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| I have little doubt that something happened between Reade and Biden. My guess is that it was something less lurid than Republicans would like but also more problematic than Democrats would be comfortable with. |
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It's very rare for someone to make up a story like this out of whole cloth, let alone stick with it this long. |
UNLESSSSS.... It's a PRESIDENTIAL election cycle, and the Trumpette Campaign folks--Shit Diggers Extraordinaire--might have dug her up, and done some serious courting of this Stormy Daniels-esque character to throw things awry. She? Nothing to lose, maybe some things to gain over a man she detests? Them? Clutching at straws.
I'd agree, *something* may have well happened between her and Joe....but after all the DiBlasio/Daniels/PussyGrabbing press, who (in their logical mind) actually gives a royal shit?
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Stormy Daniels voluntarily had sex with Trump and later blackmailed him and ultimately wanted an even bigger payday from the fame and fortune it would bring a porn star and traveling stripper. Tara Reade was cornered and fingered in the office by Joe Biden, lost her job when she complained about it, and was quite upset when recalling it to a neighbor in 1995. Don’t see the situations as equivalent.
But yes, as it turns out, all that #MeToo stuff by vocal Democrats was just politicized rhetoric or empty virtue signaling. When the guy at the top of their ticket gets accused they don’t give a shit. At least the Republicans are consistent: If it isn’t on film, it never happened. If it is on film then suck it up buttercup because boys will be boys. |
No, the #MeToo movement is currently being co-opted by men with political agendas.
It'll end up hurting women.
Reade has so many holes in her story, and a literal record of fraud. When, at some point, the media sides with Biden - all of a sudden, women shoudn't be believed. They'll equate Reade with Trump's 25 accusers, and then "both men are victims."
It isn't "believe all women no matter what." It is "take women's allegations seriously." As in, don't ASSUME women are lying, which has historically been the status quo.
And Biden, for all of his problems as a candidate, has handled it extremely well. Careful to not call in question the entire movement, and finding specific elements of Reade's story that he can disprove. (IE, allowing the complaints to be released..which..shocking...now Reade says doesn't exist, after repeatedly claiming it did.)
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| Posted: 05/03/20 9:24 pm ::: |
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CNN and MSNBC haven't interviewed Reade and a lot of Democrats on twitter were angry when Chris Hayes of MSNBC covered the matter on a show. At this point I would bet on the press dropping it absent other women making charges.
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| (IE, allowing the complaints to be released..which..shocking...now Reade says doesn't exist, after repeatedly claiming it did.) |
I didn't see Reade say a complaint doesn't exist. I read her say that she didn't use the phrase "sexual harassment" in the complaint but maybe there are two complaints being talked about. She says (in response to the AP articke) that while there is no use of the term of "sexual harassment" it isn't true that her claim did not include examples of sexual harassment. It does not mention it describe the sexual assault she is alleging . And she says that the complaint record would show that Biden's minions were lying when they say they never heard anything and when two of them said they didn't even know her (how big was Biden's office?) But I also saw her say it is in Biden's personal records being held at a university. I think it is naive to think that her complaint would still be in Biden's personal files (which Biden is not authorizing to be opened). Dubya Bush's incriminating records were removed from his National Guard files.
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| Posted: 05/15/20 8:31 pm ::: |
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| ‘Manipulative, deceitful, user’: Tara Reade left a trail of aggrieved acquaintances |
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/15/tara-reade-left-trail-of-aggrieved-acquaintances-260771
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| Wrye and her husband knew Reade as Tara McCabe, the woman who had rented a yurt on their 12-acre California property and tended to the couple’s horses — and her own — for about 10 months beginning in 2017. They were well-acquainted with their former tenant, who frequently knocked on the door of their home seeking emotional support, asking for financial help or forgiveness for late rent payments, which they granted. |
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| Posted: 05/16/20 2:42 pm ::: |
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What 74 former Biden staffers think about Tara Reade’s allegations
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-74-former-biden-staffers-think-about-tara-reades-allegations
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He was not on a list of “creepy” male senators that female staffers told each other to avoid in the elevators on Capitol Hill.
Yet Biden, now the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, was also a toucher, seemingly oblivious to whether physical contact made some women uncomfortable. That behavior has persisted in recent years. |
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So according to what I'm reading here, Biden is innocent of the accusations by Tara Reade because almost everyone in her past who was cherry-picked for an interview thinks that she's a terrible person and a manipulative liar, and not due to any proof that the incident never happened. Does that about sum it up?
None of those stories prove guilt or innocence of any sort. Just opinions from people who weren't there during the alleged incident. So just a bunch of politically motivated hit pieces.
I seem to remember a discussion a couple years back about the Kavanaugh nomination here with completely identical circumstances. We had a woman with a questionable past that got up there and ended every sentence as if it were a question while taking the stand (then never spoke like that again in her life) with an even less believable story than this one. She was followed by another woman with an even more suspicious background along with her shitbag attorney (who ended up going to prison for other crimes), and when she came forward with her made-up story, many people over here told me that Kavanaugh is a rapist, in spite of the fact that these women couldn't even corroborate their lies with their own witnesses.
It's not to remember Alyssa Milano's involvement during the Kavanaugh hearings. We were to believe women. Remember that? Has anyone checked out HER Twitter account during this Tara Reade debacle? It's been good for some serious entertainment AND hypocrisy that's for sure.
Funny how we're willing to kill the #MeToo movement on the spot because all of a sudden it's not politically convenient any more. Perhaps someone can explain to me how Kavanaugh was guilty of rape with far less believable accusations according to some people here while Biden is as pure as the wind-driven snow.
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