dantas offer. It seems he knows which players have guaranteed contracts. This is helpful info he should consider adding to the data base. Each team is limited to 6 guaranteed contracts. ATL apparently already have 6 guaranteed contracts signed on the roster. Crafty Reeve offered Dantas a guaranteed contract, therefore ATL can’t match it without trading away a current guaranteed contract, which they aren’t likely to do. |
If they decide Angel will be out all season they could suspend her and match the Dantas offer |
How do suspend a guaranteed contract? I don’t think she even needed a guaranteed contract to get paid since she got hurt on the job. You wanna call the Sparks crooks? |
You can suspend a player on a guaranteed contract if you have cause. For instance, if someone shows up late or not at all because they're playing for their national team. However, as you noted, Angel was injured while playing for the Dream so they have to pay her.
The other thing to remember is that players don't get paid when they're suspended. It's considered punishment.
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