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braveniler58
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| No. Atlanta doesn't deserve special treatment. Same rule applies to everyone.
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| Posted: 10/01/07 7:35 pm ::: |
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| Thrillrider08 wrote: |
Not to rain on the parade but until if and when we get a team in Atlanta isn't this whole discussion moot?  |
Basically, yes. As much as I'd love to have a team in the South again, this year would be a BAD year to do it. What if we have to skip a month like we did in '04? That would not be good for a new team that's trying to get as many fans as it can. |
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BobScoutingReport
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| Posted: 10/01/07 9:43 pm ::: WNBA in Atlanta - Update! |
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| My Atlanta-based source briefly checked in again today & has now refused to discuss the matter further until after the announcement (in about two weeks). However, two items were mentioned of importance in the message. First the Gwinett Area is out for 2008. No reason was given so I couldn't tell you where the team would play. Second came the bomb. IT IS NOT AN EXPANSION TEAM COMING TO ATLANTA, BUT AN EXISTING FRANCHISE! This took me by surprise since Houston's owner has been making noises like he was staying for another year. Anybody else on the transfer block?
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| Posted: 10/01/07 9:50 pm ::: |
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An existing franchise? That's weird. I honestly think Houston will stay. Who else would it be? Are you sure s/he doesn't think the Storm is leaving Seattle?
Anyway. I guess I'll have to wait. I'm having a hard time stomaching a relocation though, mostly because I can't think of a team._________________ JENNASMITH13.com
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| Posted: 10/01/07 9:58 pm ::: |
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| Wow, I hope your source is not accurate on that one. Sure some franchises are struggling, but would they be better off in Atlanta as a startup? I doubt it.
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| Posted: 10/01/07 10:12 pm ::: |
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Much as I'm not sure an expansion franchise in Atlanta is a great idea, I really hope Bob's source is wrong as well. They'd be much better off adding a crappy expansion team, probably with an expansion fee of around $10m, than selling a team for much less than that and moving it into a (likely) poor market.
Last year the teams that got sold were ones where the NBA franchises that owned them had gotten tired of running them. Following that pattern, it'd be Detroit, Indiana, Minnesota, New York, Phoenix, Sacramento or San Antonio. Can't see Detroit selling, NY aren't gonna dump the Libs right now (they're in the middle of a sexual discrimintation suit for crying out loud), SA just started to show signs of progress, Phoenix just won a championship. That leaves Indiana, Minnesota or Sacramento if it's an NBA owner pulling out. The most obvious option if it's one of the independant owners is still Houston.
Yeah, screw this. I don't want to see another group of fans miserable about losing their team. Hope your source is wrong Bob.
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| Posted: 10/01/07 10:56 pm ::: Atlanta |
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This person called me tonight leaving a message with those points I mentioned. All I can say is this individual could be wrong but has never called me to purposefully lead me astray. This source is a solid citizen.
Right now I would guess Houston. It makes sense as they have a lottery pick, be they not the favorite to get Parker.
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| Posted: 10/01/07 11:16 pm ::: |
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Here is why I'm confused...
The ever-so-informational Womens Hoops blog has posted that the Atlanta buyer is insisting the WNBA to give them a lottery pick. If it was Houston, they'd already have a pick. I doubt a playoff team would be moved.
I guess we'll have to wait and see..._________________ JENNASMITH13.com
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| Posted: 10/01/07 11:18 pm ::: |
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| Wow, that'd be surprising if Houston actually did relocate. Hope they dont, or any team at all.
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| Posted: 10/01/07 11:27 pm ::: |
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| Wow, that'd be surprising if Houston actually did relocate. Hope they dont, or any team at all. |
If a storied franchise like Houston can end up forced to seek relocation, what hope is there for any team in the league. I mean FOUR championships!! What does it take to get a little loyalty? But then again, we do live in a "What have you done for me lately?" society. I hope its not. I hope all the negative speculation is off and that the reality is better than the positive rumors.
Okay so I get overy optimistic sometimes . . . |
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| Posted: 10/02/07 1:59 am ::: Re: WNBA in Atlanta - Update! |
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| My Atlanta-based source briefly checked in again today & has now refused to discuss the matter further until after the announcement (in about two weeks). However, two items were mentioned of importance in the message. First the Gwinett Area is out for 2008. No reason was given so I couldn't tell you where the team would play. |
It has already been reported that an Atlanta franchise will play the majority of its games at Phillips Arena.
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| Posted: 10/02/07 2:44 am ::: |
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| An existing franchise? That's weird. I honestly think Houston will stay. Who else would it be? |
Any chance that Sheila Johnson and Lincoln Holdings would relocate the Mytics for a sweeter tenant's deal with the Hawks?
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| Posted: 10/02/07 8:22 am ::: |
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I wouldn't be surprised if Houston were moving-- and I wouldn't start generalizing or worrying about the rest of the league, should Houston move. You need to have a certain amount of money to run a team and absorb the likely losses, year after year. There have been rumors circulating since he bought the team that Hilton Koch, whatever his good intentions, doesn't actually have that amount of money. If that's the case the league needs to find an owner-- in whatever market-- who does.
I'm not sure how I think the league should respond to purported demands that the league monkey with the draft lottery. I am sure it's a crappy demand for new owners to make, and a lousy precedent to set-- but contracting to twelve teams would be a pretty lousy precedent too: if there's exactly one entity that wants a WNBA team, doesn't own one, and can afford to run one, that entity's in a pretty good bargaining position. Especially with the CBA coming up.
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| Posted: 10/02/07 4:30 pm ::: |
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Much as I'm not sure an expansion franchise in Atlanta is a great idea, I really hope Bob's source is wrong as well. They'd be much better off adding a crappy expansion team, probably with an expansion fee of around $10m, than selling a team for much less than that and moving it into a (likely) poor market.
Last year the teams that got sold were ones where the NBA franchises that owned them had gotten tired of running them. Following that pattern, it'd be Detroit, Indiana, Minnesota, New York, Phoenix, Sacramento or San Antonio. Can't see Detroit selling, NY aren't gonna dump the Libs right now (they're in the middle of a sexual discrimintation suit for crying out loud), SA just started to show signs of progress, Phoenix just won a championship. That leaves Indiana, Minnesota or Sacramento if it's an NBA owner pulling out. The most obvious option if it's one of the independant owners is still Houston.
Yeah, screw this. I don't want to see another group of fans miserable about losing their team. Hope your source is wrong Bob. |
I'm getting bombarded with stuff from SASS on season tickets tell your friends ect. type stuff. So it ain't them. Besides from all I've read and continue to read the Spurs Management seems to have recommited themselves to all three of its teams...Spurs (obvious) Silver Stars and the Rampage hocky team with all the marketing they are putting out.
What's the marketing like in the other cites from the front office? They wouldn'tbe pushing if there was a possibility to move?
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| Posted: 10/03/07 9:03 am ::: |
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We might be getting ahead of ourselves as the Comets are hardly the only franchise on the ropes, but if it's indeed them, well, then it's a crying shame. Why sell it to an investor that didn't have the cash to run the franchise in the first place. If they did that only avoid a dispersal draft then I'd be really pissed off if I were a Comet fan, which is so far from the truth, you can only imagine how pissed off a real Comet fan would be. 
But anyway, I don't want to speculate, I'm already down on Donna O as it is, I don't need more reasons to make up my mind. |
The Stars and the Fever are fine. (The Fever have just hired at least one new person whose job will involve selling tickets.)
If I had the choice of (a) selling the Comets to someone who wanted to own them, but couldn't afford to absorb the losses in the long term, or (b) allowing the team to fold right away, I'd pick (a), with the goal of turning the team over to some other owner a year or three down the road. Wouldn't you pick (a) too? There is no (c). There may not be a (c) even now.
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| Posted: 10/13/07 5:28 pm ::: |
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Atlanta?
Oh Please, the South is a grave yard for WNBA franchises.
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| Posted: 10/13/07 6:05 pm ::: |
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Houston might make sense in another way too. You'd think players such as Tina would know what's been going on for a while. Maybe that's part of her reasoning for possibly not returning.
I hope it's not Houston, because of the History. But I don't necessarily think it's horrible for the league. As a team didn't fold, and it's natural for fan attendance to decrease when they expect to win, and they don't. (Heck, it's happening a bit at Uconn) I am NOT saying it is a good thing, but it's not a sign that the WNBA is crashing and burning.
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(granted I was in college at the time, but my Mom and sis were still here and had no idea) But I will be the first one in line to pay my deposit if it happens! 