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PostPosted: 11/15/13 8:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

These aren't the Three to See this year (in my opinion), but apparently they are friends off the court.
http://espn.go.com/ncw/video?gameId=400508661



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PostPosted: 11/16/13 5:26 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

caune wrote:
Where is Tolo playing this season?


With Bourges Basket in France. And they made it very though last game against UMMC (DT and Parker). They lost 52-57 but Tolo couldnt play
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Bourges could have been able to counter Parker better had they had Australian center Marianna Tolo available to them (Tolo was denied Russian visa), instead they had to play Dutch forward Chatilla Van Grinsven for almost 20 minutes. Providing Bourges stay healthy, the return match on January 22 will be a must-watch.

http://lovewomensbasketball.com/2013/11/15/roundup-round-2-in-euroleague-women/



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Michelle89 wrote:
caune wrote:
Where is Tolo playing this season?


With Bourges Basket in France. And they made it very though last game against UMMC (DT and Parker). They lost 52-57 but Tolo couldnt play
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Bourges could have been able to counter Parker better had they had Australian center Marianna Tolo available to them (Tolo was denied Russian visa), instead they had to play Dutch forward Chatilla Van Grinsven for almost 20 minutes. Providing Bourges stay healthy, the return match on January 22 will be a must-watch.

http://lovewomensbasketball.com/2013/11/15/roundup-round-2-in-euroleague-women/


bahh. I hate when players play in France, Their season is too long. They are the last to arrive and for a new player that would not work.
Of course now that Coach Brondello is in charge of player personnel who knows the direction the team will take....



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PostPosted: 11/16/13 10:24 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I noticed this little side article on piece pilight posted.
An attempt at Top 5 for 2014 by Bernadette Pasely.

1. Chiney Ogwumike
2. Odyssey Sims
3. Alyssa Thomas
4. Maggie Lucas
5. Jerica Coley

http://janettv.com/college-basketball-stars-most-likely-be-top-5-wnba-draft-picks-2014



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Shades wrote:
I noticed this little side article on piece pilight posted.
An attempt at Top 5 for 2014 by Bernadette Pasely.

1. Chiney Ogwumike
2. Odyssey Sims
3. Alyssa Thomas
4. Maggie Lucas
5. Jerica Coley

http://janettv.com/college-basketball-stars-most-likely-be-top-5-wnba-draft-picks-2014


Who?



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mavcarter wrote:
Shades wrote:
I noticed this little side article on piece pilight posted.
An attempt at Top 5 for 2014 by Bernadette Pasely.

1. Chiney Ogwumike
2. Odyssey Sims
3. Alyssa Thomas
4. Maggie Lucas
5. Jerica Coley

http://janettv.com/college-basketball-stars-most-likely-be-top-5-wnba-draft-picks-2014


Who?


The leading scorer in the nation last season



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pilight wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
Shades wrote:
I noticed this little side article on piece pilight posted.
An attempt at Top 5 for 2014 by Bernadette Pasely.

1. Chiney Ogwumike
2. Odyssey Sims
3. Alyssa Thomas
4. Maggie Lucas
5. Jerica Coley

http://janettv.com/college-basketball-stars-most-likely-be-top-5-wnba-draft-picks-2014


Who?


The leading scorer in the nation last season


Ahh, so Kevi Luper 2.0.



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PostPosted: 11/17/13 11:55 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Holy Coley!

http://www.holycoley.com/



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PostPosted: 11/17/13 2:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

mavcarter wrote:
pilight wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
Shades wrote:
I noticed this little side article on piece pilight posted.
An attempt at Top 5 for 2014 by Bernadette Pasely.

1. Chiney Ogwumike
2. Odyssey Sims
3. Alyssa Thomas
4. Maggie Lucas
5. Jerica Coley

http://janettv.com/college-basketball-stars-most-likely-be-top-5-wnba-draft-picks-2014


Who?


The leading scorer in the nation last season


Ahh, so Kevi Luper 2.0.


She's better than that, but not a top five pick



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College Sports Madness' Top 30 Ranking
http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/womens-basketball/wnba-draft-profiles
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Rank   Name   Class   Position   Ht.   Wt.   College
1   Chiney Ogwumike   Sr   PF   6'3"   NA   Stanford
2   Odyssey Sims   Sr   PG   5'8"   NA   Baylor
3   Alyssa Thomas   Sr   PF   6'2"   NA   Maryland
4   Chelsea Gray   Sr   PG   5'11"   NA   Duke
5   Stefanie Dolson   Sr   C   6'5"   NA   Connecticut
6   Kayla McBride   Sr   SG   5'11"   NA   Notre Dame
7   Shoni Schimmel   Sr   PG   5'10"   NA   Louisville
8   Bria Hartley   Sr   SG   5'7"   NA   Connecticut
9   Natalie Achonwa   Sr   PF   6'3"   NA   Notre Dame
10   Gennifer Brandon   Sr   PF   6'2"   NA   California
11   DeNesha Stallworth   Sr   C   6'3"   NA   Kentucky
12   Maggie Lucas   Sr   SG   5'9"   NA   Penn State
13   Jordan Hooper   Sr   SF   6'2"   NA   Nebraska
14   Meighan Simmons   Sr   SG   5'9"   NA   Tennessee
15   Aaryn Ellenberg   Sr   SG   5'7"   NA   Oklahoma
16   Theresa Plaisance   Sr   PF   6'5"   NA   LSU
17   Tiffany Bias   Sr   PG   5'6"   NA   Oklahoma State
18   Natasha Howard   Sr   PF   6'3"   NA   Florida State
19   Michelle Plouffe   Sr   PF   6'4"   NA   Utah
20   Haley Peters   Sr   SF   6'3"   NA   Duke
21   Hallie Christofferson   Sr   PF   6'3"   NA   Iowa State
22   Samarie Walker   Sr   PF   6'1"   NA   Kentucky
23   Antonita Slaughter   Sr   SF   6'1"   NA   Louisville
24   Alicia DeVaughn   Sr   C   6'4"   NA   Maryland
25   Tricia Liston   Sr   SG   6'1"   NA   Duke
26   Cassie Harberts   Sr   PF   6'2"   NA   USC
27   Christina Foggie   Sr   SG   5'9"   NA   Vanderbilt
28   Ebony Rowe   Sr   SF   6'1"   NA   Middle Tennessee State
29   Tyaunna Marshall   Sr   SG   5'9"   NA   Georgia Tech
30   Chassidy Fussell   Sr   SG   5'10"   NA   Texas


College Sports Madness has always been pretty bad, but nothing too outrageous here.

Some might object to Coley not being in the Top 30, but you won't get a fuss out of me.

Maybe upward trend arrows for Plouffe and Foggie? Can Foggie play the point?



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Are the Plouffe sisters equals(Identical Twins) or is Michelle that much better than Katherine?



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Through 11/23/2013
Code:
                                       |---TOTAL---| |---3-PTS---|               |----REBOUNDS----|
## Player              GP-GS  Min--Avg  FG-FGA   Pct 3FG-FGA   Pct  FT-FTA   Pct  Off Def  Tot  Avg  PF FO   A  TO Blk Stl  Pts  Avg
11 Natalie Achonwa....  1-1    14 14.0   2-4    .500   0-0    .000   0-0    .000    0   3    3  3.0   1  0   3   2   1   2    4  4.0
03 Bias, Tiffany......  5-5   167 33.4  24-58   .414   3-13   .231  18-24   .750    0  12   12  2.4   8  0  36  14   0  20   69 13.8
25 Brandon, Gennifer..  2-0    22 11.0   3-10   .300   0-1    .000   0-0    .000    2   2    4  2.0   3  0   0   0   2   1    6  3.0
31 Dolson, Stefanie...  7-7   219 31.3  39-68   .574   3-10   .300  15-21   .714   18  49   67  9.6  15  0  31  13  16   7   96 13.7
10 Foggie, Christina..  5-5   149 29.8  25-55   .455  13-37   .351  37-41   .902    2  17   19  3.8   7  0  19  14   1   4  100 20.0
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12 Gray, Chelsea......  4-4   114 28.5  18-35   .514   4-11   .364  14-17   .824    5  16   21  5.3  10  0  34  14   1  13   54 13.5
14 Hartley, Bria......  7-7   226 32.3  41-89   .461  10-38   .263  11-19   .579    5  28   33  4.7  11  0  38  10   0   9  103 14.7
35 Hooper, Jordan.....  4-4   120 30.0  26-55   .473   9-27   .333  10-11   .909   10  32   42 10.5   6  0   6   7   2   3   71 17.8
33 Howard, Natasha....  4-4    97 24.3  19-33   .576   0-0    .000  15-23   .652   12  12   24  6.0  11  0   2  14  10   5   53 13.3
32 Liston, Tricia ....  4-4   107 26.8  25-44   .568  14-26   .538   9-11   .818   11  15   26  6.5   5  0   9   8   1   4   73 18.3
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33 Lucas, Maggie......  4-4   123 30.8  27-66   .409  10-25   .400  27-28   .964    3  14   17  4.3   7  0   8  10   0  12   91 22.8
21 Kayla McBride......  4-4   111 27.8  21-53   .396   4-7    .571   9-10   .900    9  20   29  7.3   5  0  17   7   0   4   55 13.8
13 Ogwumike, Chiney...  5-5   174 34.8  53-93   .570   0-4    .000  22-32   .688   26  33   59 11.8  18  2   8  11   8   9  128 25.6
15 Plouffe, Michelle..  3-3   103 34.3  21-49   .429   4-10   .400   9-11   .818    6  30   36 12.0   9  0  12   7   2   6   55 18.3
23 Schimmel, Shoni....  5-5   128 25.6  22-57   .386  10-33   .303   3-3   1.000    2  17   19  3.8  11  0  23  15   0   6   57 11.4
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10 Simmons, Meighan...  4-4   103 25.8  14-48   .292   3-19   .158   9-10   .900    4   6   10  2.5   8  0   5   9   0   3   40 10.0
00 Sims, Odyssey......  6-6   162 27.0  54-104  .519  17-43   .395  39-49   .796    8  18   26  4.3   9  0  23   6   0  12  164 27.3
11 Stallworth, DeNesha  5-5   106 21.2  29-47   .617   1-3    .333  16-20   .800   11  20   31  6.2  12  0  10  14   0   9   75 15.0
25 Alyssa Thomas......  4-4    96 24.0  23-47   .489   1-3    .333   9-11   .818    8  35   43 10.8  11  0  10  13   1   6   56 14.0



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PostPosted: 11/24/13 12:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Thanks for posting these. Numbers don't tell the whole story but they are interesting. Some of these are also derived against a whole slew of less-than-stellar opponents which always skews things, but eventually it all somewhat evens out.


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Jeff Walz showed some love for Natasha howard (FSU) after their game today.

Quote:
"Natasha Howard fouled out and that's a big difference. She is a special player. There's no doubt that she will be a top five pick in the draft in April or May. She has 13 points and 14 boards and nine of them are offensive. She's something else. I wasn't pleased with our mental approach.


So did S.Schimmel...
Quote:
In overtime they did not have Natasha Howard, and it benefited us."


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noleman wrote:
Jeff Walz showed some love for Natasha howard (FSU) after their game today.

Quote:
"Natasha Howard fouled out and that's a big difference. She is a special player. There's no doubt that she will be a top five pick in the draft in April or May. She has 13 points and 14 boards and nine of them are offensive. She's something else. I wasn't pleased with our mental approach.


So did S.Schimmel...
Quote:
In overtime they did not have Natasha Howard, and it benefited us."


I think Walz is just looking for reasons his Top 5 team played so poorly. I'll track her stats, but there's nothing that screams "lottery" to me. Over Dolson or Gray?



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Chiney Ogumike Tulsa Shock
Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun
Alyssa Thomas New York Liberty
Chelsea Gray San Antonio Silver Stars
Odyssey Sims Indiana Fever
Theresa Plaisance Seattle Storm
Kayla McBride Atlanta Dream
Natasha Howard Washington Mystics
Shoni Schimmel Phoenix Mercury
Tricia Liston Chicago Sky
Jordan Hooper Los Angeles Sparks
Haley Peters Minnesota Lynx




Chelsea Gray
Stefanie Dolson
Odyssey Sims
Natasha Howard
Chiney Ogumike
Alyssa Thomas
Shoni Schimmel
Haley Peters
Tricia Liston
Kayla McBride
Jordan Hooper
Theresa Plaisance




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Shades wrote:
noleman wrote:
Jeff Walz showed some love for Natasha howard (FSU) after their game today.

Quote:
"Natasha Howard fouled out and that's a big difference. She is a special player. There's no doubt that she will be a top five pick in the draft in April or May. She has 13 points and 14 boards and nine of them are offensive. She's something else. I wasn't pleased with our mental approach.


So did S.Schimmel...
Quote:
In overtime they did not have Natasha Howard, and it benefited us."


I think Walz is just looking for reasons his Top 5 team played so poorly. I'll track her stats, but there's nothing that screams "lottery" to me. Over Dolson or Gray?


He said it a few days b4 the game as well (I didnt say I agreed, although I do think she goes top10).

If you base her stock just off stats then no. She has to do a better job of staying out of foul trouble to average more than 24mins and cut down on To's. Hopefully FSU has a good season and she can prove herself throughout the year.

Over Dolson-Yes, Gray- Probably Not.


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Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun
Tricia Liston Chicago Sky


So you have Liston going before Hartley? If Hartley is there at #11 I hope Pokey takes her.

And you have Dolson going #2?



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Dolson impresses me more everytime I see her play. She has a little nastiness to her too which really serves post players well in the pros.



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rykhala wrote:
Chiney Ogumike Tulsa Shock
Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun
Alyssa Thomas New York Liberty
Chelsea Gray San Antonio Silver Stars
Odyssey Sims Indiana Fever
Theresa Plaisance Seattle Storm
Kayla McBride Atlanta Dream
Natasha Howard Washington Mystics
Shoni Schimmel Phoenix Mercury
Tricia Liston Chicago Sky
Jordan Hooper Los Angeles Sparks
Haley Peters Minnesota Lynx




Chelsea Gray
Stefanie Dolson
Odyssey Sims
Natasha Howard
Chiney Ogumike
Alyssa Thomas
Shoni Schimmel
Haley Peters
Tricia Liston
Kayla McBride
Jordan Hooper
Theresa Plaisance


If the Mercury draft Shonni Schimmel I quit!



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It is pretty early in the season. I am assuming Connecticut is going to be in need of a center. Right now, I think that Dolson is the best available center. I am a fan of Hartley, but her height worries me a little bit. Also, she looks pretty slight as compared to other WNBA guards. The UCONN vs. Duke game could change everything. Who knows?


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mavcarter wrote:
rykhala wrote:
Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun
Tricia Liston Chicago Sky


So you have Liston going before Hartley? If Hartley is there at #11 I hope Pokey takes her.

And you have Dolson going #2?


I just don't see what they would do with Hartley. Sure, she would be an upgrade to Quigley, but I think she needs pretty consistent minutes to be effective. There is a lot of college season left though. I think they could use Liston's height and shooting more.


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caune wrote:
rykhala wrote:
Chiney Ogumike Tulsa Shock
Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun
Alyssa Thomas New York Liberty
Chelsea Gray San Antonio Silver Stars
Odyssey Sims Indiana Fever
Theresa Plaisance Seattle Storm
Kayla McBride Atlanta Dream
Natasha Howard Washington Mystics
Shoni Schimmel Phoenix Mercury
Tricia Liston Chicago Sky
Jordan Hooper Los Angeles Sparks
Haley Peters Minnesota Lynx




Chelsea Gray
Stefanie Dolson
Odyssey Sims
Natasha Howard
Chiney Ogumike
Alyssa Thomas
Shoni Schimmel
Haley Peters
Tricia Liston
Kayla McBride
Jordan Hooper
Theresa Plaisance


If the Mercury draft Shonni Schimmel I quit!


Any of Sims, Gray (perfect fit?), or McBride would be preferable, but I just don't think that the will still be around.


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rykhala wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
rykhala wrote:
Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun
Tricia Liston Chicago Sky


So you have Liston going before Hartley? If Hartley is there at #11 I hope Pokey takes her.

And you have Dolson going #2?


I just don't see what they would do with Hartley. Sure, she would be an upgrade to Quigley, but I think she needs pretty consistent minutes to be effective. There is a lot of college season left though. I think they could use Liston's height and shooting more.


Liston most likely will be there in the second round, and maybe even third.



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mavcarter wrote:
rykhala wrote:
mavcarter wrote:
rykhala wrote:
Stefanie Dolson Connecticut Sun
Tricia Liston Chicago Sky


So you have Liston going before Hartley? If Hartley is there at #11 I hope Pokey takes her.

And you have Dolson going #2?


I just don't see what they would do with Hartley. Sure, she would be an upgrade to Quigley, but I think she needs pretty consistent minutes to be effective. There is a lot of college season left though. I think they could use Liston's height and shooting more.


Liston most likely will be there in the second round, and maybe even third.


What criteria are you using? I normally wouldn't have thought of tracking her, but I noticed her numbers when pulling up Gray's stats, and they were just too hard to ignore. If she can keep up those field goal percentages, she should make some kind of noise.



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