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PostPosted: 09/12/20 12:05 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

2019
WAS 26-8
IND 13-21
DAL 10-24
NYL 10-24
ATL 8-26

2020
WAS* 7-13
ATL 7-14
DAL 7-14
IND 6-15
NYL 2-18

2019+2020
WAS* 33-21 (Can do no better than 4th best odds at #1 pick)
IND 19-36 (Can do no better than 3rd best odds of #1 pick)
DAL 17-38 (Locked up 3rd best odds of #1 pick should they not make playoffs)
ATL 15-40 (Locked up 2nd best odds of #1 pick should they not make playoffs)
NYL 12-42 (Locked up best odds of #1 pick)

Current lottery team
* WAS first round pick in 2021 owned by DAL in three-team Tina Charles trade.

Remaining games
WAS: NYL, ATL
ATL: WAS
DAL: NYL
IND: MIN
NYL: WAS, DAL

Still three teams left battling for that one last playoff spot.



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PostPosted: 09/12/20 12:14 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
DFWub2018 wrote:
WNBA 09 wrote:
Ill Take Collier , and im sure she's already aware of her draft status as she has already made comments about the new money and how enticing early entry could be .


I second this opinion 🤓


I know NY just got Ionescu but Dallas is way better off then NY atm, could we have one more #1 pick and draft Collier? Please! Thanks.

PS Dallas is probably a prime location for a major free agent acquisition next year. They have a nice core, a good coach, throw in one top shelf free agent and up to three high draft picks in 21 (4 (wash),5 and 7 (Chi) it looks like) and they will be contender-is.


Damn, I hope you're right!!!


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PostPosted: 09/12/20 12:38 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

Shades wrote:
2019
WAS 26-8
IND 13-21
DAL 10-24
NYL 10-24
ATL 8-26

2020
DAL 7-14
ATL 7-14
WAS* 7-13
IND 6-15
NYL 2-18

2019+2020
WAS* 33-21 (Can do no better than 4th best odds at #1 pick)
IND 19-36 (Can do no better than 3rd best odds of #1 pick)
DAL 17-38 (Locked up 3rd best odds of #1 pick should they not make playoffs)
ATL 15-40 (Locked up 2nd best odds of #1 pick should they not make playoffs)
NYL 12-42 (Locked up best odds of #1 pick)

Current lottery team
* WAS first round pick in 2021 owned by DAL in three-team Tina Charles trade.

Remaining games
DAL: NYL
WAS: NYL, ATL
IND: MIN
ATL: WAS
NYL: WAS, DAL


Still three teams left battling for that one last playoff spot, but I believe DAL is in with a win over NYL.


Washington has control of their own destiny. The Mystics have 2 games left one against NY and one against Atl, if they win both they have 9 wins.

Both Dallas and Atlanta only have one remaining game so 8 is the highest possible win total they can have in 2020.

Washington is also in if they beat Atl and both Washington and Dallas lose to NY as Washington would have 8 wins and both Atl and Dallas would only have 7

If Washington only beats NY and Atl beats Washington and Dallas beats NY all 3 teams have 8 wins. I assume Dallas would win the tie breaker.

If Washington beats NY, Dallas loses to NY and Atl beats Washington then both Washington and Atl have 8 wins while Dallas has 7, I am not sure who wins the tie break then

There is no way all three teams can end with 7 wins because Washington and Atl play each other

Atlanta can also make the playoffs if they beat Washington and both Dallas and Washington lose to NY, so good luck with that Atlanta


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PostPosted: 09/13/20 8:35 am    ::: Reply Reply with quote

2019
WAS 26-8
IND 13-21
DAL 10-24
NYL 10-24
ATL 8-26

2020
WAS* 8-13
ATL 7-14
DAL 7-14
IND 6-16
NYL 2-19

2019+2020
WAS* 34-21 (Can do no better than 4th best odds at #1 pick)
IND 19-37 (Can do no better than 3rd best odds of #1 pick)
DAL 17-38 (Locked up 3rd best odds of #1 pick should they not make playoffs)
ATL 15-40 (Locked up 2nd best odds of #1)
NYL 12-43 (Locked up best odds of #1 pick)

Current lottery team
* WAS first round pick in 2021 owned by DAL in three-team Tina Charles trade.

Remaining games
WAS: ATL
ATL: WAS
DAL: NYL
NYL: DAL



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PostPosted: 09/13/20 9:37 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GEF34 wrote:
root_thing wrote:
GEF34 wrote:

If teams/GMs had to redo those drafts Monique Billings and Kennedy Burke might not fall as low as they did.


Probably true, but it would move them up a few picks -- not all the way to lottery level. Billings went #15 and Burke #22. Let's move them up half a dozen slots to #9 and #16. Multiple people have suggested that Onyenwere should be the #1 overall pick. So, if someone who normally gets taken somewhere between 9 and 16 goes first overall, what does that say about the strength of the draft?


I haven’t seen anything that has her going #1 and I don’t believe she is a #1 pick, I’ve seen her go as high as #4, and depending on the team, if she would be a fit (like I mentioned before with Phoenix), I could see a team taking her there as she probably won’t be around when they pick in the 2nd round. But unless that is the case I don’t see her being higher than mid 1st round.


Not sure why you would judge her based on past teammates' performances. That's like saying Morgan Tuck should be a superstar since Stewie is... While her game is a lot closer to Burke in style than to Billings, it's still pretty unique. And yeah, lottery is a stretch but mid first round seems totally reasonable. And since lottery is a stretch for just about every player we've been talking about, it's also possible for Onyenwere. If (big if) she's used this time off to develop a more reliable three shot, she could be a really good player at the next level.



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PostPosted: 09/13/20 10:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

2019
WAS 26-8
IND 13-21
DAL 10-24
NYL 10-24
ATL 8-26

2020
WAS* 9-13
DAL 8-14
ATL 7-15
IND 6-16
NYL 2-20

2019+2020
IND 19-37 (Locked up 4th best odds of #1 pick)
DAL 18-38 (Locked up 3rd best odds of #1 pick)
ATL 15-41 (Locked up 2nd best odds of #1 pick)
NYL 12-44 (Locked up best odds of #1 pick)

Lottery team
* WAS first round pick in 2021 owned by DAL in three-team Tina Charles trade.



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PostPosted: 09/13/20 11:04 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
PickledGinger wrote:
This class is so weak that Charli Collier is being championed as the savior of the draft as an early declairer - when she's not even the #1 pick in her draft, if she were to stay.

But on the bright side, assuming Collier and Westbrook stay, here's who I've go for the 2022 Top 10. Y'all. It's pretty good.

Charlie Collier - 6-5 PF - Texas
Elissa Cunane - 6-5 C - NC State
Rhyne Howard - 6-2 SF - Kentucky
Lexie Hull - 6-0 SG - Stanford
Ashley Joens - 6-0 SF - Iowa State
Sika Kone - 6-3 PF - Nigeria
Olivia Nelson-Ododa - 6-5 C - UConn
NaLyssa Smith - 6-2 PF - Baylor
Evina Westbrook - 6-0 SG - UConn
Christyn Williams - 5-11 SG UConn


Anyone else from this list eligible in 2021?

add Egbo, Green and Balogun to the list

Throw in some from this class who might be age eligible but have even more NCAA eligibility than this class but decide to just go pro in these crazy times like Austin or Prince?


Just asking again are there any prominent Juniors besides Ch. Collier who could declare early?

This draft would be much more interesting if Howard or Smith decided to enter. Or of someone like Prince or Austin turned 22 and decided to go pro really early.


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PostPosted: 09/13/20 11:08 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

myrtle wrote:
GEF34 wrote:
root_thing wrote:
GEF34 wrote:

If teams/GMs had to redo those drafts Monique Billings and Kennedy Burke might not fall as low as they did.


Probably true, but it would move them up a few picks -- not all the way to lottery level. Billings went #15 and Burke #22. Let's move them up half a dozen slots to #9 and #16. Multiple people have suggested that Onyenwere should be the #1 overall pick. So, if someone who normally gets taken somewhere between 9 and 16 goes first overall, what does that say about the strength of the draft?


I haven’t seen anything that has her going #1 and I don’t believe she is a #1 pick, I’ve seen her go as high as #4, and depending on the team, if she would be a fit (like I mentioned before with Phoenix), I could see a team taking her there as she probably won’t be around when they pick in the 2nd round. But unless that is the case I don’t see her being higher than mid 1st round.


Not sure why you would judge her based on past teammates' performances. That's like saying Morgan Tuck should be a superstar since Stewie is... While her game is a lot closer to Burke in style than to Billings, it's still pretty unique. And yeah, lottery is a stretch but mid first round seems totally reasonable. And since lottery is a stretch for just about every player we've been talking about, it's also possible for Onyenwere. If (big if) she's used this time off to develop a more reliable three shot, she could be a really good player at the next level.


I don’t know what you are trying to say, I didn’t judge her based on anyone. The only judgement I made regarding Michaela is that she could be a good fit for Phoenix.

In a previous post I mentioned her former UCLA teammates might have been picked higher if the drafts were redone, but even in that post I didn’t compare Michaela to either of them.



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PostPosted: 09/13/20 11:21 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

While we're talking about UCLA products, Cori Close doesn't seem to be able to teach her players that don't already know how to shoot how to do it. She historically has had 3PT specialists that knew how to shoot before coming to UCLA on the team (Kari Korver who now works for the Sparks of course comes to mind), but her program is mainly built on lean undersized quickness & athleticism rather than size or skill. (Here's a look at the team's numbers last year, where they had no real 3PT specialist and it shows.) I love Onyenwere's game, but I'm not holding my breath on her improving her pure shooting numbers and getting her game more perimeter-oriented in her senior season. She's 100% 1st-round material, though - I'd love it if she fell outside of the Top 10. Wink



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PostPosted: 09/13/20 11:50 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

GEF34 wrote:
myrtle wrote:
GEF34 wrote:
root_thing wrote:
GEF34 wrote:

If teams/GMs had to redo those drafts Monique Billings and Kennedy Burke might not fall as low as they did.


Probably true, but it would move them up a few picks -- not all the way to lottery level. Billings went #15 and Burke #22. Let's move them up half a dozen slots to #9 and #16. Multiple people have suggested that Onyenwere should be the #1 overall pick. So, if someone who normally gets taken somewhere between 9 and 16 goes first overall, what does that say about the strength of the draft?


I haven’t seen anything that has her going #1 and I don’t believe she is a #1 pick, I’ve seen her go as high as #4, and depending on the team, if she would be a fit (like I mentioned before with Phoenix), I could see a team taking her there as she probably won’t be around when they pick in the 2nd round. But unless that is the case I don’t see her being higher than mid 1st round.


Not sure why you would judge her based on past teammates' performances. That's like saying Morgan Tuck should be a superstar since Stewie is... While her game is a lot closer to Burke in style than to Billings, it's still pretty unique. And yeah, lottery is a stretch but mid first round seems totally reasonable. And since lottery is a stretch for just about every player we've been talking about, it's also possible for Onyenwere. If (big if) she's used this time off to develop a more reliable three shot, she could be a really good player at the next level.


I don’t know what you are trying to say, I didn’t judge her based on anyone. The only judgement I made regarding Michaela is that she could be a good fit for Phoenix.

In a previous post I mentioned her former UCLA teammates might have been picked higher if the drafts were redone, but even in that post I didn’t compare Michaela to either of them.


I suspect Myrtle didn't read the entire thread. Someone had listed Onyenwere as a possible #1 pick -- not the first to do it either. I then offered my opinion that Onyenwere strikes me as not much better than Billings or Burke. None of the three were/are consistent outside shooters, and all three are heavily reliant on their athletic ability. However, Billings is listed as 4 inches taller, and Burke is both more muscular and has unusually long arms. To that extent, they have an advantage over Onyenwere. So, if a player who doesn't seem significantly better than two former 2nd Round picks is even considered a possible #1 pick, this clearly indicates that the 2021 Draft is a weak one. Obviously, if we have a college season, maybe one or two players will step up and have a great senior year. Or perhaps some juniors will enter early. The scenario can still change, but right now it's not looking good.



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PostPosted: 09/14/20 8:29 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

I read in the college thread that Espinoza-Hunter is skipping her senior year at Miss ST

does that mean she is eligible for this draft? if so where does she rank?


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PostPosted: 09/14/20 9:39 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
I read in the college thread that Espinoza-Hunter is skipping her senior year at Miss ST

does that mean she is eligible for this draft? if so where does she rank?


Last season, she only played 12.2 mpg and averaged 4.6 ppg shooting 36.9/26.2/67.7. So, no chance.



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PostPosted: 09/14/20 9:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

root_thing wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
I read in the college thread that Espinoza-Hunter is skipping her senior year at Miss ST

does that mean she is eligible for this draft? if so where does she rank?


Last season, she only played 12.2 mpg and averaged 4.6 ppg shooting 36.9/26.2/67.7. So, no chance.


It's odd cuz she looked like she was becoming something the year before, averaging 9 PPG on 42% FG and 42% 3PT. She all but fell off a cliff last year, so if she does have a senior season at another school, maybe she'll bounce back.



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PostPosted: 09/15/20 12:46 pm    ::: Reply Reply with quote

J-Spoon wrote:
J-Spoon wrote:
PickledGinger wrote:
This class is so weak that Charli Collier is being championed as the savior of the draft as an early declairer - when she's not even the #1 pick in her draft, if she were to stay.

But on the bright side, assuming Collier and Westbrook stay, here's who I've go for the 2022 Top 10. Y'all. It's pretty good.

Charlie Collier - 6-5 PF - Texas
Elissa Cunane - 6-5 C - NC State
Rhyne Howard - 6-2 SF - Kentucky
Lexie Hull - 6-0 SG - Stanford
Ashley Joens - 6-0 SF - Iowa State
Sika Kone - 6-3 PF - Nigeria
Olivia Nelson-Ododa - 6-5 C - UConn
NaLyssa Smith - 6-2 PF - Baylor
Evina Westbrook - 6-0 SG - UConn
Christyn Williams - 5-11 SG UConn


Anyone else from this list eligible in 2021?

add Egbo, Green and Balogun to the list

Throw in some from this class who might be age eligible but have even more NCAA eligibility than this class but decide to just go pro in these crazy times like Austin or Prince?


Just asking again are there any prominent Juniors besides Ch. Collier who could declare early?

This draft would be much more interesting if Howard or Smith decided to enter. Or of someone like Prince or Austin turned 22 and decided to go pro really early.

Unless they're on path to graduate in three years, neither Howard nor Smith are eligible to declare in 2021. If you can find a birthdate for Player X, and they're American, they need to have been born in 1999 to be eligible to declare for the upcoming draft on age grounds. Otherwise it needs to be four years since they entered the NCAA system, and/or they need to be about to graduate.

Evina Westbrook was eligible to declare this year, so she can definitely declare if she wants to.



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