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| I was wondering the same thing! Sopron is going to need all the guards that were supposedly going to play for them to eventually actually do so
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I just watched the SuperCup game. UMMC is obviously the better collection of talent, but Valencia was the better team. They're scrappy and everyone contributes. A lot of players are capable of stepping up to carry the team for a stretch. I saw them against Venezia in the Eurocup final, and in that game, the star player was Casas. Allen, Trahan-Davis, and Carrera also made major contributions. In this game, Allen was big in the first half, leading Valencia with 14 points. Then, Ouvina and Carrera carried them in the second half with Gil also chipping in when needed.
A couple of other observations. How did UMMC end up with Alex Bentley as their point guard? With their seemingly unlimited budget and ability to attract stars, you'd expect someone better. Is Alex simply a placeholder until Sloot or somebody else joins the team later? In this game, Bentley got to be the player who complains after every call. There were at least three against her down the stretch. On the last one, Bentley ran over Gil trying to get around a screen. Gil had her back turned when Bentley crashed into her. This was clearly not an embellished flop when she went flying and landed on the ground. Nevertheless, Bentley acted outraged when she was called for the foul.
There was also a strange replay review of a foul situation. Since this broadcast had no play-by-play -- just ambient sound -- I don't know if a foul was called. Judging from everybody's reaction, it looked like no call was made. With Torrens pushing the ball hard upcourt, Allen planted in front of her and tried to draw a charge. Bec established her position early while never moving her feet. However, she did shift her torso. Torrens tried to avoid Allen, but ended up tripping over Bec's leg. Block or charge? Again, I didn't see a call by the referees, and no player complained like they were upset. After a discussion, the three referees went to the replay table. They eventually called a block on Allen. I've never seen a common foul called based on a review. Maybe a foul actually was assessed initially, and they were reviewing for an unsportsmanlike act based on Torrens going down hard? Anyway, it was weird.
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France:
Villeneuve vs. Bourges 73-78 VIL Anderson 17/7r Diaby 14 Djaldi-Tabdi 12 Harmon 4 BRG Rupert 21/6r Duchet 18/7a Miyem 16 Mann 5 Yacoubou 2
Landes vs. Lyon 45-85 LAN Dumerc 8 Fauthoux 8 Ajemba 5/9r Tolo 0 LYO Johannes 13/7r Crvendakic 13 Badiane 13 Allemand 11/6a Jocyte 6
Angers vs. Lattes Montpellier 87-73 ANG Bailey 24 Peterson 19/6a Slonjsak 12 Arrondo 12 Chidom 10/7r Cornelie-Sigmundova 5/10r MTP Wallace 24 Peters 15/6r Toure 10 Warley-Talbert 6/7r
Charleville vs. Hainaut 71-61 CHM Bouderra 17/10a Pouye 15 Berkani 12 Mendy 10 Akhator 5 Fiebich 0 HAI Gustavsson 11/7r Lithard 10/7a Thompson 10 Williams 8
Landerneau vs. Tarbes 68-65 BRE Kalu 19 Geiselsoder 12/12r Muldrow 10/9r TAR Tadic 15/12r Ewodo 15/8r Samson 10 Wojta 8/7r Quinones 4
Roche vs. Charnay 78-66 RVB Morrison 18/12r Clarke 17 Suarez 13 Bankole 12/7r Mosqueda-Lewis 12 CHA Coulibaly 12 Muzet 7 Robinson 7 Diop 5
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Ahom111 do you know whats up with J. Brooks on Sopron?
2 weeks ago she was in uniform but didnt play, and this past week she was in street clothes. I am talking about the Eurolegue games I have seen.
She certainly makes Soprons team a bit more diverse, then just Williams and Hatar. |
Not sure. Sopron generally has solid reporting, but apparently not a great archive system so I am not seeing their older news. Peddy should be there for their next game though. I suppose they could shift Williams to the 4 for more minutes. |
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I just watched the SuperCup game. UMMC is obviously the better collection of talent, but Valencia was the better team. They're scrappy and everyone contributes. A lot of players are capable of stepping up to carry the team for a stretch. I saw them against Venezia in the Eurocup final, and in that game, the star player was Casas. Allen, Trahan-Davis, and Carrera also made major contributions. In this game, Allen was big in the first half, leading Valencia with 14 points. Then, Ouvina and Carrera carried them in the second half with Gil also chipping in when needed.
A couple of other observations. How did UMMC end up with Alex Bentley as their point guard? With their seemingly unlimited budget and ability to attract stars, you'd expect someone better. Is Alex simply a placeholder until Sloot or somebody else joins the team later? In this game, Bentley got to be the player who complains after every call. There were at least three against her down the stretch. On the last one, Bentley ran over Gil trying to get around a screen. Gil had her back turned when Bentley crashed into her. This was clearly not an embellished flop when she went flying and landed on the ground. Nevertheless, Bentley acted outraged when she was called for the foul.
There was also a strange replay review of a foul situation. Since this broadcast had no play-by-play -- just ambient sound -- I don't know if a foul was called. Judging from everybody's reaction, it looked like no call was made. With Torrens pushing the ball hard upcourt, Allen planted in front of her and tried to draw a charge. Bec established her position early while never moving her feet. However, she did shift her torso. Torrens tried to avoid Allen, but ended up tripping over Bec's leg. Block or charge? Again, I didn't see a call by the referees, and no player complained like they were upset. After a discussion, the three referees went to the replay table. They eventually called a block on Allen. I've never seen a common foul called based on a review. Maybe a foul actually was assessed initially, and they were reviewing for an unsportsmanlike act based on Torrens going down hard? Anyway, it was weird. |
The call on Allen was the correct call. However, I dont believe you can establish position on the court with your legs spread apart and your arms not at your side. Nearly all charges taken you need to have your feet together and arms at your side or crossed on your chest. Allen made her self bigger, by having have her legs wide and her arms spread out.
Perhaps someone with an officials background can review.
The you tube link is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Cmn8iHBTY
It happened with 4.02 left in the 4th quarter(or about 1hr and 37 minutes on the bottom time scroll). If you stay on the video after the foul, when the refs go to the scorers table to review, they show a slow motion replay and you can see Allen not in the normal position to take an offensive charge.
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The call on Allen was the correct call. However, I dont believe you can establish position on the court with your legs spread apart and your arms not at your side. Nearly all charges taken you need to have your feet together and arms at your side or crossed on your chest. Allen made her self bigger, by having have her legs wide and her arms spread out.
Perhaps someone with an officials background can review.
The you tube link is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Cmn8iHBTY
It happened with 4.02 left in the 4th quarter(or about 1hr and 37 minutes on the bottom time scroll). If you stay on the video after the foul, when the refs go to the scorers table to review, they show a slow motion replay and you can see Allen not in the normal position to take an offensive charge. |
Rewatching the play once more, I think Allen wasn't trying to draw a charge as much as she was trying to force a backcourt violation. Bec had knocked the ball loose after it was inbounded. Torrens retrieved the ball and was probably rushing to get across the timeline. I think Bec wanted to delay Alba by getting in the way, expecting Torrens to pause or take a more circuitous route. Instead, Alba tried to veer off at the last second and tripped over Bec. You could see the surprise on Allen's face after the collision. That's not the expression of someone who expected violent contact.
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The website is back, but losing power for five hours in not conducive to updating it so one more day of these here:
October 22, 2021
Triumf Botosani vs. Sirius Targu Mures 45-76 BOT Afanasieva 14/6r Karasevich 14 TAM Sherrill 14/11r Chis 10/6a Mircea 10 Griffin 8/11r Allen 8
October 23, 2021
Universitatea Cluj-Napoca vs. Rapid Bucuresti 69-55 CLU Rubin 24/15r Nicholas 16/13r Beldian 12 RAP Stanici 27/7r/7a/8s Cazacu 15
Agronomia Bucuresti vs. Alexandria 49-53 AGR Sipos 16/8r Kovacs 16 ALE Mihai 19/9r Pana 14/17r/7a
Satu Mare vs. Olimpia Brasov 105-69 SAT Taylor 31/11r Kostowicz 27 Moore 13 Dzombeta 12/8a Vuckovic 0 BRA Pesovic 31/6r Armanu 18 Dusanic 16/6r Hawkins 4/6r
October 24, 2021
Phoenix Constanta vs. Targoviste 74-64 CON Hinriksdottir 18 Rosten 15/10r D. Fota 13 Johnson 10/7a Vega 7 TAR Irimia 25/11r Stoenescu 20 |
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Turkey:
October 23, 2021
Orman vs. Fenerbahce 75-82 ORM McCowan 22/12r Robinson 18 Uzun 13 Lucet 4/9r FEN McBride 25/6r Iagupova 17/7r/7a Canitez 16/6r Thomas 8 Stokes 6/9r Cakir 6 Zahui B 4
Hatay vs. Bursa 50-66 HAT Ellenberg-Wiley 11 Brown 9/6r BUR Cuic 18/8r Macaulay 17/9r Doyle 12 Ari 11/7r
Cukurova vs. Botas 68-56 CUK Hayes 19/6r Zellous 12 Hollingsworth 10/8r Anigwe 8 Fagbenle 6/9r BOT Dubljevic 17 Jurjane 11 Davis 8
Galatasaray vs. Cankaya Universitesi 66-54 GAL Williams 18/7r Gulcan 10 Dungee 10 Steinberga 7/6r CAU Babkina 16 Prince 12/11r White 6 Kizer 3
Izmit vs. Besiktas 85-67 IZM Fields 30 Korkmaz 19/6r Higgins 14/18r Marginean 10/6r/8a Turk 4/6r BES Simmons 18 Jakobsone 13 Topuz 12 Hersler 4/7r Kepenc 3
October 24, 2021
Antalya vs. Kayseri 81-70 ANT Davis 27/10r Jones 24/7a Ivankovic 13/12r Ozelci 3 KAY Williams 18/6r Brezinova 16 Slocum 15/6a |
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Spain:
October 23, 2021
Gipuzkoa vs. Ferrol 89-60 GIP Coulibaly 22/6r Espana 21 Harden 13 Madden 11/6r/7a Cornelius 11 Cvitkovic 2 Brown 2 FER Grande 14 Allen 13 Koenen 12/7r Swart 6 Ivanovic 4 Leaupepe 2 Gari 2
Bembibre vs. Leganes 62-66 BEM N’Diaye 19 Lass 14/7r Melgoza 8 Kalin 4 LEG Jespersen 22/7r Okonkwo 11 Muhate 10/14r Hermida 9/8r Tate 8 Ruffin-Pratt 2 Koizar 2
Gernika vs. Estudiantes 63-57 GER Moore 17 Bjorklund 15 Roundtree 9 Silva 0 EST Quevedo 15 Carter 11 Fingall 6/7r Knight 6
Avenida vs. Zaragoza 69-59 AVE Kat. Samuelson 19 Cazorla 11 Vilaro 9 Evans 8 Alarie 6 Kar. Samuelson 5 Fasoula 4 Hof 2 Rodriguez 2 ZAR Calhoun 15 Hempe 14/8r Cruz 12 Gimeno 4 Kostourkova 0
Gran Canaria vs. Araski 74-58 GRA Kone 17/13r Caldwell 16 Giomi 8/7r Nesbitt 8 Hartmann 6 Mestdagh 6 Millan 3 ARA Atkinson 19/7r Dongue 12 Seda 9/11r Zec 9 Alonso de Armino 0
Sedis vs. Girona 55-66 SED Pivec 18 Etxarri 12/14r Tunstull 6 Raventos 5 Brotons 2 Strautmane 0 Pujol 0 GIR Burke 16/6r Drammeh 15 Gardner 11 Flores 6/9r Reisingerova 6 Eldebrink 0 Lopez 0
October 24, 2021
Promete vs. Valencia 58-63 PRO Nogic 16/7r Estebas 11/6r Geldof 4 Ayuso 4 Diarra 2/11r VAL Allen 12 Gulich 9/8r Carrera 9 Romero 7 Salvadores 5 Trahan-Davis 0
Tenerife vs. Ensino 57-59 TEN Tikvic 20 Davis 17 Ferrari 4 Bailey 3 ENS Oma 15 Orsili 12 Silva 7/6r Lizarazu 5 White 4/6r |
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Poland:
October 23, 2021
Polonia Warszawa vs. Zaglebie Sosnowiec 92-88 WAR Leszczynska 17/9r Sosnowska 17 Goodwin 17/11a Knight 13 SOS Bogicevic 25/7r January 21/9r/10a/6s Sutherland 16/8r Sagerer 10/6r Dornstauder 6
Torun vs. GTK Gdynia 86-74 TOR Scaife 20/8r Bennett 18/7r/7a Sarr 12 Podkanska 11 Grzenkowicz 10 Adebayo 8 GTK Parzenska 24/9r Ossowska 20 Zytkowska 10
October 24, 2021
Arka Gdynia vs. Bydgoszcz 89-70 GDY Bertsch 30/11r Gustafson 19/10r Kastanek 5 BYD Alleyne 17/13r Stankiewicz 16 Fontaine 16 Houser 14
Poznan vs. Sleza Wroclaw 71-78 POZ Marciniak 17/10r McCray 17/7r Trzeciak 14 Reimer 11 SLE Wilson 25/6r/11a Bright 17/10r Jasnowska 17 Jakubiuk 10/8r
Gorzow vs. Lublin 69-72 GOR Hristova 27 Hurt 11/7r Jones 8/7r Makurat 6 LUB Smalls 19 Mack 17/7r Stanacev 17/6r/6a Jakubcova 17 |
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Italy:
October 23, 2021
Moncalieri vs. Bologna 49-84 MON Paixao 19 Williams 8/10r BOL Hines-Allen 27/8r Dojkic 13 Zandalasini 12/8r Tava 11 Laterza 0
October 24, 2021
Faenza vs. Schio 54-70 FAE Kunaiyi-Akpanah 12/22r Cupido 12 Davis 6 SCH Gruda 18/7r Mestdagh 12 Keys 10/7r Andre’ 10 Laksa 8
Campobasso vs. Sassari 94-59 CAM Gray 25/11r Chagas 16 Parks 14/8r Premasunac 11/7r Quinonez 10 SAS Shepard 22/11r Lucas 18
Empoli vs. San Martino di Lupari 55-69 EMP Bocchetti 16 Baldelli 10 Williams 9/10r Ravelli 9 SAM Kelley 21/18r Pastrello 19/6r Russo 11/7r Mitchell 9
Sesto San Giovanni vs. Costa Masnaga 77-73 SES Graves 19/11r Crudo 17/6r Raca 15/9r Gwathmey 13 Dotto 11 COS Jackson 15/7r M. Villa 15 Jablonowski 14/6r Vaughn 13/9r
Broni vs. Lucca 56-48 BRO Dedic 17/12r Galbiati 13/6r Krivacevic 7/7r LUC Dietrick 19 Wiese 14/6r Gianolla 2
Ragusa vs. Venezia 64-71 RAG Taylor 15/10r Kuier 14/8r Romeo 11 Santucci 7 Ostarello 3 VEN Anderson 15 Attura 12 Carangelo 10 Thornton 7 Penna 7 |
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Hungary:
October 24, 2021
Pecsi vs. BEAC 68-77 PEC Tenyer 20/6a/6s Vincze 12 Davis-Stewart 10/12r BEAC Meresz 22/10r Barnai 13/8r Joseph 12/11r
Gyor vs. Szekszard 59-80 GYO Mompremier 28/13r Oroszova 11 Colley 0 Markovic 0 SZE Goree 18/10r Milic 16/10r Gereben 12/7r/7a Krnjic 4 Vorpahl 3
DVTK vs. MTK 62-56 DVTK Green 15/17r Jovanovic 12/7a Aho 10 MTK Tapley 21/8r Dul 12/7r Theodorean 11/7r
Cegled vs. Vasas 57-53 CEG Manis 20/13r Holesinska 10 Baugh 6 Fa. Szabo 3/7r VAS Toth 14/6r Madar 12 Papp 12
PEAC vs. Szigetszentmiklos 63-55 PEAC Kiss 22/8r Nelson 12/13r Marshall 9/6r SZI Campisano 17/8r Angyal 12 Davis 6/6r Zivaljevic 4/7r
Csata vs. Sopron 60-73 CSA Lelik 18 Hegedus 15/9r Carey 6 SOP Hatar 20/6r Williams 19/8r |
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Czech Republic:
October 23, 2021
Strakonice vs. Brno 58-91 STR Rosecka 16/6r Vydrova 10 ZAB Stoupalova 16 Kopecka 15/11r Galickova 13/7a Holmes 13 Hamzova 10
October 24, 2021
Chomutov vs. Slavia Praha 51-55 CHO Krejzova 14/7r Bartonova 13/7a/6s Reynolds 4 SLA Rokosova 17/12r Mircova 13/6r Zilova 11/8r
Slovanka vs. USK Praha 47-125 SLO Zeithammerova 14/6a USK Jones 29/8r Vorackova 20/8r/10a Conde 16/6a Sklenarova 15/7a Thomas 13/6a/7s Balintova 13
Ostrava vs. Lokomotiva Trutnov 80-79 OVA Silov 20 Svetlikova 18/7r E. Kubickova 14/6r A. Kubickova 12/7r TRU Rylichova 18 Kralova 15 Potockova 14 Wolf 11/17r Finkova 11 |
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Russia:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2021/10/russian-league-round-4-october-24th-25th/
Israel:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2021/10/israeli-league-round-2-october-22nd-25th/
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I just watched the SuperCup game. UMMC is obviously the better collection of talent, but Valencia was the better team. They're scrappy and everyone contributes. A lot of players are capable of stepping up to carry the team for a stretch. I saw them against Venezia in the Eurocup final, and in that game, the star player was Casas. Allen, Trahan-Davis, and Carrera also made major contributions. In this game, Allen was big in the first half, leading Valencia with 14 points. Then, Ouvina and Carrera carried them in the second half with Gil also chipping in when needed.
A couple of other observations. How did UMMC end up with Alex Bentley as their point guard? With their seemingly unlimited budget and ability to attract stars, you'd expect someone better. Is Alex simply a placeholder until Sloot or somebody else joins the team later? In this game, Bentley got to be the player who complains after every call. There were at least three against her down the stretch. On the last one, Bentley ran over Gil trying to get around a screen. Gil had her back turned when Bentley crashed into her. This was clearly not an embellished flop when she went flying and landed on the ground. Nevertheless, Bentley acted outraged when she was called for the foul.
There was also a strange replay review of a foul situation. Since this broadcast had no play-by-play -- just ambient sound -- I don't know if a foul was called. Judging from everybody's reaction, it looked like no call was made. With Torrens pushing the ball hard upcourt, Allen planted in front of her and tried to draw a charge. Bec established her position early while never moving her feet. However, she did shift her torso. Torrens tried to avoid Allen, but ended up tripping over Bec's leg. Block or charge? Again, I didn't see a call by the referees, and no player complained like they were upset. After a discussion, the three referees went to the replay table. They eventually called a block on Allen. I've never seen a common foul called based on a review. Maybe a foul actually was assessed initially, and they were reviewing for an unsportsmanlike act based on Torrens going down hard? Anyway, it was weird. |
Based on their last domestic league game, it looks like Bentley counts as Russian by having a passport from Belarus, unless the rules changed at some point so that would probably explain their interest. Given their loss and their owner's paranoid tendencies when they lose, I may have a tweet lined up with roster suggestions. |
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Based on their last domestic league game, it looks like Bentley counts as Russian by having a passport from Belarus, unless the rules changed at some point so that would probably explain their interest. Given their loss and their owner's paranoid tendencies when they lose, I may have a tweet lined up with roster suggestions. |
Ah, I should have guessed -- Bentley is "Russian". I'm sure they can naturalize a better Russian if needed.
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Video for the week:
EuroCup:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2021/10/watch-eurocup-games-this-week-here/
EuroLeague:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2021/10/watch-euroleague-games-here-wednesday/
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Based on their last domestic league game, it looks like Bentley counts as Russian by having a passport from Belarus, unless the rules changed at some point so that would probably explain their interest. Given their loss and their owner's paranoid tendencies when they lose, I may have a tweet lined up with roster suggestions. |
Ah, I should have guessed -- Bentley is "Russian". I'm sure they can naturalize a better Russian if needed.
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Naturalizing seems to fall in and out of favor in Russia so it may actually be pretty hard. Olaf Lange got them to naturalize Jamierra Faulkner, but that did not work out. The best players from Belarus are aging out so we will see if there are any decent candidates for extra players. |
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In other naturalisation news that possibly no one other than me will care about, apparently Karlie Samuelson counts as naturalised and so does Kennedy Leonard, which is a central reason why Leonard has barely been in the Great Britain squad to this point: https://mvp247.substack.com/p/money-money-money . Bit surprised the Samuelson family didn't make sure that everyone had every passport possible at the earliest point, given how entrenched they've been in the basketball system for so long.
Honestly, at this point, and given the other players in the squad, you could probably make a case that Leonard would be more useful to GB than Samuelson... |
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I have to say, as someone who’s been a Pac-12 wbb follower for some years now, it’s kinda weird to hear Leonard’s name come up in this context after basically having forgotten she existed since she became a pro (up until hearing her name mentioned in recent weeks). She was one of those players at Colorado who was good the whole time she was there, but just never turned into someone great. Flashy passer, quick & pesky defender, but her inefficiency at scoring the rock all but prevented her from getting a legit crack at the W. Has she become a competent shooter yet or nah?
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I have to say, as someone who’s been a Pac-12 wbb follower for some years now, it’s kinda weird to hear Leonard’s name come up in this context after basically having forgotten she existed since she became a pro (up until hearing her name mentioned in recent weeks). She was one of those players at Colorado who was good the whole time she was there, but just never turned into someone great. Flashy passer, quick & pesky defender, but her inefficiency at scoring the rock all but prevented her from getting a legit crack at the W. Has she become a competent shooter yet or nah? |
She shot 44% from the field last season with a load of threes (at 33%), so not terrible but not great considering the level. She's probably too good for the WBBL (British league) but London Lions are spending some money at the moment to try to compete in Europe. She's been getting headlines for her assist totals rather than her scoring, breaking her own record at the weekend with 22 in one game.
When they're healthy, this season she's playing alongside Holly Winterburn, Johannah Leedham, Azania Stewart and Chantel Charles, among others. Names that may ring a distant bell with NCAAW followers. |
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| I have to say, as someone who’s been a Pac-12 wbb follower for some years now, it’s kinda weird to hear Leonard’s name come up |
I'm terrible with names, so my initial reaction was "Kennedy Who?". But then I looked her up and I immediately recognized the face. I remember Leonard as a player who at times could look spectacular but her inconsistent shooting really weighed her down. I had totally forgotten about her.
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| When they're healthy, this season she's playing alongside Holly Winterburn, Johannah Leedham, Azania Stewart and Chantel Charles, among others. Names that may ring a distant bell with NCAAW followers. |
I've heard Azania Stewart several times as a color commentator on broadcasts. I wondered if she was still playing. I guess the answer is yes.
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| When they're healthy, this season she's playing alongside Holly Winterburn, Johannah Leedham, Azania Stewart and Chantel Charles, among others. Names that may ring a distant bell with NCAAW followers. |
I've heard Azania Stewart several times as a color commentator on broadcasts. I wondered if she was still playing. I guess the answer is yes. |
I believe she was officially retired for a bit, rather than just moonlighting as a commentator at the same time. Then came back. Good thing too, because man Lions are small whenever she rests. Good win today but they could really use another genuine big. |
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Based on their last domestic league game, it looks like Bentley counts as Russian by having a passport from Belarus, unless the rules changed at some point so that would probably explain their interest. Given their loss and their owner's paranoid tendencies when they lose, I may have a tweet lined up with roster suggestions. |
Ah, I should have guessed -- Bentley is "Russian". I'm sure they can naturalize a better Russian if needed.
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Based on their last domestic league game, it looks like Bentley counts as Russian by having a passport from Belarus, unless the rules changed at some point so that would probably explain their interest. Given their loss and their owner's paranoid tendencies when they lose, I may have a tweet lined up with roster suggestions. |
Ah, I should have guessed -- Bentley is "Russian". I'm sure they can naturalize a better Russian if needed.
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Yeah, I watched the whole game. Maybe if Bentley had played better the entire game, she wouldn't have to make that winning basket. 2-7 shooting and 3 TOs vs 1 assist in 20 minutes. Is that really what you want from your point guard? -3 even after that final basket. In the previous game, she had 6 TOs and was -15. If you love Bentley so much, then get Reeve to sign her for the Lynx.
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EuroLeague:
http://www.womensbasketball247.com/2021/10/euroleague-round-4-october-27th/
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| In other naturalisation news that possibly no one other than me will care about, |
I have to say, as someone who’s been a Pac-12 wbb follower for some years now, it’s kinda weird to hear Leonard’s name come up in this context after basically having forgotten she existed since she became a pro (up until hearing her name mentioned in recent weeks). She was one of those players at Colorado who was good the whole time she was there, but just never turned into someone great. Flashy passer, quick & pesky defender, but her inefficiency at scoring the rock all but prevented her from getting a legit crack at the W. Has she become a competent shooter yet or nah? |
She shot 44% from the field last season with a load of threes (at 33%), so not terrible but not great considering the level. She's probably too good for the WBBL (British league) but London Lions are spending some money at the moment to try to compete in Europe. She's been getting headlines for her assist totals rather than her scoring, breaking her own record at the weekend with 22 in one game.
When they're healthy, this season she's playing alongside Holly Winterburn, Johannah Leedham, Azania Stewart and Chantel Charles, among others. Names that may ring a distant bell with NCAAW followers. |
Are you writing offseason columns other than the individual team breakdowns? I was kind of looking forward to the possibility of Holly Winterburn draft watch articles. After the Aina Ayuso pick, we can come up with all sorts of fun possible picks in the coming years. Can Sika Kone get Lydia Giomi drafted? |
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| Are you writing offseason columns other than the individual team breakdowns? I was kind of looking forward to the possibility of Holly Winterburn draft watch articles. After the Aina Ayuso pick, we can come up with all sorts of fun possible picks in the coming years. Can Sika Kone get Lydia Giomi drafted? |
I'll probably end up writing some stuff during the offseason - at the very least we're hoping to do Year 2 of our Mock Offseason - but draft profiles aren't really my thing. I struggle to see Winterburn as a WNBA player, but as with Leonard she's probably too good to be in the WBBL. Especially with that Euro passport she should be in a bigger league somewhere on the continent, but when you're young and have been bouncing around a bunch of places in recent years I imagine it's a lot more comfortable to be home. Plenty of time to make some money in future years (and for British women's basketball, I imagine Lions are paying pretty well). |
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Too bad. Thanks for the update!
