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[jammerbirdi]

Okay. But it shouldn’t be impossible to get a ballpark figure. How about taking the total money in the bill and start subtracting Saudi Arabia etc and see what’s left.

Still, how can the Washington Post get away with this sloppy telling of it?

“Some blamed Trump for torpedoing a $900 billion relief package at the last minute. Others agreed with Trump that the proposed $600 checks for over 150 million American households was too little, too late and should be raised to at least $2,000.”

$600 x 150 million is $90 billion dollars. Those two sentences together are very confusing.

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[Ex-Ref]

They really need to fix this. $600 per adult (based on income) and $600 per child under 17 is crazy!

People with no kids under 17 are getting screwed more than they normally do.

The woman across the street from me will be getting $600. That's it. The people beside her will be getting $4,200!!!!!!! You can't tell me that the standard cost of living for them is that much more.

She can't even make her mortgage payment with the $600. They can make their mortgage payment, car payment, buy new clothes, new phones and take a small vacation!!!

It's so wrong.

They need to do something like $2,000 to each household and then a couple hundred for each additional person.

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[calbearman76]

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[jammerbirdi]

Signing off on the above.

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[mercfan3]

The House passed the $2,000 increase today. Again, blame the actual people responsible.

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[J-Spoon]

Considering the leaders of the house knew they had the votes for a stand alone stimulus bill for $2,000 why did they wait until December 28th to vote on it?

They could have easily passed the same thing they passed today months ago as a stand alone bill and forced the Senate to vote on it or shut it down allowing the Republicans to take the blame, why didn't they do that?

A) A stand alone bill wouldn't contain all the other funding for the things they desired that were unrelated to the stand alone bill.

B) Trump might have thrown his weight behind it and forced Republican senators to support it or face the wrath of his base and that could have helped his election cause.

C) House leadership was so out of touch with the people that they weren't aware how bad the suffering was and therefor it never crossed their mind to approach stimulus issues in the way they are now.

D) all of the above.

I hope the 2000 dollars goes through (I am not sure it will) but I am not going to applaud House leadership for putting this through on December 28th only after their hand was forced by of all people President Trump. There may be degrees of where blame should be placed, and I realize McConnell is pure evil, but again why wasn't this (and many other stimulus related issues; eviction moratorium, payroll protection, food insecurity support, funding for vaccine roll out and testing, etc) put through as a stand alone bills months ago when it was clear that the larger packages were never going to get through?

And by the same token if we are not to assign some blame to house leadership for not doing that, then are we supposed to give the lion share of the credit if the $2000 checks do go through to Trump?

[DivaORcat16]

So, this all seems a little (or a lot) crazy to me. People are losing a week of unemployment benefits but are now getting the $600. They aren't actually gaining much.

And, I REALLY don't agree with the bump to 2,000 for EACH PERSON in a household. There should be a cap if that larger amount actually goes through. I know some people are struggling but it sounds like the government has no measures in place to control who actually should get the help other than by income. Example: my parents and MIL who are all retired (Social Security and pensions) got the last round of payments for $1200 each that they just stuck away.

[FrozenLVFan]

NH is getting $2B from this package, and some of the funds are earmarked for state fisheries and airports.

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[Hawkeye]

The bill gets to 900 billion. Not all the money goes to people.

https://www.ncsl.org/ncsl-in-dc/publications-and-resources/covid-19-economic-relief-bill-stimulus.aspx

[tfan]

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-covid-19-death-toll-is-even-worse-than-it-looks-11610636840?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/EvBl8Fd4AY

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Where were we? Oh yes, $1400 for every person in the US would be about $460 billion. With the exclusions and income cutoffs, it's going to be about $200 billion. So naturally the Dems are allocating $1.9 trillion to placate all their special interests...

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[FrozenLVFan]

Sometime in the past 24 hours, we reached 500K deaths. That's half a million deaths in the US. Despite all the numbers that have been thrown at us in the past year, I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around this one. COVID is now the leading cause of death in the US, surpassing heart disease, cancer, etc.

Half a million deaths. And half of that number have occurred since Thanksgiving when the holiday spike started. Unbelievable.

[jammerbirdi]

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