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hyperetic
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Silky Johnson
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Posted: 09/13/20 12:35 am ::: |
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I mean, if Popovich is determined to let Tim Duncan "jump the line" (as he appears to be), then she might as well start looking elsewhere.
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Stormeo
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Posted: 09/13/20 1:12 am ::: |
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Pacers are reportedly considering several candidates. So, not to be completely pessimistic, but at what point do 'we' not consider Hammon being on the big list as a "token interview" when she inevitably doesn't end up landing the job? Would she simply just have to be announced as a final candidate for there to be no outcries of it, even if/when she doesn't get the job anyway?
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mercfan3
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Posted: 09/13/20 5:08 pm ::: |
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Stormeo wrote: |
Pacers are reportedly considering several candidates. So, not to be completely pessimistic, but at what point do 'we' not consider Hammon being on the big list as a "token interview" when she inevitably doesn't end up landing the job? Would she simply just have to be announced as a final candidate for there to be no outcries of it, even if/when she doesn't get the job anyway? |
The thing is, she's been a Pop assistant for years now. Pop's assistants get interviews. She shouldn't be considered a "token."
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hyperetic
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Posted: 09/16/20 8:55 am ::: |
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Stormeo wrote: |
Pacers are reportedly considering several candidates. So, not to be completely pessimistic, but at what point do 'we' not consider Hammon being on the big list as a "token interview" when she inevitably doesn't end up landing the job? Would she simply just have to be announced as a final candidate for there to be no outcries of it, even if/when she doesn't get the job anyway? |
Unfortunately, even IF she makes the final list and actually gets the job, to many she will still be considered just a token, a demographic filler, an equal opportunity rep. Her skill, experience, accomplishments and accolades won't be enough to convince them otherwise. |
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Michelle89
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Posted: 09/17/20 4:01 am ::: |
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hyperetic wrote: |
Stormeo wrote: |
Pacers are reportedly considering several candidates. So, not to be completely pessimistic, but at what point do 'we' not consider Hammon being on the big list as a "token interview" when she inevitably doesn't end up landing the job? Would she simply just have to be announced as a final candidate for there to be no outcries of it, even if/when she doesn't get the job anyway? |
Unfortunately, even IF she makes the final list and actually gets the job, to many she will still be considered just a token, a demographic filler, an equal opportunity rep. Her skill, experience, accomplishments and accolades won't be enough to convince them otherwise. |
Then its up to her to prove them wrong..
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 09/17/20 1:17 pm ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
hyperetic wrote: |
Stormeo wrote: |
Pacers are reportedly considering several candidates. So, not to be completely pessimistic, but at what point do 'we' not consider Hammon being on the big list as a "token interview" when she inevitably doesn't end up landing the job? Would she simply just have to be announced as a final candidate for there to be no outcries of it, even if/when she doesn't get the job anyway? |
Unfortunately, even IF she makes the final list and actually gets the job, to many she will still be considered just a token, a demographic filler, an equal opportunity rep. Her skill, experience, accomplishments and accolades won't be enough to convince them otherwise. |
Then its up to her to prove them wrong.. |
I disagree. It's up to us to challenge the narrowminded bigots.
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hyperetic
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Posted: 09/20/20 10:48 pm ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
hyperetic wrote: |
Stormeo wrote: |
Pacers are reportedly considering several candidates. So, not to be completely pessimistic, but at what point do 'we' not consider Hammon being on the big list as a "token interview" when she inevitably doesn't end up landing the job? Would she simply just have to be announced as a final candidate for there to be no outcries of it, even if/when she doesn't get the job anyway? |
Unfortunately, even IF she makes the final list and actually gets the job, to many she will still be considered just a token, a demographic filler, an equal opportunity rep. Her skill, experience, accomplishments and accolades won't be enough to convince them otherwise. |
Then its up to her to prove them wrong.. |
When someone has already made up their mind about you "come hell or high water" no amount of "proof" will be enough. Better to say %$#@ them and keep striving to be the best you can be for yourself. |
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pilight
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Posted: 10/21/20 9:53 am ::: |
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The Pacers have hired Nate Bjorkgren as head coach. He started as an assistant in the NBA in 2015, the year after Hammon started.
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Richyyy
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Posted: 10/21/20 10:08 am ::: |
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pilight wrote: |
The Pacers have hired Nate Bjorkgren as head coach. He started as an assistant in the NBA in 2015, the year after Hammon started. |
With over a decade of coaching experience in high school and the G-League (mostly as a head coach) before that. To be fair. |
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Posted: 10/21/20 3:19 pm ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
The Pacers have hired Nate Bjorkgren as head coach. He started as an assistant in the NBA in 2015, the year after Hammon started. |
With over a decade of coaching experience in high school and the G-League (mostly as a head coach) before that. To be fair. |
And a huge endorsement from Nurse as his right-hand man.
In no way was Hammon more qualified.
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Davis4632
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Posted: 10/21/20 11:59 pm ::: |
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For such a hot commodity, I never heard him until he got the job. At least he isn't a retread.
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johnjohnW
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Posted: 10/22/20 5:51 am ::: |
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Would becoming head couch of a G League team be considered a step down for Hammon? I feel like she has to take another step to get over the hump in these considerations. I think she deserves a shot. I just hope she's smart and doesn't take on a sinking ship that will tank her career and get her fired after 2 seasons.
I wonder if she took, say, the Dallas Wings job and got them to the finals in one season, of she could parlay that into a NBA gig? Doubtful.
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Shades
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Posted: 10/22/20 9:48 am ::: |
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johnjohnW wrote: |
Would becoming head couch of a G League team be considered a step down for Hammon? |
I would say so. Nancy Lieberman went from coaching G League ten years ago to assistant coaching at Sacramento now.
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I think she deserves a shot. I just hope she's smart and doesn't take on a sinking ship that will tank her career and get her fired after 2 seasons. |
The owner of the Lynx/Timberwolves has always been about giving women opportunities. Coaching the Wolves might be a good opportunity for her since the Wolves can’t really get any worse. Trouble is they’re now stuck in the Flip Saunders son coaching era.
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I wonder if she took, say, the Dallas Wings job and got them to the finals in one season, of she could parlay that into a NBA gig? Doubtful. |
Laimbeer thought he could do that. Didn’t seem to help him. He started at the NBA assistant level. Didn’t work out for him. He seemed to give up easy.
I hope Hammon stays the course.
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pilight
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Posted: 10/22/20 10:40 am ::: |
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Richyyy wrote: |
pilight wrote: |
The Pacers have hired Nate Bjorkgren as head coach. He started as an assistant in the NBA in 2015, the year after Hammon started. |
With over a decade of coaching experience in high school and the G-League (mostly as a head coach) before that. To be fair. |
Almost two decades of playing at a high professional level balances that out
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hyperetic
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Posted: 10/22/20 5:38 pm ::: |
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Stormeo
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Posted: 10/22/20 6:13 pm ::: |
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So Hammon gets another interview. Well, Gregg Popovich is 71. She's still probably better off waiting for him to call it quits and hand the team over to her. And even then, that scenario is light years apart from a guarantee...
Although I will say, I would hate for her to get the open Thunder job. I will never in my lifetime root for the Thunder – even after the Sonics get inevitably revived.
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Michelle89
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Posted: 10/23/20 1:16 am ::: |
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Stormeo wrote: |
So Hammon gets another interview. Well, Gregg Popovich is 71. She's still probably better off waiting for him to call it quits and hand the team over to her. And even then, that scenario is light years apart from a guarantee...
Although I will say, I would hate for her to get the open Thunder job. I will never in my lifetime root for the Thunder – even after the Sonics get inevitably revived. |
Not going to happen when Tim Duncan is also in the mix
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Bob Lamm
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Posted: 10/23/20 9:57 am ::: |
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Michelle89 wrote: |
Stormeo wrote: |
So Hammon gets another interview. Well, Gregg Popovich is 71. She's still probably better off waiting for him to call it quits and hand the team over to her. And even then, that scenario is light years apart from a guarantee...
Although I will say, I would hate for her to get the open Thunder job. I will never in my lifetime root for the Thunder – even after the Sonics get inevitably revived. |
Not going to happen when Tim Duncan is also in the mix |
Sadly, I agree. Given all we've seen, there is absolutely no reason to believe that Gregg Popovich will "hand the team over" to Becky Hammon rather than Tim Duncan. And surely Hammon is well aware of this by now. She is better off going for any good head coaching job, including in college basketball, right now. When Popovich retires and Duncan becomes head coach, it probably would be very awkward for Hammon to continue as an assistant there under Duncan--the guy promoted over her.
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Posted: 11/15/20 3:47 pm ::: |
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That's so awesome. It's a shame the Stars no longer exist. It really sucks how so much of this league's history ceases to exist because of the relocation carousel.
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PUmatty
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