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 Posted: 04/11/21 10:42 am ::: |
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| For those of you who like to compare such things; this year's final four featured two former P5 assistants on their first head coaching assignments, one former mid-major coach who moved up to a P5 job, and one P5 coach who was hired away from another P5 job.
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| Posted: 04/11/21 11:09 am ::: Re: Coaching Search Talk |
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Clark-Heard or Ashley Early. The rest of them are mid-majors and/or know what a horrendous mess Vandy is right now, being right down the road like Insell and the Belmont coach. I doubt Missouri State's Coach Mox would be interested in moving at the moment since she just got to a rising program.
It's going to take some kind of effort and possibly supernatural forces to return the program to anything like what it was under Jim Foster. Melanie Balcomb broke it and Steph White might be able to coach but couldn't recruit, or something. The program is badly broken.
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| Posted: 04/12/21 1:42 pm ::: |
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That could be a worse move for Ralph than Morgan Valley's, going from assistant at Arizona to head coach at Hartford. |
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| Posted: 04/12/21 3:20 pm ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
That could be a worse move for Ralph than Morgan Valley's, going from assistant at Arizona to head coach at Hartford. |
Speaking of Hartford, I saw where they had commissioned a study re: athletics as the school is really struggling financially in the wake of covid. The committee has recommended that they look at moving their athletic programs to Division III. The timing couldn't be worse as their men's basketball program just made their first ever trip to the NCAA Tournament.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't a LOT of schools looking into their options right about now.
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| Posted: 04/12/21 4:27 pm ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
That could be a worse move for Ralph than Morgan Valley's, going from assistant at Arizona to head coach at Hartford. |
Agree-this would be a terrible move for Shea, IMO.
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| Posted: 04/12/21 4:59 pm ::: |
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| GlennMacGrady wrote: |
That could be a worse move for Ralph than Morgan Valley's, going from assistant at Arizona to head coach at Hartford. |
Why? Just because Stephanie White did not win does not mean it isn't possible. It wasn't that long ago that Vanderbilt was consistent NCAA tournament team, and there are a lot of teams that have had way less success than Vanderbilt in women's basketball. For someone who has never been a head coach how picky do you really expect her to be? The best jobs will not hire her over successful head coaches so she has to start somewhere.
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| Posted: 04/12/21 6:54 pm ::: |
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| Shea could do well, or she could do poorly. Hard to know, since she's never been a HC, but she does come from a program that knows how to win. The question is whether she can build a staff and whether she can recruit. Vandy is very, very broken at this point and rebuilding it will be really difficult no matter who takes it over.
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| Posted: 04/13/21 7:26 am ::: |
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| summertime blues wrote: |
| Shea could do well, or she could do poorly. Hard to know, since she's never been a HC, but she does come from a program that knows how to win. The question is whether she can build a staff and whether she can recruit. Vandy is very, very broken at this point and rebuilding it will be really difficult no matter who takes it over. |
My concern is the style of play in the SEC. It's very gritty, defense-oriented, sometimes painful on offense, low scoring basketball. That's just not a system that Shea has been developed in. I think the style of play in the ACC or B1G are better suited for her. But, you can't beat living in Nashville. I hope she has a good 5-6 year run there, and then she comes back to take over UCONN.
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| Posted: 04/13/21 7:59 am ::: |
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| ucbart wrote: |
| summertime blues wrote: |
| Shea could do well, or she could do poorly. Hard to know, since she's never been a HC, but she does come from a program that knows how to win. The question is whether she can build a staff and whether she can recruit. Vandy is very, very broken at this point and rebuilding it will be really difficult no matter who takes it over. |
My concern is the style of play in the SEC. It's very gritty, defense-oriented, sometimes painful on offense, low scoring basketball. That's just not a system that Shea has been developed in. I think the style of play in the ACC or B1G are better suited for her. But, you can't beat living in Nashville. I hope she has a good 5-6 year run there, and then she comes back to take over UCONN. |
You really think Geno is going to last that long? I'm not so sure. I don't think he looks well, and he didn't look well before he had Covid. That is not wishful thinking. (I know you think I'm a hater, I'm not.) That is a trained eye.
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| Posted: 04/13/21 9:00 am ::: |
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| So, now that Shea to Vandy seems to be a done deal-who replaces Shea at UCONN?
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| Posted: 04/13/21 10:24 am ::: |
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We seem to have two threads going on the same coaching subject.
I'm surprised by Ralph's leaving UConn because I assumed she had the inside track as Geno's replacement from her assistant position. At Vanderbilt she faces the enormous task of rebuilding one of the worst programs (recently) in one of the toughest conferences. If she fails, and anyone could fail at such a difficult task, she'll lose both the Vanderbilt job after about five years and she'll also lose the opportunity to replace Geno.
Of course, if she succeeds well at Vandy, that could be taken as verification that she's a worthy successor to Geno at UConn if she wants to be. I guess she's decided to take that gamble.
Or maybe she's been told that she's unlikely to replace Geno for some reason, so she's taking her best opportunity now as a head coach.
It will be interesting to see who replaces Ralph, whether it's someone from inside or outside the UConn family. Ironically, the last UConn assistant, who just POOF disappeared into the ether in the middle of the 2019-20 season, was a Vanderbilt alum, Jasmine Lister. |
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| Posted: 04/13/21 11:01 am ::: |
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The other coaching thread should be for news because multiple times in prior years futureisbright has asked to keep that thread for news.
That's why I made this one for discussion and analysis of said coaching moves.
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