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I'm kinda wondering who helped these guys with this, because it doesn't seem that bad projected this far in advance. They're up on all the trades, and they actually have Shenise Johnson as a lottery pick. Standish going to Seattle is a clever pick. It's kinda silly to project Minnesota winning the #1 pick again with their own pick...with the Mystic's, maybe. 
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| Posted: 04/24/11 10:12 pm ::: Re: 2012 WNBA Mock Draft |
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| Posted: 04/24/11 10:14 pm ::: |
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| I've never understood the point in doing a mock draft a year in advance considering the current season hasn't even started. The odds of that draft order happening is next to zero.
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| Posted: 04/24/11 10:31 pm ::: |
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| I've never understood the point in doing a mock draft a year in advance considering the current season hasn't even started. The odds of that draft order happening is next to zero. |
I suppose they always want a mock up since that's all they do on that site. |
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| Posted: 04/24/11 11:38 pm ::: |
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| Looks like Tennessee is coming out strong next year, I think Tiff Hayes is a top five pick though.
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| Posted: 04/24/11 11:41 pm ::: |
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| Looks like Tennessee is coming out strong next year, I think Tiff Hayes is a top five pick though. |
Ehh.. idk
Edit: This is a very weak draft though
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| Posted: 04/24/11 11:47 pm ::: |
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| Looks like Tennessee is coming out strong next year, I think Tiff Hayes is a top five pick though. |
Ehh.. idk
Edit: This is a very weak draft though |
You don't? [/b]
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| Posted: 04/24/11 11:51 pm ::: |
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| Looks like Tennessee is coming out strong next year, I think Tiff Hayes is a top five pick though. |
Ehh.. idk
Edit: This is a very weak draft though |
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A LOT could change in a year but every time I watch her I am not too impressed. Could just be me though
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| Posted: 04/25/11 10:27 am ::: |
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| After the top three there is a huge drop off... Who knows, maybe someone will pull a Pohlen on us and come out of the blue. But agreed, it's a very weak draft.
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| Posted: 04/25/11 11:43 am ::: |
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| I like Ogwumike and Shenise Johnson. That's pretty much it.
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| Posted: 04/25/11 12:55 pm ::: |
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| I am a great fan of Shenise Johnson. She plays like a female version of Jason Kidd.
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Wow, NO love for Jasmine Dixon? She of the .529 shooting percentage (4th highest in conference this season), 3.4 orpg (4th in conference), 2.4 spg (2nd in conference), and the honorable mention All America designation as a Junior?
I know she's undersized for her projected position, but so was Charles Barkley, and their games are basically identical.
I'm not calling her a lottery pick, but Jasmine Dixon definitely deserves a look in next year's WNBA draft.
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Dixon is an interesting player -- but it's hard to see her game translating to the WNBA. She was called a 6-2 post player all through high school, when she's actually 5-11, and she's never developed a perimeter game.
Maybe she's the next Barkley, but there was only one Sir Charles on the men's side.
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| Sorry but methinks Dixon has way less chance to make it at the next level than say a Victoria Dunlap, who has a somewhat similar problem except she is slightly taller, can jump higher, and has actually started to develop a mid-range/outside game. Dixon reminds me somewhat of Alyssa Clark - and I really like Clark BUT....well, she'll likely do fine in Israel.
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A lot of paper gangsters........
Tyra White may have potential, given another year of play.
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| Sorry but methinks Dixon has way less chance to make it at the next level than say a Victoria Dunlap, who has a somewhat similar problem except she is slightly taller, can jump higher, and has actually started to develop a mid-range/outside game. Dixon reminds me somewhat of Alyssa Clark - and I really like Clark BUT....well, she'll likely do fine in Israel. |
Okay, well, when Dixon is tearing it up in the WNBA in 2012, you guys are gonna be all, "We should've listened to Meighan", and I'll be all, "No, c'mon guys, it's okay," and you'll be like, "No, you were right about Dixon, and no one believed you," and I'll be like, "Hey, c'mon, I just got lucky I guess," and you'll all be like, "No, you were a visionary, and we were so blind," and it'll just go on and on like that and it'll be a little embarrassing, truthfully. I'm just trying to save you all that debasement now, but whatever, you guys do whatever it is you have to do.
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Okay, well, when Dixon is tearing it up in the WNBA in 2012, you guys are gonna be all, "We should've listened to Meighan", and I'll be all, "No, c'mon guys, it's okay," and you'll be like, "No, you were right about Dixon, and no one believed you," and I'll be like, "Hey, c'mon, I just got lucky I guess," and you'll all be like, "No, you were a visionary, and we were so blind," and it'll just go on and on like that and it'll be a little embarrassing, truthfully. I'm just trying to save you all that debasement now, but whatever, you guys do whatever it is you have to do.
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Was it you who compared her to Charles Barkley? The last player I seen compared to Charles Barkley was Danielle Adams, and we all know how well she did in the draft, even though she won a national championship and MVP. |
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Okay, well, when Dixon is tearing it up in the WNBA in 2012, you guys are gonna be all, "We should've listened to Meighan", and I'll be all, "No, c'mon guys, it's okay," and you'll be like, "No, you were right about Dixon, and no one believed you," and I'll be like, "Hey, c'mon, I just got lucky I guess," and you'll all be like, "No, you were a visionary, and we were so blind," and it'll just go on and on like that and it'll be a little embarrassing, truthfully. I'm just trying to save you all that debasement now, but whatever, you guys do whatever it is you have to do.
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Was it you who compared her to Charles Barkley? The last player I seen compared to Charles Barkley was Danielle Adams, and we all know how well she did in the draft, even though she won a national championship and MVP. |
Yes, I compared her to Charles Barkley. And, yes, Danielle Adams received that same comparison, and she was *drafted*, just as Jasmine Dixon oughtta be next year, which was really my only point.
But since Adams got mentioned in this conversation: though Jasmine Dixon is probably a bit shorter than Danielle Adams, Jasmine Dixon is also faster, more agile and more athletic than Danielle Adams, has a significantly higher shooting percentage than Adams, is an exactly-equivalent rebounder compared to Adams (as measured in rate stats) and is a better defender than Adams. Hence the awkward conversation we're all gonna have next year after Jasmine Dixon gets drafted in the 2012 WNBA draft and then everything I predicted upthread gets said by you guys and by me.
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| If Dixon doesn't develop some perimeter skills, the only place she'll be tearing it up is in Israel, and that's not even a given. Her chances are slightly better than Alysha's because of her athleticism.
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| Sorry but methinks Dixon has way less chance to make it at the next level than say a Victoria Dunlap, who has a somewhat similar problem except she is slightly taller, can jump higher, and has actually started to develop a mid-range/outside game. Dixon reminds me somewhat of Alyssa Clark - and I really like Clark BUT....well, she'll likely do fine in Israel. |
Okay, well, when Dixon is tearing it up in the WNBA in 2012, you guys are gonna be all, "We should've listened to Meighan", and I'll be all, "No, c'mon guys, it's okay," and you'll be like, "No, you were right about Dixon, and no one believed you," and I'll be like, "Hey, c'mon, I just got lucky I guess," and you'll all be like, "No, you were a visionary, and we were so blind," and it'll just go on and on like that and it'll be a little embarrassing, truthfully. I'm just trying to save you all that debasement now, but whatever, you guys do whatever it is you have to do.
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 I'm all, like, "Meighan might be wrong about Dixon but he's funny as Hell so I'll let it pass."
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| I like Ogwumike and Shenise Johnson. That's pretty much it. |
Stricklen and Glory interest me in that I just don't buy any of the Lady Vols as what we see right now - and these two have a lot of potential. There's something just confusing over there right now, and I think that there is enough talent in these two that she resound when they have alternative opportunities.
Peters intrigues me as this is really her first full season in a while and if she can keep a nice upward trajectory, she may be able to make the jump. She has the athleticism, she just needs to harness the consistency. She's just about WNBA ready defensively, honestly - a very smart defender who I think will get better when she has 6 fouls to play with and has another season of learning. She really has been a player who has made great strides, so I until she appears to hit a wall, I won't count her out.
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Dixon most likely will get drafted, but it's a big jump from getting drafted to getting a roster spot, and a bigger jump still to getting significant minutes.
I've watched her play since high school, and there's no doubt Dixon is a great player. Had she been developed as a perimeter player (instead of coaches lying about her height and putting her on the block in order to win as many meaningless AAU games as possible), I think she would have a good chance to find a home.
But the transition from four to three is the toughest in basketball, and that's what Dixon will have to do, in the toughest league in the world. I think she will probably be able to defend on the perimeter if she works at it, but I just don't know if she'll be able to score. If she can get to the rim against the quicker defenders, she'll now run into post defenders who are five or six inches taller instead of slower, smaller college posts.
And her size at the four is an issue defensively -- just think about her guarding Candace Parker, or Michelle Snow, or even Janel McCarville. She's quick and strong, but they can just face up and shoot over her.
As for the Tennessee players, like all Tennessee players, they aren't significantly better now than when they arrived. Pat Summitt has many virtues as a coach, but developing talent for the next level is not one of them.
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| As for the Tennessee players, like all Tennessee players, they aren't significantly better now than when they arrived. Pat Summitt has many virtues as a coach, but developing talent for the next level is not one of them. |
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Thanks for breaking it down, Clay.
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Okay, well, when Dixon is tearing it up in the WNBA in 2012, you guys are gonna be all, "We should've listened to Meighan", and I'll be all, "No, c'mon guys, it's okay," and you'll be like, "No, you were right about Dixon, and no one believed you," and I'll be like, "Hey, c'mon, I just got lucky I guess," and you'll all be like, "No, you were a visionary, and we were so blind," and it'll just go on and on like that and it'll be a little embarrassing, truthfully. I'm just trying to save you all that debasement now, but whatever, you guys do whatever it is you have to do.
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Was it you who compared her to Charles Barkley? The last player I seen compared to Charles Barkley was Danielle Adams, and we all know how well she did in the draft, even though she won a national championship and MVP. |
Yes, I compared her to Charles Barkley. And, yes, Danielle Adams received that same comparison, and she was *drafted*, just as Jasmine Dixon oughtta be next year, which was really my only point.
But since Adams got mentioned in this conversation: though Jasmine Dixon is probably a bit shorter than Danielle Adams, Jasmine Dixon is also faster, more agile and more athletic than Danielle Adams, has a significantly higher shooting percentage than Adams, is an exactly-equivalent rebounder compared to Adams (as measured in rate stats) and is a better defender than Adams. Hence the awkward conversation we're all gonna have next year after Jasmine Dixon gets drafted in the 2012 WNBA draft and then everything I predicted upthread gets said by you guys and by me.
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If you take out Danielle Adam's 3 point shots, she has a higher 2-point shot percentage than Jasmine Dixon.
Jasmine Dixon has a lot of work to do, but it was mentioned during a UCLA game this year that she was working with Nikki Caldwell on her perimeter game and outside shooting, so you may see a more expanded game from her next season, but with a new coaching staff, how she is utilized may change significantly. Also the new coach may not be working with Jasmine Dixon as much as Nikki and her staff were to expand her game. So a lot of what happens next season and how her game plays out may be effected by the coaching change.
I think she will get drafted, but if she proves she can play in the perimeter consistently during the season and possibly has an effective 3 point shot her stock will rise, but if not she will probably be a late 2nd round pick, early 3rd round pick, based on how she has played the past few seasons. But than again WNBA GM's make surprise picks all the time, so she could very well go undrafted or in the 1st round depending on there thoughts of her.
Edited: I also think if she improved her free throw shooting, it will make a difference, not a big difference, but teams can be turned off by her 55%, where as if she were a 75%+ they might be more willing to take a chance on her. Not that it will be the deciding factor, but I think it will be something factored into the decision._________________ DeLisha Milton-Jones is my favorite player 
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| If you take out Danielle Adam's 3 point shots, she has a higher 2-point shot percentage than Jasmine Dixon. |
Good point, and that's true, but by a very slim hair: .533 for Adams, vs. .529 for Dixon.
Good additional points, too, though I do think that Jasmine's mid-range shot is a bit better than we've been crediting it in this thread thusfar.
Unfortunately there's no way for me to verify/demonstrate this statistically, but I saw several instances this season where Jasmine had the ball above the free throw line and her defender sloughed off of her... in those instances Jasmine quite often just took that open look and put it down pretty consistently. Granted, that's not the same as creating jumpers for oneself, but Jasmine *can* hit open mid-range looks, and *did* this past season, and I hope that she'll do even more of it in her senior season.
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| I've never understood the point in doing a mock draft a year in advance considering the current season hasn't even started. The odds of that draft order happening is next to zero. |
purely to pass some quiet time here ... has anyone compared previous predictions to actual outcomes ? - (only the ones that were guesstimated 1 year in advance)
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| The 2012 draft is a huge bust already; some of the most undeveloped college players of tha last 10-15 years!
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| If you take out Danielle Adam's 3 point shots, she has a higher 2-point shot percentage than Jasmine Dixon. |
Good point, and that's true, but by a very slim hair: .533 for Adams, vs. .529 for Dixon.
Good additional points, too, though I do think that Jasmine's mid-range shot is a bit better than we've been crediting it in this thread thusfar.
Unfortunately there's no way for me to verify/demonstrate this statistically, but I saw several instances this season where Jasmine had the ball above the free throw line and her defender sloughed off of her... in those instances Jasmine quite often just took that open look and put it down pretty consistently. Granted, that's not the same as creating jumpers for oneself, but Jasmine *can* hit open mid-range looks, and *did* this past season, and I hope that she'll do even more of it in her senior season.
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I like Jasmine's game and her name (I'm from Dixon, Cali )  . I've seen her once, this past season when the Bruins took the W from my Aztecs in the 2nd half. I think she has a great nose for the ball, whether getting steals or rebounds. She outworked both PJ and JB who have a little size on her, and I like her athleticism. But since she is around 6' tall she needs to develop an outside shot and really needs to work on her free throws! She was 1-6 in that game! I enjoy her game though and truly hope she is able to expand her range and make it in the pros.
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No one's talking about (Shenise) Johnson as a top five WNBA draft pick - yet - but I suspect that if both she and Miami dominate the ACC in 2011-12 the talk will start to pick up.
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Kelly Cain is retiring from basketball due to nagging injuries although she would've been solid in the wnba imo
The Tennessee Players are actually pretty solid players they just havent clicked for some reason
-Alyssia Brewer will be very solid in the post at 6'4
-Glory Johnson will be great if she can just harness that energy she does so much that she has no choice but to be great
-Alicia Manning is the dark horse of this draft she will become a solid 3 once she consistently can hit the 3 ball but her defense is top notch and she's very good at finishing around the basket as well as mid range jumpers
-Shekinna Stricklen is gonna be awesome in the W she'll play the 3 hopefully but she can also play the 4(i dont buy the every position thing)
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-Nneka will be awesome considering how good she is now i can only imagine how good she'll be by her 2nd year in the league
-Deveruax Peters is interesting she's alot like Glory except she's more wild and that's kinda sad
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In case you want to compare the Mock Draft to the Wade preseason watch list here are the seniors on the Wade list:
LaSondra Barrett: Louisiana State F Sr.
Cierra Bravard: Florida State F Sr.
Jasmine Dixon: UCLA F Sr.
Keisha Hampton: DePaul F Sr.
Tiffany Hayes: Connecticut G Sr.
Glory Johnson: Tennessee F Sr.
Shenise Johnson: Miami G Sr.
Natalie Novosel: Notre Dame G Sr.
Nneka Ogwumike: Stanford F Sr.
Devereaux Peters: Notre Dame F Sr.
Monique Reid: Louisville F Sr.
Shekinna Stricklen: Tennessee G Sr.
Tyra White: Texas A&M G Sr.
Riquna Williams : Miami G Sr.
Source: NCAA, Preseason Wade Watch list
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-women/2011-08-23/preseason-wade-watch-list-announced
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| If the college group is as poor as many people have been suggesting, you might see Brazilian Damiris Dantas slide into the first-round conversation as well. Especially if she has a strong season with Celta in Spain. |
Are there any other potential international player who could move into the first round or early second round? |
None that come to mind for me right now, but I wouldn't consider myself an expert. Part of the reason Damiris might go higher than your average non-American is that Brazilians have a decent record of showing up to play in the WNBA. The same player from Random European Country X wouldn't go nearly as high as she might. |
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One has to wonder how the Connecticut Sun are going to try to acquire Tiffany Hayes if another team drafts her.
I like Hayes enough at Uconn but I don't want her wearing a Sun jersey and giving the boot to one of the players they have now to accommodate her.
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Kelly Cain is retiring from basketball due to nagging injuries although she would've been solid in the wnba imo
The Tennessee Players are actually pretty solid players they just havent clicked for some reason
-Alyssia Brewer will be very solid in the post at 6'4
-Glory Johnson will be great if she can just harness that energy she does so much that she has no choice but to be great
-Alicia Manning is the dark horse of this draft she will become a solid 3 once she consistently can hit the 3 ball but her defense is top notch and she's very good at finishing around the basket as well as mid range jumpers
-Shekinna Stricklen is gonna be awesome in the W she'll play the 3 hopefully but she can also play the 4(i dont buy the every position thing)
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-Nneka will be awesome considering how good she is now i can only imagine how good she'll be by her 2nd year in the league
-Deveruax Peters is interesting she's alot like Glory except she's more wild and that's kinda sad |
Most of the Lady Vols lately haven't been able to stick in the WNBA. Parker being the only one in the past, well it's been a long time. I don't see Glory Johnson, Shekinna Stricklen, Alicia Manning, or Alyssia Brewer making any impact in the WNBA. Manning and Brewer will fade into obscurity like Spencer, Hornbuckle, Anosike, Bjorklund, Bobbitt. The last few years, Summitt just hasn't been recruiting well, and hasn't been the coach she once was in developing her players to play the pro's. Actually, she's never been one to develop her players to get ready for the pro's. That's Geno's job. Aside from Parker, Summitt has brought in garbage the last several years, and she hasn't been able to do anything with the players she has now. Maybe her dementia has been clouding things for the past few years now and she just didn't realize what it was.
In any event, Summitt had a great run in Tennessee, but the last several years has been crap, much like her recruiting and coaching. I think after her final year coaching this year, the Vols program will welcome a breath of fresh air. Out with Summitt's archaic style of coaching, and in with fresh new ideas. The reasoning for the Lady Vols sucking the past few years isn't all due to recruiting or losing Parker, it's also due to Summitt's coaching style is becoming too old school, and other teams, with younger coaches and new coaching styles are moving past her. She still coaches like it's 1985.
I respect Summitt for all she did for Women's basketball, but it's time to go, and while It's sad that she's sick and has to leave because of that, I think this will actually be good for the Lady Vols program. Out with the old tired style that hasn't been going anywhere the last few years, and in with new and fresh and modern ideas.
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readyAIMfire53
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| whitedudeluvswnba wrote: |
| babycoop09 wrote: |
Kelly Cain is retiring from basketball due to nagging injuries although she would've been solid in the wnba imo
The Tennessee Players are actually pretty solid players they just havent clicked for some reason
-Alyssia Brewer will be very solid in the post at 6'4
-Glory Johnson will be great if she can just harness that energy she does so much that she has no choice but to be great
-Alicia Manning is the dark horse of this draft she will become a solid 3 once she consistently can hit the 3 ball but her defense is top notch and she's very good at finishing around the basket as well as mid range jumpers
-Shekinna Stricklen is gonna be awesome in the W she'll play the 3 hopefully but she can also play the 4(i dont buy the every position thing)
Others:
-Nneka will be awesome considering how good she is now i can only imagine how good she'll be by her 2nd year in the league
-Deveruax Peters is interesting she's alot like Glory except she's more wild and that's kinda sad |
Most of the Lady Vols lately haven't been able to stick in the WNBA. Parker being the only one in the past, well it's been a long time. I don't see Glory Johnson, Shekinna Stricklen, Alicia Manning, or Alyssia Brewer making any impact in the WNBA. Manning and Brewer will fade into obscurity like Spencer, Hornbuckle, Anosike, Bjorklund, Bobbitt. The last few years, Summitt just hasn't been recruiting well, and hasn't been the coach she once was in developing her players to play the pro's. Actually, she's never been one to develop her players to get ready for the pro's. That's Geno's job. Aside from Parker, Summitt has brought in garbage the last several years, and she hasn't been able to do anything with the players she has now. Maybe her dementia has been clouding things for the past few years now and she just didn't realize what it was.
In any event, Summitt had a great run in Tennessee, but the last several years has been crap, much like her recruiting and coaching. I think after her final year coaching this year, the Vols program will welcome a breath of fresh air. Out with Summitt's archaic style of coaching, and in with fresh new ideas. The reasoning for the Lady Vols sucking the past few years isn't all due to recruiting or losing Parker, it's also due to Summitt's coaching style is becoming too old school, and other teams, with younger coaches and new coaching styles are moving past her. She still coaches like it's 1985.
I respect Summitt for all she did for Women's basketball, but it's time to go, and while It's sad that she's sick and has to leave because of that, I think this will actually be good for the Lady Vols program. Out with the old tired style that hasn't been going anywhere the last few years, and in with new and fresh and modern ideas. |
OK, now we've seen some good ol' Husky hate on Tennessee and Pat Summitt. Shame on you.
My take is that the 2 recruiting classes - last year's seniors and the rising seniors were such a bust in so many ways (work ethic, chemistry, leadership qualities) that it made the whole program look worse than it is. Funny how that coincided with Micki DeMoss' temporary departure from the staff. Last year's frosh plus the incoming class will rekindle the Lady Vol flame that Summitt, et al, will find a way to carry into the future.
I'm not expecting much out of Tennessee's current crop of seniors, except for Stricklin, who will likely be a lottery pick.
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JohnyK
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| Posted: 09/05/11 11:15 am ::: |
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| If the college group is as poor as many people have been suggesting, you might see Brazilian Damiris Dantas slide into the first-round conversation as well. Especially if she has a strong season with Celta in Spain. |
Are there any other potential international player who could move into the first round or early second round? |
Maybe Nika Baric - a young Slovenian point guard. Haven't seen her play but have heard about the hype over here in Europe. Slovenia doesn't really have a NT worth anything so she might not have NT commitments. But then judging by history teams draft post players from Europe and sign guards when they develop in to something.
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Richyyy
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| Posted: 09/05/11 11:18 am ::: |
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| If the college group is as poor as many people have been suggesting, you might see Brazilian Damiris Dantas slide into the first-round conversation as well. Especially if she has a strong season with Celta in Spain. |
Are there any other potential international player who could move into the first round or early second round? |
Maybe Nika Baric - a young Slovenian point guard. Haven't seen her play but have heard about the hype over here in Europe. Slovenia doesn't really have a NT worth anything so she might not have NT commitments. But then judging by history teams draft post players from Europe and sign guards when they develop in to something. |
Unless you're Penny Toler. Then you wait for them to become ineligible, and draft them anyway. |
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| Posted: 09/05/11 11:56 am ::: |
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oh low blow Richyyy!
For what it's worth I copy my thoughts from the other thread - but it is really too early to do this. I too was interested to know if there were any promising overseas players. Anybody from Australia?
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Who do you see as the top 3? |
Right now: Nneka, Shenise Johnson, and Shekinna Stricklen....with a big drop off to someone like Devereaux Peters. But someone else might rise to the top in their senior season like Vandersloot did so it's really too early. But guessing is still fun |
Ahhhh .... thanks. I keep forgetting most people have a lot more faith in Stricklen than I do. |
Not sure it's that but rather the draft just looks very, very weak especially compared to this year's. I mean:
Tiffany Hayes, Monique Reid, Drey Mingo, Sidney Carter, Cierra Bravard, Sam Prahalis, Lynetta Kizer, Glory Johnson, Riquana Williams, Tyra White, April Sykes…
Off the top of my head. Sure I'm missing some but not exactly inspiring I would say.
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| Posted: 09/05/11 12:14 pm ::: |
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| Why is Minny expected to have the overall #1 pick?
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| Posted: 09/05/11 12:17 pm ::: |
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| The ping pong balls should give #1 to Tulsa and #2 (via Washington) to Minny....but Minny has been pretty lucky with those ping pong balls so who knows? And it looks like Chicago and LA will vie for #3.
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