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PostPosted: 09/01/06 11:53 am    ::: ESPN Classic Top Coaches of All Time Reply Reply with quote
Vote for Pat Summit as one of the Top Coaches of all time. She is currently leading the polls by quite a margin. She is the only female coach on the poll.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/ballot?event_id=2397[/url]
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PostPosted: 09/03/06 1:01 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
No love for Anson Dorrance? Wow. Confused



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PostPosted: 09/03/06 11:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Pat is winning in a landslide. Shocked

And this is a bunch of guys (mostly) on espn.com who are voting. But you can vote for 5. So I think the reason she has such a large lead (and the reason she's in the lead at all) is because she's probably being included in just about everybody's top 5, even if they don't know what order those top 5 should be in.
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PostPosted: 09/04/06 3:23 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
orangeblood wrote:
Pat is winning in a landslide. Shocked

And this is a bunch of guys (mostly) on espn.com who are voting. But you can vote for 5. So I think the reason she has such a large lead (and the reason she's in the lead at all) is because she's probably being included in just about everybody's top 5, even if they don't know what order those top 5 should be in.


How do you know it is a bunch of guys voting? I believe the thread has been linked enough times on Tennessee boards, including the women's hoops board. Morevoer, how can you tell the demographics of poll voters from the poll itself?
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PostPosted: 09/04/06 12:56 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Pat is cleaning up!



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PostPosted: 09/04/06 1:36 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
When I looked at it there had been over 16,000 votes. I doubt those 16,000 votes came from the Tennessee women's board. And if the demographics of visitors to espn.com is no longer predominantly male then I definitley missed the shift!
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PostPosted: 09/04/06 2:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
orangeblood wrote:
When I looked at it there had been over 16,000 votes. I doubt those 16,000 votes came from the Tennessee women's board. And if the demographics of visitors to espn.com is no longer predominantly male then I definitley missed the shift!


You assume all visitors to ESPN.com are then voting in the poll, rather than it being skewed by women's basketball fans wanting to have female representation among the top coaches.
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PostPosted: 09/04/06 4:02 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I don't believe that, but I would love to. If women's basketball has that much more representation in these polls than ALL of the other sports included then that's just wonderful. Or if it's purely a result of Tennessee fans voting then they don't have the greatest coach ever; they have the greatest fans ever, lol.
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PostPosted: 09/04/06 4:09 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Either way, Pat gets a LOT of respect from men. Just the other night, a prof of mine (a former college player) made the "if Pat moved up and coached a men's team, they would kick ass" comment. Of course it's a back-handed and sexist compliment, but the point was taken.



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PostPosted: 09/04/06 7:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Sass wrote:
Either way, Pat gets a LOT of respect from men. Just the other night, a prof of mine (a former college player) made the "if Pat moved up and coached a men's team, they would kick ass" comment. Of course it's a back-handed and sexist compliment, but the point was taken.


We said more than a few times last year that Pat should be coaching the football team, because the men sure as hell didn't know what they were doing.
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PostPosted: 09/04/06 7:43 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
I could not get in. But I do remember that ESPN had one its count down shows on coaches and I think Pat made something like #3 and Geno was something like #6. I think Joe Torre might have been #1.



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PostPosted: 09/04/06 10:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
auntie wrote:
I could not get in. But I do remember that ESPN had one its count down shows on coaches and I think Pat made something like #3 and Geno was something like #6. I think Joe Torre might have been #1.


Not quite. ESPN did the best coaches of the past 25 years (done in 2004).

1. Dean Smith
2. Scotty Bowman
3. Coach K
4. Phil Jackson
5. Pat Summitt
6. Bill Walsh

Auriemma was 11th.

Then there was the ESPN poll of top Big-Game College coaches:

1. Wooden
2. Coach K
3. Denny Crum
4. Rick Pitino
5. Pat Summitt

Dean Smith was 10th. Auriemma was listed under "others."
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PostPosted: 09/05/06 2:34 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote
well my vote would have to go to Pat Summit all the way.
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PostPosted: 09/05/06 8:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
CamrnCrz1974 wrote:
auntie wrote:
I could not get in. But I do remember that ESPN had one its count down shows on coaches and I think Pat made something like #3 and Geno was something like #6. I think Joe Torre might have been #1.


Not quite. ESPN did the best coaches of the past 25 years (done in 2004).

1. Dean Smith
2. Scotty Bowman
3. Coach K
4. Phil Jackson
5. Pat Summitt
6. Bill Walsh

Auriemma was 11th.

Then there was the ESPN poll of top Big-Game College coaches:

1. Wooden
2. Coach K
3. Denny Crum
4. Rick Pitino
5. Pat Summitt

Dean Smith was 10th. Auriemma was listed under "others."


Thanks for the correction. It is interesting how my old brain twisted this around.



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PostPosted: 09/07/06 5:45 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
orangeblood wrote:
When I looked at it there had been over 16,000 votes. I doubt those 16,000 votes came from the Tennessee women's board. And if the demographics of visitors to espn.com is no longer predominantly male then I definitley missed the shift!


At least 500 came from one Tennessee fan:

http://mb18.scout.com/fgridscapefrm6.showMessage?topicID=30913.topic
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PostPosted: 09/07/06 8:30 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Looks like it's rigged too. Interesting. And those 500 votes also went to Dan Gable. Why on earth would someone go to that extent to keep a woman from winning an internet poll?
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PostPosted: 09/07/06 8:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
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Why on earth would someone go to that extent to keep a woman from winning an internet poll?


College wrestling fans are the most anti-women's sports people around. They've let the football people convince them that Title IX is why college wrestling is getting cut all over the place.



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PostPosted: 09/07/06 9:32 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Ah...very good point. Didn't think of that.
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PostPosted: 09/07/06 10:34 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
...sooooo would the universe be exploding if I admitted to voting for both Summitt and Gable?



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PostPosted: 09/07/06 10:44 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Queenie wrote:
...sooooo would the universe be exploding if I admitted to voting for both Summitt and Gable?


Yes, I believe it would.

Run for cover...as if it'll help.

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PostPosted: 09/07/06 10:47 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
jimmyk wrote:
Queenie wrote:
...sooooo would the universe be exploding if I admitted to voting for both Summitt and Gable?


Yes, I believe it would.

Run for cover...as if it'll help.

Cool


Damnit! I keep causing the universe to explode! I have GOT to stop putting the matter next to the antimatter! (or at least Raise the Roof next to The Same River Twice next to Reach for the Summitt next to Hoop Tales: UConn Women's Basketball)



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PostPosted: 09/07/06 10:49 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
Queenie wrote:
jimmyk wrote:
Queenie wrote:
...sooooo would the universe be exploding if I admitted to voting for both Summitt and Gable?


Yes, I believe it would.

Run for cover...as if it'll help.

Cool


Damnit! I keep causing the universe to explode! I have GOT to stop putting the matter next to the antimatter! (or at least Raise the Roof next to The Same River Twice next to Reach for the Summitt next to Hoop Tales: UConn Women's Basketball)


You put the Tennessee books next to the UConn books???!!!

Queenie, you're fucked up. Wink



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PostPosted: 09/07/06 10:52 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote
She's been doing that for years now. It's a miracle the earth still exists.

Maybe THAT is the explanation for global warming, then.
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