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GlennMacGrady
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"No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main" -- John Donne
I agree with and am on the same continent as Clay.
Of course, I'm somewhat biased in favor of KLS, having watched her in high school tournaments and every game at UConn. I watched her hit 10 threes in a row in a game, lead and feed the NCAA's best fast break, drive aggressively, and execute ambidextrous back-to-the-basket moves on the low blocks. Until her post-surgery senior season, she was considered by many to be the central player in UConn's offense with Collier a close second.
While I'm not entirely clear why she's been so unsuccessful in the WNBA, other than the mental health issues she's admitted, I am cautiously optimistic that the skills that made her an NPOY in high school, a star in USAB, and a three-time AA in college are still there and may emerge in Seattle.
I assume Hughes is impressed by her and that Stewart advocated for her:
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It went unmentioned that Whitcomb's contract is for 2 years protected at $150,350 each year.
Looks like New York was the team that wanted to shell out that kind of money for her, which seems less like bench-player money and more like starter money. Hope she gets that chance. Good for her that she got a good payday out of her best season last year. |
It looks more and more that Sami helped to get the Storm something in return for her and that she wanted a bigger role and paycheck somewhere else. Cant blame her. She earned it!
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It went unmentioned that Whitcomb's contract is for 2 years protected at $150,350 each year.
Looks like New York was the team that wanted to shell out that kind of money for her, which seems less like bench-player money and more like starter money. Hope she gets that chance. Good for her that she got a good payday out of her best season last year. |
It looks more and more that Sami helped to get the Storm something in return for her and that she wanted a bigger role and paycheck somewhere else. Cant blame her. She earned it! |
Yeah, it's like the Tuck and Banham deals last year - would've been an offer-sheet that the team didn't want to match, so they turned it into a sign-and-trade for something small instead. Gives New York the certainty that they're getting the player they want, and lets Seattle receive something rather than nothing. I like Talbot, but at 150k for two years, I'm a little surprised the Storm didn't just match it. Maybe they're worried about next year when Stewart, Loyd, Canada and Russell could all be out of contract and didn't think Whitcomb was worth committing that kind of money when the space could be needed. |
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It went unmentioned that Whitcomb's contract is for 2 years protected at $150,350 each year.
Looks like New York was the team that wanted to shell out that kind of money for her, which seems less like bench-player money and more like starter money. Hope she gets that chance. Good for her that she got a good payday out of her best season last year. |
It looks more and more that Sami helped to get the Storm something in return for her and that she wanted a bigger role and paycheck somewhere else. Cant blame her. She earned it! |
Yeah, it's like the Tuck and Banham deals last year - would've been an offer-sheet that the team didn't want to match, so they turned it into a sign-and-trade for something small instead. Gives New York the certainty that they're getting the player they want, and lets Seattle receive something rather than nothing. I like Talbot, but at 150k for two years, I'm a little surprised the Storm didn't just match it. Maybe they're worried about next year when Stewart, Loyd, Canada and Russell could all be out of contract and didn't think Whitcomb was worth committing that kind of money when the space could be needed. |
Yeah and a big difference with the signing of Prince is that it's not a guaranteed contract. So they have the option to waive her next season if they need extra money for Stewie, Loyd, Canada and Russell. Also depends on if Bird is going to play next season.
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| Again, while we'll find out, being better than 5 PPG on 41% shooting playing 20 minutes a night is not a high bar to clear for any 1st-rounder in virtually any Draft, let alone the top one. |
Ok, here me out on Lou; I may be a UCONN homer, but I want to.....not defend this, because this trade was a streeeeeeeeetch, for even the most blue bleeding Gampelson, but just, uh, hear me out.
Lou has 3 great qualities:
1. Smarts-she knows and can read the game pretty well. She rarely makes a bad decision
2. She can pass
3. She can shoot-more importantly, she can shoot at her height.
I actually think Seattle, with a system like they have in place, might be somewhere Lou could actually flourish. Chicago never should've drafted her. Sorry, that was their mistake, not Lou's. And honestly, nobody with Lou's game will ever flourish on the same team as Ogunnerbuwale, because there is no system. This is no knock on Arike, because she is a great player, but she is option 1, 2, and 3 and the ball doesn't leave her hands much.
Now that I've given you what she can do, I'm going to tell you why she hasn't, which also could lead to why this trade will be a disaster of epic proportions. Lou is a basketball player, but a not super-athletic one. Players who've had a huge amount of success right away are athletic ones. Can she get more athletic? Nope. But can she gain more maturity, feel for the game, and smarts as she becomes a veteran? Yes. If she finds a team where she can grow and maximize her strengths, I think she might be ok. I mean, she is a 6'3" player whose greatest strength is shooting the 3.
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I'm drunk with giddiness because I own a restaurant in NY and after being closed for a total of almost 5 months between two shut downs, finally opened back up yesterday, hopefully for good this time.
Ok-that's all, don't abuse me too much. HA
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| Posted: 02/11/21 9:09 am ::: |
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| Again, while we'll find out, being better than 5 PPG on 41% shooting playing 20 minutes a night is not a high bar to clear for any 1st-rounder in virtually any Draft, let alone the top one. |
Ok, here me out on Lou; I may be a UCONN homer, but I want to.....not defend this, because this trade was a streeeeeeeeetch, for even the most blue bleeding Gampelson, but just, uh, hear me out.
Lou has 3 great qualities:
1. Smarts-she knows and can read the game pretty well. She rarely makes a bad decision
2. She can pass
3. She can shoot-more importantly, she can shoot at her height.
I actually think Seattle, with a system like they have in place, might be somewhere Lou could actually flourish. Chicago never should've drafted her. Sorry, that was their mistake, not Lou's. And honestly, nobody with Lou's game will ever flourish on the same team as Ogunnerbuwale, because there is no system. This is no knock on Arike, because she is a great player, but she is option 1, 2, and 3 and the ball doesn't leave her hands much.
Now that I've given you what she can do, I'm going to tell you why she hasn't, which also could lead to why this trade will be a disaster of epic proportions. Lou is a basketball player, but a not super-athletic one. Players who've had a huge amount of success right away are athletic ones. Can she get more athletic? Nope. But can she gain more maturity, feel for the game, and smarts as she becomes a veteran? Yes. If she finds a team where she can grow and maximize her strengths, I think she might be ok. I mean, she is a 6'3" player whose greatest strength is shooting the 3.
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I'm drunk with giddiness because I own a restaurant in NY and after being closed for a total of almost 5 months between two shut downs, finally opened back up yesterday, hopefully for good this time.
Ok-that's all, don't abuse me too much. HA |
She can handle minutes at the PF position but she is too slow IMO for the SF position. So maybe they will go with the big line-up whenever she is on the court and let Stewie chase SF's around on the perimeter.
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| Again, while we'll find out, being better than 5 PPG on 41% shooting playing 20 minutes a night is not a high bar to clear for any 1st-rounder in virtually any Draft, let alone the top one. |
Ok, here me out on Lou; I may be a UCONN homer, but I want to.....not defend this, because this trade was a streeeeeeeeetch, for even the most blue bleeding Gampelson, but just, uh, hear me out.
Lou has 3 great qualities:
1. Smarts-she knows and can read the game pretty well. She rarely makes a bad decision
2. She can pass
3. She can shoot-more importantly, she can shoot at her height.
I actually think Seattle, with a system like they have in place, might be somewhere Lou could actually flourish. Chicago never should've drafted her. Sorry, that was their mistake, not Lou's. And honestly, nobody with Lou's game will ever flourish on the same team as Ogunnerbuwale, because there is no system. This is no knock on Arike, because she is a great player, but she is option 1, 2, and 3 and the ball doesn't leave her hands much.
Now that I've given you what she can do, I'm going to tell you why she hasn't, which also could lead to why this trade will be a disaster of epic proportions. Lou is a basketball player, but a not super-athletic one. Players who've had a huge amount of success right away are athletic ones. Can she get more athletic? Nope. But can she gain more maturity, feel for the game, and smarts as she becomes a veteran? Yes. If she finds a team where she can grow and maximize her strengths, I think she might be ok. I mean, she is a 6'3" player whose greatest strength is shooting the 3.
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I'm drunk with giddiness because I own a restaurant in NY and after being closed for a total of almost 5 months between two shut downs, finally opened back up yesterday, hopefully for good this time.
Ok-that's all, don't abuse me too much. HA |
She can handle minutes at the PF position but she is too slow IMO for the SF position. So maybe they will go with the big line-up whenever she is on the court and let Stewie chase SF's around on the perimeter. |
Seattle obviously had no problem with carrying much more one trick pony KML on their roster for years. KLS is a much better athlete and defender than KML ever was. Seattle must value a spot up 3 point specialist enough to carry KML for all these years. No other team would have done so with the defensive baggage she had.
In contrast KLS is a much better option. She is a better defender and does have some skills beyond just being a catch and shoot player. Its all about how a team will use a player and seattle obviousely has a use for her type of skill set. So KLS probably has more value to their team than she would have anywhere else.
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| Again, while we'll find out, being better than 5 PPG on 41% shooting playing 20 minutes a night is not a high bar to clear for any 1st-rounder in virtually any Draft, let alone the top one. |
Ok, here me out on Lou; I may be a UCONN homer, but I want to.....not defend this, because this trade was a streeeeeeeeetch, for even the most blue bleeding Gampelson, but just, uh, hear me out.
Lou has 3 great qualities:
1. Smarts-she knows and can read the game pretty well. She rarely makes a bad decision
2. She can pass
3. She can shoot-more importantly, she can shoot at her height.
I actually think Seattle, with a system like they have in place, might be somewhere Lou could actually flourish. Chicago never should've drafted her. Sorry, that was their mistake, not Lou's. And honestly, nobody with Lou's game will ever flourish on the same team as Ogunnerbuwale, because there is no system. This is no knock on Arike, because she is a great player, but she is option 1, 2, and 3 and the ball doesn't leave her hands much.
Now that I've given you what she can do, I'm going to tell you why she hasn't, which also could lead to why this trade will be a disaster of epic proportions. Lou is a basketball player, but a not super-athletic one. Players who've had a huge amount of success right away are athletic ones. Can she get more athletic? Nope. But can she gain more maturity, feel for the game, and smarts as she becomes a veteran? Yes. If she finds a team where she can grow and maximize her strengths, I think she might be ok. I mean, she is a 6'3" player whose greatest strength is shooting the 3.
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I'm drunk with giddiness because I own a restaurant in NY and after being closed for a total of almost 5 months between two shut downs, finally opened back up yesterday, hopefully for good this time.
Ok-that's all, don't abuse me too much. HA |
She can handle minutes at the PF position but she is too slow IMO for the SF position. So maybe they will go with the big line-up whenever she is on the court and let Stewie chase SF's around on the perimeter. |
Seattle obviously had no problem with carrying much more one trick pony KML on their roster for years. KLS is a much better athlete and defender than KML ever was. Seattle must value a spot up 3 point specialist enough to carry KML for all these years. No other team would have done so with the defensive baggage she had.
In contrast KLS is a much better option. She is a better defender and does have some skills beyond just being a catch and shoot player. Its all about how a team will use a player and seattle obviousely has a use for her type of skill set. So KLS probably has more value to their team than she would have anywhere else. |
And I’m willing to bet Stewie advocated, or at least put in a good word for her. Seattle lost a majority of its shooting, so adding KLS adds someone who is capable of hitting those shots. I’d say this is a very good spot for her to succeed, it’s really up to her to take advantage of it.
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Dallas has been a bad non playoff team. Katie Lou, on the Wings depth chart, figured to be #9-12, or maybe out. I can think of no W roster where she would be close to a starter. How can this kind of player be worth the top pick in any draft????
Seattle has just lost two of the top defenders in the league (Howard/Clark), and management response has been to add Dupree and KL, two of the worst defenders anywhere. It is almost like they want to resurrect the pre-2018 teams characterized by good offense but poor rebounding/defense. Has Boucek returned????
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Dallas has been a bad non playoff team. Katie Lou, on the Wings depth chart, figured to be #9-12, or maybe out. I can think of no W roster where she would be close to a starter. How can this kind of player be worth the top pick in any draft????
Seattle has just lost two of the top defenders in the league (Howard/Clark), and management response has been to add Dupree and KL, two of the worst defenders anywhere. It is almost like they want to resurrect the pre-2018 teams characterized by good offense but poor rebounding/defense. Has Boucek returned???? |
So Seattle needs to win now -- an inexperienced college player in a very weak draft (at the top) will not help the Storm at all.
KLS is a good passer and despite her struggles from three, there's reason to believe she could be a good three-point shooter.
She's a bad defender, but Seattle can do a couple things with her: 1) A 2-3 zone with Russell, Stewart and KLS on the bottom; 2) Have her play the four when Russell or Stewart sit; 3) Find minutes for her when Bird is on the bench and hide her on the opponent's worst perimeter player.
I don't know that Seattle could have done any of those things with the potential top pick in the draft, and again, the Storm need to take full advantage of Bird's rapidly dwindling time in the league.
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| Again, while we'll find out, being better than 5 PPG on 41% shooting playing 20 minutes a night is not a high bar to clear for any 1st-rounder in virtually any Draft, let alone the top one. |
Lou has 3 great qualities:
1. Smarts-she knows and can read the game pretty well. She rarely makes a bad decision
2. She can pass
3. She can shoot-more importantly, she can shoot at her height.
I actually think Seattle, with a system like they have in place, might be somewhere Lou could actually flourish.
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I'm drunk with giddiness because I own a restaurant in NY and after being closed for a total of almost 5 months between two shut downs, finally opened back up yesterday, hopefully for good this time.
Ok-that's all, don't abuse me too much. HA |
Congrats!! 
As for KLS, I hope you’re right. I think given their roster construction, she has a chance to play a lot of minutes and hopefully succeed.
Seattle is probably banking on her Americup national team as well as college success.
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| Dream trading their lottery pick (DD) for IMS should rank up their too. Dream trading another lottery pick (which could have been J. Jones) for EWill sucked as well. |
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| The funny thing is that, looking at the Dallas roster with all those first round picks coming this year, it is not clear Katie Lou would make the team, but it is simple math that is mind boggling. NY takes the #6 pick in this year's draft for Nurse and Walker while Seattle gives up #1 for KL. Does this mean that KL is much better than the combo Walker/Nurse.....What am I missing??? |
NY also received PHX's 1st round 2022 pick for Walker/Nurse, no?...
Does anyone know if the various trades were executed separately or if they were contingent on each other?
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| The funny thing is that, looking at the Dallas roster with all those first round picks coming this year, it is not clear Katie Lou would make the team, but it is simple math that is mind boggling. NY takes the #6 pick in this year's draft for Nurse and Walker while Seattle gives up #1 for KL. Does this mean that KL is much better than the combo Walker/Nurse.....What am I missing??? |
NY also received PHX's 1st round 2022 pick for Walker/Nurse, no?...
Does anyone know if the various trades were executed separately or if they were contingent on each other? |
Based on the timing of the announcements and everything I have read since, it sounds like the Howard trade involved NY, Seattle, and Phoenix. So I assume Howard, Walker, Nurse, Phoenix's draft picks, and NY's draft pick was one trade.
Talbot-Whitcomb was a separate trade. It sounds like Whitcomb got paid, so I would guess that she knew the Storm would trade her.
The Harrigan trade was probably separate.
The KLS trade was separate.
It's entirely possible, though, that Seattle had Dallas on the line before executing the Howard trade or that other discussions were going on between teams. Who knows.
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Officially, the Liberty made three trades yesterday. NY's trade with Phoenix was completed first: Nurse and Walker for the two 1st Round picks. Then, NY used the Phoenix 2022 pick in the Howard trade.
The Talbot for Whitcomb transaction came last. As far as I can tell, a sign-and-trade was unnecessary. Whitcomb got a lot of money, but it was well below max. She and the Liberty gained nothing from the sign-and-trade. If Sami had simply signed an offer sheet, I doubt the Storm would have matched. They can probably afford her this year, but next season they have to deal with a huge raise for Loyd and sizeable raises for Stewart and Canada. There's also the question of whether they actually wanted to give all that money to Whitcomb because it sets a precedent for future contract negotiations. Therefore, I don't think Seattle would have matched, and Sami would have left for nothing in return. However, the Storm were lucky that the Liberty have too many players. Extra players get cut, so why not offer Talbot if it guarantees that the Storm don't match? So, the Liberty paid even though they probably didn't have to, and the Storm got to call the whole transaction a trade. So really Storm fans, you did better than you think you did.
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Thanks for the clarification regarding the NY-Phoenix trade. Someone on FB implied that Dallas was involved with the Howard trade and Seattle never actually had the #1 pick. Seattle's 4 transactions, however, each seemed separate.
I was wondering about the Whitcomb sign-and-trade as well. The contract is clearly what NY thinks she is worth--not what Seattle thinks she is worth (because we have Loyd). So why wouldn't NY giver her an offer sheet with the odds that the Storm wouldn't match? Whitcomb is a fan favorite (and I can almost guarantee that she will be in NY too), but once you take the emotion out of it - you're right. Talbot's rights were something for nothing. Furthermore, Howard reportedly asked for a trade (or at least indicated a desire a larger role, elsewhere), so I get the Storm blowing up the chance for a dynasty in favor of long term plans.
It sucks to lose Howard, Clark, and Whitcomb. I hope they each got what they wanted, and if so, I'm happy for them. I'll get over losing them. What gets me is that we should have done better in exchange for Howard.
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Like I said, the Howard trade was about what I expected, and now that Talbot has signed a contract and we know the terms of Whitcomb’s contract, I can accept that too. The #1 Pick trade remains inexcusable, especially in the wake of signing Talbot and Tamera Young, even if they are only on training camp contracts. We needed a sturdy, physical SF with either defensive acumen or potential who can still stay healthy. We got the exact opposite of that in Samuelson, who is both offense-oriented and injury-prone. Our front office has to think her ceiling is pretty high, but I’m skeptical of even that. If for whatever reason she can’t meet their expectations and be able to contribute, it could very well go down as the worst trade in WNBA history (or at least bottom 3/5). #1 Picks no matter how weak a Draft is aren’t exactly known to flame out of this League.
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Several of the deals would've been interconnected even if they were technically announced as separate deals. Often, Team X will tell Team Y who or what they want to agree to a deal, and then Team Y has to start making calls to try to get whatever it is so that they can make the deal happen. Seattle obviously will have known about New York making a deal with Phoenix yesterday, because the Phoenix 2022 pick was part of the next deal. They'll probably also have had an idea what was involved on either side, as Nurse was likely offered to them first.
It's the ones on the end, like the KLS deal yesterday, that the other teams might not be aware of, because there's no need for anyone outside the two teams involved to hear any of the details. But a lot of the head coaches and GMs in this league talk to each other a lot. There are usually whispers of things floating around before they happen, even if there isn't certainty. |
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Thanks for the clarification regarding the NY-Phoenix trade. Someone on FB implied that Dallas was involved with the Howard trade and Seattle never actually had the #1 pick. Seattle's 4 transactions, however, each seemed separate.
I was wondering about the Whitcomb sign-and-trade as well. The contract is clearly what NY thinks she is worth--not what Seattle thinks she is worth (because we have Loyd). So why wouldn't NY giver her an offer sheet with the odds that the Storm wouldn't match? Whitcomb is a fan favorite (and I can almost guarantee that she will be in NY too), but once you take the emotion out of it - you're right. Talbot's rights were something for nothing. Furthermore, Howard reportedly asked for a trade (or at least indicated a desire a larger role, elsewhere), so I get the Storm blowing up the chance for a dynasty in favor of long term plans.
It sucks to lose Howard, Clark, and Whitcomb. I hope they each got what they wanted, and if so, I'm happy for them. I'll get over losing them. What gets me is that we should have done better in exchange for Howard. |
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As a UCONN fan, don't hate the college! Storm fans don't you love Stewie and Sue!? I never drank the KLS kool-aid and I'm still disgusted with how she and her mom harassed the Chicago coach a few years ago. She didn't do anything on a not-so-good Dallas team either so the Sky coach looks like a genius retroactively for keeping her on the bench.
Is the Storm purposely imploding!?
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