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Posted: 10/26/05 3:14 pm ::: |
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There won't be a backlash because most people don't care about this stuff.
Rosie Jones came out in the LPGA, prime time, wrote an editorial in the NY Times, and the reaction was a big yawn. Olivia travel did well with Rosie I'm sure Swoops will deliver too.
This story is a non-story. |
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dtsnms
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Posted: 10/26/05 3:17 pm ::: |
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vanyogan wrote: |
There won't be a backlash because most people don't care about this stuff.
Rosie Jones came out in the LPGA, prime time, wrote an editorial in the NY Times, and the reaction was a big yawn. Olivia travel did well with Rosie I'm sure Swoops will deliver too.
This story is a non-story. |
Thanks for that definitive answer Van. We can all go home now! Van says it's over.
Hey Van, Rosie Jones ain't the best in the world with all those medals and trophies.
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vanyogan
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Posted: 10/26/05 3:41 pm ::: |
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dtsnms wrote: |
vanyogan wrote: |
There won't be a backlash because most people don't care about this stuff.
Rosie Jones came out in the LPGA, prime time, wrote an editorial in the NY Times, and the reaction was a big yawn. Olivia travel did well with Rosie I'm sure Swoops will deliver too.
This story is a non-story. |
Thanks for that definitive answer Van. We can all go home now! Van says it's over.
Hey Van, Rosie Jones ain't the best in the world with all those medals and trophies. |
Jones was big enough. She has been top ten in annual earnings several times and played most of her career in the top 20 year end earnings. She played on the USA Solheim Cup six times. She has eight top tens this year. Every golfer who follows golf knows who she is. She has a reputation for pure confidence, toughness, competitive fire. The LPGA fans are about as conservative as women sport fans get. Are you saying the WNBA fans are less tolerant than LPGA fans? |
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dtsnms
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Posted: 10/26/05 3:43 pm ::: |
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vanyogan wrote: |
dtsnms wrote: |
vanyogan wrote: |
There won't be a backlash because most people don't care about this stuff.
Rosie Jones came out in the LPGA, prime time, wrote an editorial in the NY Times, and the reaction was a big yawn. Olivia travel did well with Rosie I'm sure Swoops will deliver too.
This story is a non-story. |
Thanks for that definitive answer Van. We can all go home now! Van says it's over.
Hey Van, Rosie Jones ain't the best in the world with all those medals and trophies. |
Jones was big enough. She has been top ten in annual earnings several times and played most of her career in the top 20 year end earnings. She played on the USA Solheim Cup six times. She has eight top tens this year. Every golfer who follows golf knows who she is. She has a reputation for pure confidence, toughness, competitive fire. The LPGA fans are about as conservative as women sport fans get. Are you saying the WNBA fans are less tolerant than LPGA fans? |
You said it yourself. Every GOLFER WHO FOLLOWS GOLF knows Jones. Non-basketball fans know Swoopes.
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Posted: 10/26/05 3:45 pm ::: |
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vanyogan wrote: |
The LPGA fans are about as conservative as women sport fans get. |
you've obviously never been to Dinah Shore...
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Posted: 10/26/05 3:52 pm ::: |
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I'm not trying to start a war here. I'm just stating my opinion like you did yours. As far as I go, The Bible speaks against homosexuality, and I certainly believe that. Like I said, that's MY belief, and while I wish and pray more people felt that way, I know better and still have to respect their opinion. As far as the media, I was trying to say what is the backlash going to be in the present that all the haters will be jumping on, such as saying that this league will fail because of it or that they knew everyone in women's basketball was gay. In other words, will they hate this sport even more now? |
As one who was trained as a minister, and one who has left the church because of its inability to accept and love people the way Jesus teaches, Leviticus also says slavery is ok, touching the skin of a pig rates a hire punishment then homosexuality (I wonder why we put up with those who play football), and that women are to remain silent. Lets not forget shellfish, and the whole mixing of cheese and meat thing. All of which rate the "abomination to the Lord" comment.
Since this is about basketball I suggest we leave religious faith out of the conversation. |
Well remember that you're mixing New and Old Testament phrases, and not all religions believe in literal interpretations of the Bible...
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Posted: 10/26/05 3:53 pm ::: |
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vanyogan wrote: |
There won't be a backlash because most people don't care about this stuff.
Rosie Jones came out in the LPGA, prime time, wrote an editorial in the NY Times, and the reaction was a big yawn. Olivia travel did well with Rosie I'm sure Swoops will deliver too.
This story is a non-story. |
I agree. IMO, what someone does in their private life if there business, I might not agree with what that person is doing , but I'm not going to judge them.
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Posted: 10/26/05 3:56 pm ::: |
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womens_hoops wrote: |
vanyogan wrote: |
The LPGA fans are about as conservative as women sport fans get. |
you've obviously never been to Dinah Shore... |
For the area, that would be conservative. I did hear that the gay gals are pretty strong supporters of that event, but I'm sure that's true everywhere. It doesn't bother the sponsors, purses are growing very fast these days. ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) |
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Posted: 10/26/05 5:22 pm ::: |
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In terms of an actual backlash, forget it. Swoopes is the perfect person to come out on behalf of the 'gay' WNBA. I say she's bulletproof and just watch and see if I'm right.
As far as some kind of backlash in the WNBA, among other players? Please. She's speaks for, represents, and is a hero now to more than we know. Every player in women's basketball except a rare few deals with this as a part of their job. If they can't to that succesfully they're gone.
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Posted: 10/26/05 5:23 pm ::: |
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Anyone who has played long enough to become a free agent, has already played with a gaggle of lesbians |
Ah, thanks - I was wondering what the proper noun was for lesbians in a group.
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Posted: 10/26/05 5:25 pm ::: |
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O.G. wrote: |
bigsportzbabe wrote: |
Anyone who has played long enough to become a free agent, has already played with a gaggle of lesbians |
Ah, thanks - I was wondering what the proper noun was for lesbians in a group. |
This is another classic exchange, along with BCBG's comments about Webber and T-Spoon.
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readyAIMfire53
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Posted: 10/26/05 5:36 pm ::: |
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The real backlash may come from free agents that will not want to play with Swoopes. I have to think, however, that most of the players already know. |
Anyone who has played long enough to become a free agent, has already played with a gaggle of lesbians |
...and they've played with a whole bucket-load of straight women as well...
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Posted: 10/26/05 5:49 pm ::: |
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...and they've played with a whole bucket-load of straight women as well...
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Posted: 10/26/05 6:02 pm ::: |
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I am only 15 and I looked up to Sheryl Swoopes alot but now I really dont understand what to think about her coming out because parent and other people really dont want me to be looking up to a gay basketball player I mean being that im straight and I idolized her as much as I hate 2 admit it the way I looked at her will never be the same and I cant help it but hey atleast she was woman enought to admit it ya know
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Posted: 10/26/05 9:39 pm ::: |
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downsouthchica wrote: |
I am only 15 and I looked up to Sheryl Swoopes alot but now I really dont understand what to think about her coming out because parent and other people really dont want me to be looking up to a gay basketball player I mean being that im straight and I idolized her as much as I hate 2 admit it the way I looked at her will never be the same and I cant help it but hey atleast she was woman enought to admit it ya know |
hey , it really doesn't matter who they sleep with if they can play, right? So keep idolizing the players for their play and let their private lives be their private lives, OK?
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Posted: 10/26/05 9:47 pm ::: |
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downsouthchica wrote: |
I am only 15 and I looked up to Sheryl Swoopes alot but now I really dont understand what to think about her coming out because parent and other people really dont want me to be looking up to a gay basketball player I mean being that im straight and I idolized her as much as I hate 2 admit it the way I looked at her will never be the same and I cant help it but hey atleast she was woman enought to admit it ya know |
I hate to be rude, but your post was completely ignorant. At 15, I knew how to separate a basketball player's personal life from his or her professional life. I looked up to Iverson despite his foolish off-the-court antics. Millions of people look up to Kobe despite knowing that he committed adultery. If people can look past the adultery and substance abuse problems of the NBA, the substance abuse problems and sex scandals of the NFL, and steroids problem in baseball, why the hell can't you get past the personal decisions of female athletes? I'd also like to point out that while lesbianism is completely LEGAL, steroids and substance abuse aren't. Remember that.
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Posted: 10/26/05 11:13 pm ::: |
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downsouthchica wrote: |
I am only 15 and I looked up to Sheryl Swoopes alot but now I really dont understand what to think about her coming out because parent and other people really dont want me to be looking up to a gay basketball player I mean being that im straight and I idolized her as much as I hate 2 admit it the way I looked at her will never be the same and I cant help it but hey atleast she was woman enought to admit it ya know |
I hate to be rude, but your post was completely ignorant. At 15, I knew how to separate a basketball player's personal life from his or her professional life. I looked up to Iverson despite his foolish off-the-court antics. Millions of people look up to Kobe despite knowing that he committed adultery. If people can look past the adultery and substance abuse problems of the NBA, the substance abuse problems and sex scandals of the NFL, and steroids problem in baseball, why the hell can't you get past the personal decisions of female athletes? I'd also like to point out that while lesbianism is completely LEGAL, steroids and substance abuse aren't. Remember that. |
I dont care what you think of me or my post if I feel this way I feel this way you can change that so dont worry about the words I say unless they are directed torward you holla
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