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newkid
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 1184 Location: Austin, TX
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stever
Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 6918 Location: https://womensbasketballdaily.net
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myrtle
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 32335
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Posted: 11/01/10 8:47 pm ::: |
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I fail to see why this should even be a news item. Who cares if someone wants to be called he, she, or it? Obviously if he underwent surgery or hormones to actually make physical changes that would be a different story.
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Queenie
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 18031 Location: Queens
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Posted: 11/01/10 9:14 pm ::: |
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myrtle wrote: |
I fail to see why this should even be a news item. Who cares if someone wants to be called he, she, or it? Obviously if he underwent surgery or hormones to actually make physical changes that would be a different story. |
He can't undergo hormone treatments, or he'll get nailed for doping. Which says more about the NCAA. He's undergoing SRS before senior season, which might complicate the technicalities. (And also, ow, even if he's doing it the summer before.)
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FS02
Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 9699 Location: Husky (west coast) Country
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Posted: 11/01/10 9:25 pm ::: |
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Anything this unique that happens is news if the press gets wind of it.
My initial response is they're handling it the right way, you shouldn't disqualify someone unless they've done something that actually gives them a competitive advantage (... in other words, hormones).
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Happycappie25
Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 4174 Location: QUEENS!!!!
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Posted: 11/02/10 6:17 am ::: |
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The following is NOT directed at Kye Allums, Mike Bozeman, the GWU Colonials Women's Basketball Team or George Washington University. It is a statement of OBSERVATION that is directed solely at the NCAA about a consistent ruling it has made in the past on a different issue that this issue does bring up an obvious and significant question about. I support Kye's decision and agree that at least this season and as long as hormones have not been used (For a host of banned substance and PED reasons, not for gender identity reasons)
NCAA: You're allowing a transgendered man on a women's basketball team yet you refuse a Muslim woman to wear a head scarf designed for sport on the court. What the hell.
If you are going to allow someone to express transgendered identity (which I'm more than fine with.) I REALLY now don't see the issue with someone showing their faith in a way that was deemed compliant by other sanctioning bodies. I know this may seem apples and oranges to some but It is a hypocrisy by the NCAA...and one that can't be ignored.
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RedEqualsLuck
Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 4781
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Posted: 11/02/10 12:10 pm ::: |
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NCAA: You're allowing a transgendered man on a women's basketball team yet you refuse a Muslim woman to wear a head scarf designed for sport on the court. What the hell.
They did? I thought that was FIBA. Does this mean Bilqis is NOT playing?
http://www.gotigersgo.com/sports/w-baskbl/mtt/abdulqaadir_bilqis00.html
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Happycappie25
Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 4174 Location: QUEENS!!!!
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Posted: 11/02/10 5:41 pm ::: |
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If they reversed field...good...i was referring to a USF player about 2006...did not know others were allowed to play...and yes Fiba still needs to get its shit together about this...without question.
_________________ "Leave it to the NCAA women's basketball committee to turn a glass slipper into glass ceiling" Graham Hays
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Youth Coach
Joined: 23 Mar 2008 Posts: 4760
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Posted: 11/03/10 6:00 am ::: |
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The thing I find amusing is that the articles contain quotes of people involved expressing support.
While I generally believe the quotes are true, if they weren't, what else are they supposed to say?
If they said they didn't support it, it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen. |
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ultrasonic
Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 43
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Posted: 11/04/10 5:14 pm ::: |
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I'm curious to see how commentators will refer to Allums during televised broadcasts, ie. using gender-appropriate pronouns. If they demonstrate anything less than perfect respect, I figure I'll have just cause for a letter of complaint.
This IS a big deal in terms of raising awareness for genderqueer/trans-people, as well as their families/communities.
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CalwbbFan
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PUmatty
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