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BamaEd
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 Posted: 08/12/18 7:23 pm ::: |
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It's great that CP is playing well, but dang LA, y'all gotta help her out. Not Parker was 3-20 from the floor Ryan said? That's not good at all.
Bonner is playing great but she better be careful she doesn't get a T.
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| Posted: 08/12/18 7:26 pm ::: |
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| Key difference in this matchup is that Beard doesnât seem to be in DTâs head. |
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mercfan3
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| Posted: 08/12/18 7:40 pm ::: |
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Me: what the hell are you doing DB, we have five seconds..we donât need to take a ridiculous half court shot â
Also Me: NICE SHOT DB!!! GREAT DECISION MAKING.
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StevenHW
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| Posted: 08/12/18 7:41 pm ::: |
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Bonner from way downtown...BANG!
Merc leads 67-54 at the of the 3rd quarter.
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| Posted: 08/12/18 8:07 pm ::: |
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| I guess ESPN had it wrong... how is LA ahead of CT when they have the same record and CT beat LA twice ?
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| Posted: 08/12/18 8:10 pm ::: |
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| Riquans was taking shots like She was the first option... Candace was in there. Goodness.
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| Posted: 08/12/18 8:17 pm ::: |
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| Interesting tha Vadeeva playing 15 minutes tonight and Lavender just 8. I wonder if Lavender will be a Spark member next season. She really hasn't shown much this season.
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jap
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| Posted: 08/12/18 8:20 pm ::: |
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| toad455 wrote: |
| Interesting tha Vadeeva playing 15 minutes tonight and Lavender just 8. I wonder if Lavender will be a Spark member next season. She really hasn't shown much this season. |
Masha has played more minutes than Jantel for a couple of games now. If we can get Marianna Tolo to pair with Masha as post reserves backing up starters Nneka and CP3, we can be fine.
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Randy
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| Posted: 08/12/18 8:38 pm ::: |
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| Spraks now in 5th and could fall all the way to 7th. Have to play DC and CT on the road. Probably will beat the Liberty though. Can no longer get to second.
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| Posted: 08/12/18 9:24 pm ::: |
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| yeah, Vadeeva covering the 5 & Tolo covering the 4 next season would be great. No need to keep Lavender. Is she a UFA next season?
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| Posted: 08/13/18 3:07 am ::: |
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| Its only called a foul now because they review almost everything. In the past and overseas this is a no call. Inadvertent contact, play on
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| Posted: 08/13/18 9:52 am ::: |
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| Its only called a foul now because they review almost everything. In the past and overseas this is a no call. Inadvertent contact, play on |
You donât get to elbow someone in the face and call it aâmove onâ
She didnât inadvertently elbow DT. She knew DT was there, and the elbow popped out more. There was no reason for her to shoot her elbow back, but to clear space. (It wasnât like she was coming down with the ball, and DT was to the side of her.)
Not only do Griner and Liz get called for much less (like, true incidental contact), but they usually get called for a flagrant on it too.
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Vadeeva looked good, and then I saw she only had one rebound ... but the two threes looked smooth, as if she can do that all the time.
She will be a player, no doubt, but can Agler play her and her fouls and inexperience in what look to be two do-or-die games?
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Good game by PHX. Its about time BG started rebounding. For some reason, she only comes to play against certain teams. DB was light out (seems like no one wanted to even attempt to guard her). I like how Bay Bay was aggressive for LA. It seems like no one else wanted to be aggressive accept for Bay Bay, Chelsea Gray, and Vadeeva
1. what is up with LA. Does Alger have certain players under restraints?
Its like no one wanted to shoot the ball until it go later in the shot clock. I thougt Sims would have been more aggressive since PHX doesn't have anyone who can keep up with her on the perimeter. LA passed up a lot of open shots. Phoenix gave them at least 2 feet of space. They should have been more aggressive at trying to score the ball.
2. Agler just gave up. At the beginning of the 4th, he did not put Neka or Beard back in the game. I though that they could have made a run. Even though Vadeeva was playing well, he still could have kept her in the game and put Candace Parker in at the the three and let Gray play the one.
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willtalk
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| Posted: 08/13/18 5:38 pm ::: |
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| ClayK wrote: |
Vadeeva looked good, and then I saw she only had one rebound ... but the two threes looked smooth, as if she can do that all the time.
She will be a player, no doubt, but can Agler play her and her fouls and inexperience in what look to be two do-or-die games? |
Stats do not always reflect a players play, especially when it comes to rebounds. If the ball does not come in your direction you can not get the rebound. Vadeeva unlike most of the other posts on LA does block out her man. She also helps out on defense quite a bit. That is why sh often gets those recovery fouls. Rebound stats involve a bit of luck since sometimes the ball just bounces right to a player. Evaluating a players game is more about how well they make use of an opportunity when it presents itself. The same is true with assists. Those depend on your teammates hitting their shots. Individual games often give a false image, but over time these things tend to even themselves out.
I personally have been a fan of Vadeeva's for quite some time. It is really difficult to get a real evaluation of a player when they are not given minutes to get comfortable. Angler always had her on a short lease and would pull her out after a few minutes. LA has no other physical posts. The rest avoid contact and except for Nneka want to hang on the parameter. In the few minutes she has been given game time I have noticed that her physical style as bothered many an opposing post player. She appears to be far stronger than he size makes her appear.
In respect to Parker, she played really well in the first half. It did seem to me that there was a specific point still far too early in the game when she decided her effort was over. That is the problem with her game. You never know when she will quit giving effort. It can happen at any time in any game. People do not recognize how difficult is is for teammates to play with a sporadic player. When the offense revolves around a player teammates often end up standing around watching, So when that player quits or their shots quit dropping it is difficult for them to suddenly again get involved in the offense again once they are out of sync. The announcers say Parker needs help but much of that was circumstance. Parkers shots were just dropping.
I must say that in this game Parker did not dominate the ball as much. She just took the opportunities that were presented to her. Still her teammates still fell into that same pattern and didn't get back into a sans Parker offense until she was on the bench when the made that come back.That was with Parker on the bench. They tend get into a pattern of deferring to her when she is on the floor. They way they play with out her is entirely different. They move the ball better.
Parker is very effective in and likes to play an isolation game. That hinders ball movement at which the rest of the team ( except for Nnika ) excels . They need to learn to switch back and forth from one to the other within the game depending on variables. I often saw this same problem manifest itself on NBA teams that had ball dominant players many years back. The same players would have great stats and dominate parts of and certain games but at the expense of their teams overall success. Unlike those players Parker has shown she can also play without needing to be totally ball dominant. I think she got off track during Nnika's absence although she had been trending in that direction already.
Most basketball fans tend to focus on their player favorites and less on team play.So they ignore the effects on a team just as long as their player crush does well. I personally never cared for ball dominant players. There is a time and a place for that, but it should be at the end of the shot clock or at the end of quarters, halves or games.
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