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snzuluz
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Posted: 03/31/24 8:10 am ::: |
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For players, words and actions stay with them the longest. The Washington Post article certainly runs on that theme. WORDS MATTER!
Learning to forgive (doesn’t mean you don’t forget) is a life skill that Mulkey certainly has never learned. Harboring resentment because you haven’t learned to forgive makes you a hard shelled person and that carries over into relationships on a personal level and professional level to include players. It seems that if you hurt her she doesn’t have the emotional maturity level to learn to forgive and move on… her father and her sister who she no longer talks to.
Both she and Gino try and use humor at least what they think it’s humor making comments to/about their players, but they never stop to think how those words hurt. It’s great to win a lot of games but at what cost. Most of the players interviewed in the article talked about the words she used and how emotionally unavailable she was or even dismissive when they ran into her later. One of them actually want to thank her for everything she did for her and Mulkey simply walked away and never said anything in response.
That’s who she is as a person and that’s really sad.
It’s great to be a hardnose coach like Tara at Stanford’s, Pat at Tennessee, Gino at UConn, Andy Landers when he was at Georgia, and Mulkey. But in the end, words matter and the tone in which you use towards your players.
Mulkey has not learned that her snide comments about a players dress, appearance, or even the color of her hair (which is interesting since many of her LSU players have different colored hair in the wigs that they wear) in the end are all hurtful even though she think she’s joking around. Her attitude of I don’t care what people think of me is immature on her part as the supposed leader of a program and a very public figure.
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snlMINAJ
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Posted: 03/31/24 8:17 am ::: |
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Gino?
if you mean Geno, what words has he ever said that hurt his players?
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 03/31/24 10:06 am ::: |
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LA Times updates their column.
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Mulkey went on an extended rant over what she called "sexist" language in the column, which originally called the game vs. UCLA a battle of "good vs. evil." In particular, Mulkey objected to the description of her defending NCAA champion Lady Tigers as "dirty debutantes."
That phrase, along with references to LSU as "villains," and references to UCLA as "milk and cookies" and "America's sweethearts" were also removed from the column (though "America’s sweethearts vs. its basketball villains" remained in the headline and the online link). |
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/2024/03/31/kim-mulkeys-major-changes-la-times-column/73160364007/
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ClayK
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Posted: 03/31/24 10:23 am ::: |
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I have never met Kim Mulkey and know nothing about her, really -- but the Post article is certainly consistent with what most of us believe.
It is equally true that Mulkey is a brilliant coach and fierce competitor.
Without doubting the sincerity of her feelings, this whole controversy has removed every bit of pressure from LSU. No one's talking about Angel Reese's or Flau'jae Johnson's attitudes and actions. With all the focus on Mulkey, LSU's players can simply focus on the game. By now, they've come to terms with Mulkey's coaching style and will zero in on the goal.
If some are unhappy, they'll leave at season's end, but no one's talking about it now because Mulkey is sucking up all the media oxygen. All in all, I think this helps LSU's chances a lot more than it hurts them.
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summertime blues
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Posted: 03/31/24 11:09 am ::: |
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And now she's screaming at the LA Times, who apparently "updated" their article after she did, but she's still pouting. In the end, it's all about HER. Always was.
Pat Summitt could be hard-nosed and sharp-tongued on occasion, but nobody ever doubted that she loved her players. Ask any of them, anyone who played for her. And she always took time for her fans. That's the difference.
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Conway Gamecock
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jap
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Posted: 03/31/24 2:45 pm ::: |
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ClayK wrote: |
I have never met Kim Mulkey and know nothing about her, really -- but the Post article is certainly consistent with what most of us believe.
It is equally true that Mulkey is a brilliant coach and fierce competitor.
Without doubting the sincerity of her feelings, this whole controversy has removed every bit of pressure from LSU. No one's talking about Angel Reese's or Flau'jae Johnson's attitudes and actions. With all the focus on Mulkey, LSU's players can simply focus on the game. By now, they've come to terms with Mulkey's coaching style and will zero in on the goal.
If some are unhappy, they'll leave at season's end, but no one's talking about it now because Mulkey is sucking up all the media oxygen. All in all, I think this helps LSU's chances a lot more than it hurts them. |
Which is what I felt was Kim's intention all along. I have seen some coaches go to over-the-top extremes in multiple sports to take the pressure off their players and absorb everything themselves.
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TechDawgMc
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Posted: 03/31/24 2:53 pm ::: |
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summertime blues wrote: |
And now she's screaming at the LA Times, who apparently "updated" their article after she did, but she's still pouting. In the end, it's all about HER. Always was.
Pat Summitt could be hard-nosed and sharp-tongued on occasion, but nobody ever doubted that she loved her players. Ask any of them, anyone who played for her. And she always took time for her fans. That's the difference. |
I get that you don’t like Kim, and that there are good reasons, but the Times article was way out of line. That’s why they revised it. They were catching crap from a number of sources. And just deleting the offensive stuff and reposting seems pretty weak to me. Somewhat like “even paranoids have enemies” even drama queens sometimes have a point
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Ex-Ref
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Posted: 03/31/24 5:23 pm ::: |
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jap wrote: |
ClayK wrote: |
I have never met Kim Mulkey and know nothing about her, really -- but the Post article is certainly consistent with what most of us believe.
It is equally true that Mulkey is a brilliant coach and fierce competitor.
Without doubting the sincerity of her feelings, this whole controversy has removed every bit of pressure from LSU. No one's talking about Angel Reese's or Flau'jae Johnson's attitudes and actions. With all the focus on Mulkey, LSU's players can simply focus on the game. By now, they've come to terms with Mulkey's coaching style and will zero in on the goal.
If some are unhappy, they'll leave at season's end, but no one's talking about it now because Mulkey is sucking up all the media oxygen. All in all, I think this helps LSU's chances a lot more than it hurts them. |
Which is what I felt was Kim's intention all along. I have seen some coaches go to over-the-top extremes in multiple sports to take the pressure off their players and absorb everything themselves. |
Geno has done this.
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BamaEd
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Posted: 04/01/24 10:33 am ::: |
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LA Times updates their column.
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Mulkey went on an extended rant over what she called "sexist" language in the column, which originally called the game vs. UCLA a battle of "good vs. evil." In particular, Mulkey objected to the description of her defending NCAA champion Lady Tigers as "dirty debutantes."
That phrase, along with references to LSU as "villains," and references to UCLA as "milk and cookies" and "America's sweethearts" were also removed from the column (though "America’s sweethearts vs. its basketball villains" remained in the headline and the online link). |
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/2024/03/31/kim-mulkeys-major-changes-la-times-column/73160364007/ |
That LA Times article was AWFUL! I'm not sure how it made it past an editor. It was sexist, racist, misogynistic, and just plain bad.
Cori Close had retweet it, but removed that and posted an apology saying she just saw the headline and didn't read the article. LA Times updated because it was that bad.
If the writer wanted to contrast styles of play, do that. If he wanted to contrast coaching styles, do that. But to personally attack LSU players, no, not that.
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snzuluz
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Posted: 04/01/24 11:54 am ::: |
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Thanks for finding the one word I misspelled in my post and overlooked it when I went back to proofread it. I’m glad that that’s all you got out of my post.
Go back over the years and either look up articles or videos where Geno has thrown his players under the bus… if you even listen to some of his former players talk about his sarcastic responses/comments to them and how his words hurt.
He and Mulky are cut from the same cloth. He has mellowed quite a bit in the last couple years but he used to be Hurtful in his actions and words and had biting comments at his press conferences about players after a game, in which she lost.
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summertime blues
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Posted: 04/01/24 12:32 pm ::: |
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Pat was never, ever, nasty about players in public. She could dress them down in private, and did, but was never nasty in public. I can remember Geno throwing players under the bus though he has mellowed a lot recently, perhaps realizing that his coaching days are numbered or maybe just realizing that he's getting old. Kim, OTOH, bears all the hallmarks of a narcissist.
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patsweetpat
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Posted: 04/11/24 8:52 am ::: |
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Hey, where'd we end up on that defamation suit, btw?
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ridor
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Posted: 04/13/24 10:11 pm ::: |
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patsweetpat wrote: |
Hey, where'd we end up on that defamation suit, btw? |
You so bad. Don't worry. Kim Mulkey announced that she's entering the transfer portal.
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Howee
Joined: 27 Nov 2009 Posts: 15838 Location: OREGON (in my heart)
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Posted: 04/13/24 10:57 pm ::: |
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ridor wrote: |
patsweetpat wrote: |
Hey, where'd we end up on that defamation suit, btw? |
You so bad. Don't worry. Kim Mulkey announced that she's entering the transfer portal. |
....speaking of which, "Kim" also makes a hilarious appearance on SNL's cold open (see the "Caitlin makes SNL" thread here) 🤣
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Posted: 06/15/24 12:03 pm ::: |
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The Daily Advertiser has obtained via an open records request e-mail correspondence between LSU officials and The Post, including Babb, for a span of 30 days predating Mulkey’s press conference. Those emails uncover details that shed light on the line of questioning the outlet had for Mulkey for its profile and LSU’s response to those inquires. |
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Angel Reese allegedly involved in 2022 fight with unnamed teammates in front of recruits |
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LSU women's basketball player allegedly disciplined for showing support for Brittney Griner |
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Babb mentioned he couldn’t share identities of some of his sources because of “credible fears about possible retribution after speaking honestly about sensitive matters, particularly in the close-knit women’s basketball community.” Information from some unnamed sources was used in the Washington Post story. |
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/2024/06/15/what-washington-post-planned-to-write-about-kim-mulkey-lsu-angel-reese-brittney-griner-lawsuit/74107942007/
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summertime blues
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Posted: 06/15/24 6:56 pm ::: |
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Mulkey is a hater and a grudge holder, just two of the reasons I don't like her. I don't care how good a coach she is, if I had a kid who was a really good player, she would NEVER play for Kimmie.
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linkster
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Posted: 06/21/24 6:02 pm ::: |
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Stories are stories.
Mulkey is a great coach. Multiple titles. Coached a lot of WNBA players. She was also successful at bring in some outstanding front court players. I think she's a hoot on the sidelines.
She is all that is keeping South Caroline from becoming to the SEC what UConn was in the AAC. Her and now, Texas.
Last year I thought the media was insane calling LSU the super team. This year I think LSU will be a better team. Addition by subtraction.
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