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tfan

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eyevolley4
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Posted: 12/16/24 2:00 pm ::: |
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Gwendolyn Loyd in the Chicago Sky’s promo video for a holiday gear event they did at Wintrust. You can find the video on Insta.
I’m sorry but this is just plain messy… and funny… like in other league…
I’m here for it though…
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Shades
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Monday, January 13, 2025
The Chicago Sky extended a Reserved qualifying offer to Nikolina Milić.
The Chicago Sky extended a Restricted qualifying offer to Dana Evans.
The Chicago Sky extended a Restricted qualifying offer to Michaela Onyenwere.
They’d be crazy not to extend something to Carter.
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ChiSky54
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Posted: 01/13/25 9:39 pm ::: |
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Crazier things have happened. Many Sky moves have been headscratchers over the years!
I didn't look closely when it was reported, but there might be bad blood because Tyler didn't mention her in his 2025 plans.
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Michael

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Posted: 01/13/25 11:08 pm ::: |
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Shades wrote: |
Monday, January 13, 2025
The Chicago Sky extended a Reserved qualifying offer to Nikolina Milić.
The Chicago Sky extended a Restricted qualifying offer to Dana Evans.
The Chicago Sky extended a Restricted qualifying offer to Michaela Onyenwere.
They’d be crazy not to extend something to Carter. |
Why? Chennedy has been a problem every place she has played. Chicago picked her up as an UFA because no one else wanted her and have nothing invested in her. She has little to no trade value if they decide she is not in their long term plans, so why waste time and money on her?
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Shades
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Posted: 01/14/25 2:46 am ::: |
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Michael wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
Monday, January 13, 2025
The Chicago Sky extended a Reserved qualifying offer to Nikolina Milić.
The Chicago Sky extended a Restricted qualifying offer to Dana Evans.
The Chicago Sky extended a Restricted qualifying offer to Michaela Onyenwere.
They’d be crazy not to extend something to Carter. |
Why? Chennedy has been a problem every place she has played. |
She hasn’t been a problem at the past two places she’s played.
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Chicago picked her up as an UFA because no one else wanted her and have nothing invested in her. |
Maybe unwanted then, just like DeShields and Harrison, but unlike DeShields she’s certainly proven herself and also started the whole season.
Just because they have “nothing invested in her” other than maybe a year of successful development, doesn’t mean you should throw away your gains.
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She has little to no trade value if they decide she is not in their long term plans, so why waste time and money on her? |
I’m sure there is interest in her for those actually paying attention.
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tfan

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Posted: 01/14/25 3:11 am ::: |
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Michael wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
They’d be crazy not to extend something to Carter. |
Why? Chennedy has been a problem every place she has played. Chicago picked her up as an UFA because no one else wanted her and have nothing invested in her. She has little to no trade value if they decide she is not in their long term plans, so why waste time and money on her? |
What problems did she create in Chicago? 17.5 points per game in 26 minutes for 33 games with a PER of 21.3.
The new Sky coach is a man who has mostly coached men. So he shouldn’t be as phased by any “unbecoming” behavior.
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Shades
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Posted: 01/14/25 4:44 am ::: |
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Pagliocca will have until Jan. 20 to offer Carter before she becomes an unrestricted free agent. |
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Michael

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Posted: 01/14/25 9:24 am ::: |
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tfan wrote: |
Michael wrote: |
Shades wrote: |
They’d be crazy not to extend something to Carter. |
Why? Chennedy has been a problem every place she has played. Chicago picked her up as an UFA because no one else wanted her and have nothing invested in her. She has little to no trade value if they decide she is not in their long term plans, so why waste time and money on her? |
What problems did she create in Chicago? 17.5 points per game in 26 minutes for 33 games with a PER of 21.3.
The new Sky coach is a man who has mostly coached men. So he shouldn’t be as phased by any “unbecoming” behavior. |
Do you not remember the massive tantrum she had in the Chicago locker room during post game press conference that was clearly audible out to the press area? The distancing Reese took from her the last third of the season where they mutually unfriended and unfollowed each other on all social media? She is an amazingly talented player, but she also seems to be a very difficult teammate to get along with.
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ClayK
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Posted: 01/14/25 9:46 am ::: |
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Carter has million-dollar talent and ten-cent head.
T-Spoon did everything she could to make her happy, and T-Spoon got fired.
If you're trying to build a culture, the last thing you need is player like Carter. She would fit much better on a veteran team with a solid existing culture where the players would not accept her act.
Then again, she's shown she will fight with veterans too.
It's really sad. She's a rare talent ...
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tfan

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Posted: 01/14/25 1:56 pm ::: |
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Michael wrote: |
Do you not remember the massive tantrum she had in the Chicago locker room during post game press conference that was clearly audible out to the press area?. |
I saw the post game interview with Cardozo and someone (and later Weatherspoon joined them) where you could hear things from the locker room, but I never heard that it was only Carter doing it.
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Posted: 01/21/25 4:03 pm ::: |
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Chennedy Carter is Planet Reed for a new generation, albeit slightly less volatile
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eyevolley4
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Chicago seems to be out of the gates early in meetings.
Conversations around Jewell, Dijonai, and Sloot.
I feel as though the Sky don’t have enough assets to score Dijonai and Jewell unless they are willing to move Kamilla which seems like a bananas idea.
Sloot to Chicago seems like it would only happen if another strong backcourt mate would be in the mix.
Would you trade Jewell for the #4 pick?
Would you trade Carrington for the #4 pick?
If you’re Chicago and you can only choose one of those two moves, which do you make? Bring Jewell home or play the long game with Carrington hoping she enjoys being in Chicago with Angel.
The Sky don’t have another asset I would want if I am either of those teams and presumably the Sky won’t trade a ‘26 or ‘27 first rounder.
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Michael

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Posted: 01/23/25 3:49 pm ::: |
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eyevolley4 wrote: |
Chicago seems to be out of the gates early in meetings.
Conversations around Jewell, Dijonai, and Sloot.
I feel as though the Sky don’t have enough assets to score Dijonai and Jewell unless they are willing to move Kamilla which seems like a bananas idea.
Sloot to Chicago seems like it would only happen if another strong backcourt mate would be in the mix.
Would you trade Jewell for the #4 pick?
Would you trade Carrington for the #4 pick?
If you’re Chicago and you can only choose one of those two moves, which do you make? Bring Jewell home or play the long game with Carrington hoping she enjoys being in Chicago with Angel.
The Sky don’t have another asset I would want if I am either of those teams and presumably the Sky won’t trade a ‘26 or ‘27 first rounder. |
I think Seattle or NY would jump at that trade for the #4 pick considering the talent in this draft. Dallas would take it for Sabally too most likely.
My issue is I would not make any trade for a free agent unless it comes with a pre-signed 4 or 5 year deal. Hunker down, use your draft picks and wait it out for the expansion drafts and new CBA to be done with before making any big moves.
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Shades
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Posted: 01/23/25 4:27 pm ::: |
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Did a trade happen that I missed, because Chicago has the #3 pick (not the #4), and that could be Olivia Miles or Flau’jae Johnson. They best keep that pick. The #10 pick, they could work with, maybe.
I don’t know if teams still consider Vandersloot starter material, since she turns 36 very soon, and last year a faux championship team basically benched her in favor of rookie Fiebich.
But if SEA considers Vandersloot starter material, then that makes a lot of sense because that’s a veteran group who are in win-now mode. It only works if Loyd is truly leaving, and then Diggins can slide to the SG, which is probably the better position for her anyway.
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Assistant coach and associate GM Pokey Chatman drafted Vandersloot in her first year as coach and GM of the Sky in 2011. |
Plus, SEA is Sloot’s home base.
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eyevolley4
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Posted: 01/23/25 5:31 pm ::: |
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No. You didn’t miss a trade. I made a mistake and noted the wrong pick.
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Posted: 01/23/25 11:39 pm ::: |
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Michael wrote: |
eyevolley4 wrote: |
Chicago seems to be out of the gates early in meetings.
Conversations around Jewell, Dijonai, and Sloot.
I feel as though the Sky don’t have enough assets to score Dijonai and Jewell unless they are willing to move Kamilla which seems like a bananas idea.
Sloot to Chicago seems like it would only happen if another strong backcourt mate would be in the mix.
Would you trade Jewell for the #4 pick?
Would you trade Carrington for the #4 pick?
If you’re Chicago and you can only choose one of those two moves, which do you make? Bring Jewell home or play the long game with Carrington hoping she enjoys being in Chicago with Angel.
The Sky don’t have another asset I would want if I am either of those teams and presumably the Sky won’t trade a ‘26 or ‘27 first rounder. |
I think Seattle or NY would jump at that trade for the #4 pick considering the talent in this draft. Dallas would take it for Sabally too most likely.
My issue is I would not make any trade for a free agent unless it comes with a pre-signed 4 or 5 year deal. Hunker down, use your draft picks and wait it out for the expansion drafts and new CBA to be done with before making any big moves. |
Is a 4-5 year contract even legal?
Also in a conversation regarding a player forcing a trade it’s a bit ironic to suggest getting a player with a long term contract that can put you in the same situation.
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Michael

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Posted: 01/24/25 9:15 am ::: |
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GEF34 wrote: |
Michael wrote: |
eyevolley4 wrote: |
Chicago seems to be out of the gates early in meetings.
Conversations around Jewell, Dijonai, and Sloot.
I feel as though the Sky don’t have enough assets to score Dijonai and Jewell unless they are willing to move Kamilla which seems like a bananas idea.
Sloot to Chicago seems like it would only happen if another strong backcourt mate would be in the mix.
Would you trade Jewell for the #4 pick?
Would you trade Carrington for the #4 pick?
If you’re Chicago and you can only choose one of those two moves, which do you make? Bring Jewell home or play the long game with Carrington hoping she enjoys being in Chicago with Angel.
The Sky don’t have another asset I would want if I am either of those teams and presumably the Sky won’t trade a ‘26 or ‘27 first rounder. |
I think Seattle or NY would jump at that trade for the #4 pick considering the talent in this draft. Dallas would take it for Sabally too most likely.
My issue is I would not make any trade for a free agent unless it comes with a pre-signed 4 or 5 year deal. Hunker down, use your draft picks and wait it out for the expansion drafts and new CBA to be done with before making any big moves. |
Is a 4-5 year contract even legal?
Also in a conversation regarding a player forcing a trade it’s a bit ironic to suggest getting a player with a long term contract that can put you in the same situation. |
I am not understanding your last sentence.
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Posted: 01/24/25 11:00 am ::: |
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Michael wrote: |
GEF34 wrote: |
Michael wrote: |
eyevolley4 wrote: |
Chicago seems to be out of the gates early in meetings.
Conversations around Jewell, Dijonai, and Sloot.
I feel as though the Sky don’t have enough assets to score Dijonai and Jewell unless they are willing to move Kamilla which seems like a bananas idea.
Sloot to Chicago seems like it would only happen if another strong backcourt mate would be in the mix.
Would you trade Jewell for the #4 pick?
Would you trade Carrington for the #4 pick?
If you’re Chicago and you can only choose one of those two moves, which do you make? Bring Jewell home or play the long game with Carrington hoping she enjoys being in Chicago with Angel.
The Sky don’t have another asset I would want if I am either of those teams and presumably the Sky won’t trade a ‘26 or ‘27 first rounder. |
I think Seattle or NY would jump at that trade for the #4 pick considering the talent in this draft. Dallas would take it for Sabally too most likely.
My issue is I would not make any trade for a free agent unless it comes with a pre-signed 4 or 5 year deal. Hunker down, use your draft picks and wait it out for the expansion drafts and new CBA to be done with before making any big moves. |
Is a 4-5 year contract even legal?
Also in a conversation regarding a player forcing a trade it’s a bit ironic to suggest getting a player with a long term contract that can put you in the same situation. |
I am not understanding your last sentence. |
Jewell Loyd if forcing a trade out of Seattle (from what is being reported) and you are suggesting only making a trade for a player with a long term contract, which could essentially put that team in the same situation Seattle is in, and hurting the team more so than helping in the long run. As opposed to making a trade for someone that could be a fit for the team even if the contract isn’t long term.
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Michael

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Posted: 01/24/25 12:43 pm ::: |
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GEF34 wrote: |
Michael wrote: |
GEF34 wrote: |
Michael wrote: |
eyevolley4 wrote: |
Chicago seems to be out of the gates early in meetings.
Conversations around Jewell, Dijonai, and Sloot.
I feel as though the Sky don’t have enough assets to score Dijonai and Jewell unless they are willing to move Kamilla which seems like a bananas idea.
Sloot to Chicago seems like it would only happen if another strong backcourt mate would be in the mix.
Would you trade Jewell for the #4 pick?
Would you trade Carrington for the #4 pick?
If you’re Chicago and you can only choose one of those two moves, which do you make? Bring Jewell home or play the long game with Carrington hoping she enjoys being in Chicago with Angel.
The Sky don’t have another asset I would want if I am either of those teams and presumably the Sky won’t trade a ‘26 or ‘27 first rounder. |
I think Seattle or NY would jump at that trade for the #4 pick considering the talent in this draft. Dallas would take it for Sabally too most likely.
My issue is I would not make any trade for a free agent unless it comes with a pre-signed 4 or 5 year deal. Hunker down, use your draft picks and wait it out for the expansion drafts and new CBA to be done with before making any big moves. |
Is a 4-5 year contract even legal?
Also in a conversation regarding a player forcing a trade it’s a bit ironic to suggest getting a player with a long term contract that can put you in the same situation. |
I am not understanding your last sentence. |
Jewell Loyd if forcing a trade out of Seattle (from what is being reported) and you are suggesting only making a trade for a player with a long term contract, which could essentially put that team in the same situation Seattle is in, and hurting the team more so than helping in the long run. As opposed to making a trade for someone that could be a fit for the team even if the contract isn’t long term. |
If you trade long term assets for a short term player, you are a dumb GM unless you are that one player away from a title. If you are trading for ANY of the free agents asking out from their current team, their value is vastly diminished to begin with, and moreso if they only have a one year contract. What good does it do Chicago to trade draft picks for Loyd, Plum, or Sabally only to have them bounce next year in free agency again?
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