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blaase22
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Milks26
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But, I can envision the next convo surrounding the #1 & 2 picks being about who will have the best overall career. |
How many European players that didn’t go to an American college have consistently showed up to the WNBA? What makes Kuier different... maybe because she seems pretty westernized already?
Maybe all she really needed was to get drafted to the WNBA at #2, and now she can cash in. Probably playing in a EuroLeague team for sure next year with a 6-digit salary. She’s probably worth the gamble for Dallas, but who really knows unless you’ve thoroughly interviewed her and have psychic powers. |
Kuier will probably have less National team commitments (unless she can carry Finland to the Worlds and Olympics) compared to players from Spain, France, Italy and even Belgium.
It seems like she wants to give it a shot. Maybe she comes over and loves America maybe she gives it a shot and decides it is not for her. Dallas was the right team to take a chance with multiple high picks. |
Exactly. Even if she does carry Finland on the international stadium she's only 19 - still years away from that accomplishment.
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Milks26
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| Posted: 04/15/21 11:26 pm ::: |
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| So who’s making this team? |
They're bringing 14 into training camp. Only 12 survive.
I wish Jefferson could be one of them. It erks me that she has a protected contract?? She modeled the new uniforms for the team but, is healthy from her latest injury?
I'd hate to see Bella go. The kid has a future. But, its possible
Gustafson and Mabrey Yes, Mabrey did her thing last year - but was that a one hit wonder or what? (prefer Evans - true PG and Dungee over her).
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Cooper2009
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| Posted: 04/16/21 8:33 am ::: |
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Mabrey/Harris/Jefferson
Ogunbowale/Gray
Sabally/Thornton
Kuier/Alarie
Collier/Harrison
Last spot between Dungee and Evans
I want Jefferson gone.
Mabrey/Harris/Evans
Ogunbowale/Gray/Dungee
Sabally/Thornton
Kuier/Alarie
Collier/Harrison
Sabally with the ability to play the 4 and Gray with the ability to play the 3. All posts are versatile enough to play the 4 or 5. 3 people with the ability to play lead guard. This team in paper is a year or two away from contending if they remain together. Jefferson is not needed at all. It’s arguable that all of Jefferson, Thornton, and Harrison could be easily replaced.
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| Posted: 04/16/21 9:31 am ::: |
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Mabrey/Harris/Jefferson
Ogunbowale/Gray
Sabally/Thornton
Kuier/Alarie
Collier/Harrison
Last spot between Dungee and Evans
I want Jefferson gone.
Mabrey/Harris/Evans
Ogunbowale/Gray/Dungee
Sabally/Thornton
Kuier/Alarie
Collier/Harrison
Sabally with the ability to play the 4 and Gray with the ability to play the 3. All posts are versatile enough to play the 4 or 5. 3 people with the ability to play lead guard. This team in paper is a year or two away from contending if they remain together. Jefferson is not needed at all. It’s arguable that all of Jefferson, Thornton, and Harrison could be easily replaced. |
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Richyyy
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| Posted: 04/16/21 9:51 am ::: |
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| Technically, they could just cut Jefferson and keep the four draft picks (I'm also assuming Gustafson would be gone). But they're already paying Ndour 220k to not play for them over the next two years. Just waiving her would mean paying Jefferson over 355k to not play for them over the next two years (a buyout might save some of that). That's a staggering amount of cash - not to mention used up cap space - in WNBA terms. |
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Milks26
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| Posted: 04/16/21 10:08 am ::: |
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Whoever decided to give Jefferson and Ndour protected contracts - hell just bringing them to the squad should foot the bill.
By drafting PG Evans maybe they've finally seen the light on Jefferson. She stay hurt.
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okstateguy
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| Posted: 04/16/21 11:56 am ::: |
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I wonder if they could turn a package like:
Jefferson, Collier, and a 2022 1st rder for someone like Fowles or another veteran post who can anchor a defense and take some pressure off the young talent while they develop.
As much potential as Collier has, but she's probably 3rd in terms of upside of their young frontcourt players. Although they would have to be pretty confident Kuier was planning on showing up consistently to pull something like this.
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| Posted: 04/16/21 12:25 pm ::: |
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I wonder if they could turn a package like:
Jefferson, Collier, and a 2022 1st rounder for someone like Fowles or another veteran post who can anchor a defense and take some pressure off the young talent while they develop.
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DEAL! Let’s write this up!
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| Posted: 04/16/21 12:35 pm ::: |
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I wonder if they could turn a package like:
Jefferson, Collier, and a 2022 1st rounder for someone like Fowles or another veteran post who can anchor a defense and take some pressure off the young talent while they develop.
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DEAL! Let’s write this up! |
HEEEEELLL no lol Fowles has no more than 3 years left, we better keep all 22 first rounders. Jefferson and Collier for Fowles , BUT NO to the 22 first rounder. #Coveted
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Cooper2009
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| Posted: 04/16/21 3:53 pm ::: |
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I wonder if they could turn a package like:
Jefferson, Collier, and a 2022 1st rounder for someone like Fowles or another veteran post who can anchor a defense and take some pressure off the young talent while they develop.
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DEAL! Let’s write this up! |
HEEEEELLL no lol Fowles has no more than 3 years left, we better keep all 22 first rounders. Jefferson and Collier for Fowles , BUT NO to the 22 first rounder. #Coveted |
Let’s give up the 22 2nd rounder instead and see who bites lol
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Milks26
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| Posted: 04/16/21 9:22 pm ::: |
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I wonder if they could turn a package like:
Jefferson, Collier, and a 2022 1st rder for someone like Fowles or another veteran post who can anchor a defense and take some pressure off the young talent while they develop.
As much potential as Collier has, but she's probably 3rd in terms of upside of their young frontcourt players. Although they would have to be pretty confident Kuier was planning on showing up consistently to pull something like this. |
I'd bite to this
Jefferson, Collier, 2022 2nd & 3rd rounder.
I have a feeling a deal might happen somewhere. Johnson said she wanted a vet. Or has she changed her mind.
The youth need a leader.
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| Posted: 04/16/21 11:53 pm ::: |
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Good ridance. That jersey was ugly as hell.
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| Posted: 04/17/21 8:02 am ::: |
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| So who’s making this team? |
They're bringing 14 into training camp. Only 12 survive.
I wish Jefferson could be one of them. It erks me that she has a protected contract?? She modeled the new uniforms for the team but, is healthy from her latest injury?
I'd hate to see Bella go. The kid has a future. But, its possible
Gustafson and Mabrey Yes, Mabrey did her thing last year - but was that a one hit wonder or what? (prefer Evans - true PG and Dungee over her). |
I totally agree....those were my two cuts also!
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| Posted: 04/17/21 8:02 am ::: |
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| blaase22 wrote: |
| So who’s making this team? |
They're bringing 14 into training camp. Only 12 survive.
I wish Jefferson could be one of them. It erks me that she has a protected contract?? She modeled the new uniforms for the team but, is healthy from her latest injury?
I'd hate to see Bella go. The kid has a future. But, its possible
Gustafson and Mabrey Yes, Mabrey did her thing last year - but was that a one hit wonder or what? (prefer Evans - true PG and Dungee over her). |
I totally agree....those were my two cuts also!
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DFWub2018
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| Posted: 04/17/21 8:13 am ::: |
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Mabrey/Harris/Jefferson
Ogunbowale/Gray
Sabally/Thornton
Kuier/Alarie
Collier/Harrison
Last spot between Dungee and Evans
I want Jefferson gone.
Mabrey/Harris/Evans
Ogunbowale/Gray/Dungee
Sabally/Thornton
Kuier/Alarie
Collier/Harrison
Sabally with the ability to play the 4 and Gray with the ability to play the 3. All posts are versatile enough to play the 4 or 5. 3 people with the ability to play lead guard. This team in paper is a year or two away from contending if they remain together. Jefferson is not needed at all. It’s arguable that all of Jefferson, Thornton, and Harrison could be easily replaced. |
It want bother me to see either of: Jefferson, Megan, Thornton or Izzy gone...nothing personal, but I just don't see all that much of what they bring to the table that's franchise changing!!! Also, I just don't see Mabry beating out D. Evans for that last spot...unless I'm missing something?
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DFWub2018
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| Posted: 04/17/21 8:13 am ::: |
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Mabrey/Harris/Jefferson
Ogunbowale/Gray
Sabally/Thornton
Kuier/Alarie
Collier/Harrison
Last spot between Dungee and Evans
I want Jefferson gone.
Mabrey/Harris/Evans
Ogunbowale/Gray/Dungee
Sabally/Thornton
Kuier/Alarie
Collier/Harrison
Sabally with the ability to play the 4 and Gray with the ability to play the 3. All posts are versatile enough to play the 4 or 5. 3 people with the ability to play lead guard. This team in paper is a year or two away from contending if they remain together. Jefferson is not needed at all. It’s arguable that all of Jefferson, Thornton, and Harrison could be easily replaced. |
It want bother me to see either of: Jefferson, Megan, Thornton or Izzy gone...nothing personal, but I just don't see all that much of what they bring to the table that's franchise changing!!! Also, I just don't see Mabry beating out D. Evans for that last spot...unless I'm missing something?
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IM in OC
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| Posted: 04/17/21 8:17 am ::: |
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| So who’s making this team? |
They're bringing 14 into training camp. Only 12 survive.
I wish Jefferson could be one of them. It erks me that she has a protected contract?? She modeled the new uniforms for the team but, is healthy from her latest injury?
I'd hate to see Bella go. The kid has a future. But, its possible
Gustafson and Mabrey Yes, Mabrey did her thing last year - but was that a one hit wonder or what? (prefer Evans - true PG and Dungee over her). |
I totally agree....those were my two cuts also! |
Maybrey has stayed hot through her league games in Israel. Averages 33mpg and 23ppg(2nd in Israel in ppg). I dont know how good the Israel league is, and the team she is on did not not play in any Euro League or Euro Cup tournaments.
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DFWub2018
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| Posted: 04/17/21 8:20 am ::: |
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| okstateguy wrote: |
I wonder if they could turn a package like:
Jefferson, Collier, and a 2022 1st rounder for someone like Fowles or another veteran post who can anchor a defense and take some pressure off the young talent while they develop.
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DEAL! Let’s write this up! |
HEEEEELLL no lol Fowles has no more than 3 years left, we better keep all 22 first rounders. Jefferson and Collier for Fowles , BUT NO to the 22 first rounder. #Coveted |
All I could do was smh when I read it too!!!
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DFWub2018
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| Posted: 04/17/21 8:20 am ::: |
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| WNBA 09 wrote: |
| Shades wrote: |
| okstateguy wrote: |
I wonder if they could turn a package like:
Jefferson, Collier, and a 2022 1st rounder for someone like Fowles or another veteran post who can anchor a defense and take some pressure off the young talent while they develop.
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DEAL! Let’s write this up! |
HEEEEELLL no lol Fowles has no more than 3 years left, we better keep all 22 first rounders. Jefferson and Collier for Fowles , BUT NO to the 22 first rounder. #Coveted |
All I could do was smh when I read it too!!!
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Milks26
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| Posted: 04/17/21 10:37 am ::: |
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It want bother me to see either of: Jefferson, Megan, Thornton or Izzy gone...nothing personal, but I just don't see all that much of what they bring to the table that's franchise changing!!! Also, I just don't see Mabry beating out D. Evans for that last spot...unless I'm missing something? |
I'd only keep Thornton out of the bunch. Defense and she can shot the three and get to the rack.
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| DFWub2018 wrote: |
| Milks26 wrote: |
| blaase22 wrote: |
| So who’s making this team? |
They're bringing 14 into training camp. Only 12 survive.
I wish Jefferson could be one of them. It erks me that she has a protected contract?? She modeled the new uniforms for the team but, is healthy from her latest injury?
I'd hate to see Bella go. The kid has a future. But, its possible
Gustafson and Mabrey Yes, Mabrey did her thing last year - but was that a one hit wonder or what? (prefer Evans - true PG and Dungee over her). |
I totally agree....those were my two cuts also! |
Maybrey has stayed hot through her league games in Israel. Averages 33mpg and 23ppg(2nd in Israel in ppg). I dont know how good the Israel league is, and the team she is on did not not play in any Euro League or Euro Cup tournaments. |
I like what Mabrey did last year, but, she's not a true PG for any long term means. If they get rid of Jefferson by all means Mabrey is a good SG. But, Jefferson....
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| Posted: 04/17/21 11:43 am ::: |
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| Regarding Thornton: I think she had a place on this team until the end of last year when Gray IMO noticeably did everything on the court better than her. Unless Thornton upgraded her game somewhere this off season, I think she’s vulnerable. And if she does stay, I’m pretty certain that Gray will be the starting SF.
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| They gave Thornton a guaranteed extension this offseason. That runs through 2023. It's decent enough value that I guess they might be able to trade it if they wanted to, but I'd be stunned if she was cut. |
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| I love Thornton. Also A.Gray. And I don't think they bring the same things at all. They're both tough hard-nosed defenders but Thornton has enough size to guard bigger players and Alisha is a bit quicker for the smaller ones. With this lineup I think they may both play SF. I could see Sabally starting at PF just because of the lack of post depth. I don't know about Awak but Collier is only ready to start in the W in somebody's imagination. I think it would be disastrous not only for the team, but for her own confidence. Let her play some minutes against second stringers and maybe gain some of that confidence...if she can even perform against them.
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